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    It is rare to willingly get rid of one of the most dominant pitchers in MLB, who also won a Cy Young Award two seasons ago. However, the Milwaukee Brewers have to consider the option of trading Corbin Burnes now to maximize the return package of talent, especially if they aren't going to offer the right-hander a long-term contract.

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    GM Matt Arnold will have some tough decisions in the coming months and years, but nothing is more significant than determining how to handle Corbin Burnes' time with the Milwaukee Brewers. That could also be affected by what the Brewers decide to do with Brandon Woodruff. It isn't easy to see them keeping both or offering long-term deals before they become free agents in two seasons. Could they trade both? That would be a gamble, too. But let's look squarely at Burnes and his trade candidacy.

    The 2021 NL Cy Young has been phenomenal since the start of the 2020 season, which means a big payday is on the horizon. Some people need to appreciate how ridiculous Burnes has been in the last three years and how it will impact his salary.

    Corbin Burnes ranks first among MLB starters in these categories since 2020:

    • 2.60 ERA
    • 2.36 FIP
    • 0.96 WHIP
    • 11.83 K/9
    • 33.3 K% 
    • 27.1 K-BB%
    • 7.86 WPA (Win Probability Added)
    • 14.3 fWAR (FanGraphs' Wins Above Replacement)

    Burnes makes a strong case for being the best pitcher in baseball right now. With two years of arbitration remaining, he would become a free agent after the 2024 season if he doesn't sign a contract extension. Those numbers for a starter who would hit free agency at 30 with mostly good health could generate a record contract. Burnes also tossed more than 200 innings last season while leading the NL with 243 strikeouts, meaning he isn't likely to decline soon. A quick look at recent starting pitcher contracts could legitimately net Burnes a contract for anywhere between five and eight years from $175-$275 million if a big market team is determined to land him. Check out the list below from Spotrac.com and you can see the huge deals for recent starting pitchers. 

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    Realistically, the Brewers are unlikely to invest that much in one player, especially with the way the Christian Yelich deal has gone thus far. Pitchers also carry more injury risk. If the organization doesn't want to lose Burnes to free agency without getting anything in return, this offseason could net them the most crucial haul for future success. The question is, can you get fair value back in a trade?

    For the Brewers to jettison Burnes elsewhere, they need at least a couple of players at the beginning of their MLB careers or on the cusp. Getting two players back who are under team control for five or six years and are ready to contribute now is essential to keep the club from dipping in performance. Then Milwaukee would need a couple of higher-level prospects with significant potential. Ideally, they're getting at least two starting pitchers in the deal and one impact bat. People might argue the return should include a top-20 MLB prospect and three more of the team's best 10 minor leaguers, but that can be subjective.

    It's going to come down to the right fit for a club that lacks top-tier starting pitching and has the means to sign Burns to a long-term contract. It would help if you also had a team that feels comfortable offensively or is willing to add offense via free agency. They would then feel good about swapping out a solid bat (and the other pieces) for a true ace that puts them over the top. The first two clubs that come to mind as examples are the Texas Rangers and Baltimore Orioles. Both teams want to push their franchises forward, and their farm systems were ranked sixth and first this past August.

    Texas has already shown a willingness to pay big bucks by giving Corey Seager and Marcus Semien mega-deals last offseason. The Rangers have six prospects in MLB Pipeline's top 100, including third baseman Josh Jung (#36) and right-handed pitchers Jack Leiter (#45), Owen White (#59), and Brock Porter (#89). Getting Jung and two of those hurlers gets them in the ballpark, then you figure out the fourth player. Texas finished fifth in runs scored (4.36 R/G) in the AL last season but 12th in ERA (4.22), so they would make a considerable jump up with Burnes. Rangers' fans in September were already pining for a rotation with Burnes at the top.

    As for the Orioles, they were only 10th in the AL in runs scored (4.16), although they would have an entire season of catcher Adley Rutschman and shortstop Gunnar Henderson to increase production in 2023 and beyond. Baltimore also has money to burn in free agency to acquire a big hitter for the middle of its lineup. Meanwhile, the O's 3.97 ERA ranked ninth in the AL; however, they had a 4.35 starting pitching ERA. They could use a stud arm up front to lead their young hurlers.

    Baltimore also has six of MLB's top-100 prospects, though Henderson (#2), right-handed pitcher Grayson Rodriguez (#4), and this year's number one overall draft pick, Jackson Holliday, are probably off limits. That leaves outfielder Colton Cowser (#40), infielder Jordan Westburg (#76), and left-handed pitcher DL Hall (#87) in play. Of course, Baltimore could also entice the Brewers with a Major Leaguer. Could outfielders Cedric Mullins or Anthony Santander be moved to acquire a starter like Burnes? It's possible because of the Orioles loaded farm system and available cash.

    No matter who the Brewers get in return for a potential Burnes trade, many in the fanbase will be upset - and there's nothing wrong with that. Unfortunately, moving a player of Burnes' caliber at the right time for the best collection of young talent possible is often the ideal long-term option for continued, sustainable success.

    The most intriguing question around a Burnes trade might be, when is the best time to make it happen? Should the Brewers see how 2023 starts and trade him at the mid-season deadline if the club is floundering? It gives you another shot at the playoffs with your two aces (assuming Woodruff is still with the club). Do you wait until next offseason when he has just one year left on the contract and has slightly less value? You also risk injury or ineffectiveness curtailing his worth. That potential for injury and a possible dip in value is why many believe that if the Milwaukee Brewers are going to trade Corbin Burnes, this offseason is the time to strike. What do you think about dealing Burnes away, and who should they try to get back?

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    22 minutes ago, UpandIn said:

    And just 5 minutes ago you were arguing if the 2021 season was last season or two seasons ago. 

    Seems to me you're enjoy arguing pointless issues while willfully ignoring the very clear point being made and in doing so, sidetrack a discussion. 

    While acknowledging that much of the world is Gray, I cherish and defend those things which are black and white.

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    53 minutes ago, UpandIn said:

    It really is though. What other pitcher has gotten 9 years and 300M?

    In fact, I don't think a pitcher has gotten 7 in the last couple years. 

    They're usually 5 or 6 years now. 

    And I do not agree Burnes is the best pitcher in baseball. deGrom is the best pitcher in baseball and I don't think it's particularly close. After him there are a number of pitchers you could argue are better than Burnes(Wheeler being one, Scherzer...Verlander among them). 

    Sure. But if we're talking about best starting pitcher close to free agency, deGrom hasn't pitched even 100 innings in three years.

    Burnes pitched nearly as many innings in 2022 (202) as deGrom has in the past three seasons combined (224).

    If I’m pushing all the chips to the middle of the table, I’m betting on Burnes. 

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    53 minutes ago, UpandIn said:

    It really is though. What other pitcher has gotten 9 years and 300M?

    In fact, I don't think a pitcher has gotten 7 in the last couple years. 

    They're usually 5 or 6 years now. 

    And I do not agree Burnes is the best pitcher in baseball. deGrom is the best pitcher in baseball and I don't think it's particularly close. After him there are a number of pitchers you could argue are better than Burnes(Wheeler being one, Scherzer...Verlander among them). 

    Sure. But if we're talking about best starting pitcher close to free agency, deGrom hasn't pitched even 100 innings in three years.

    Burnes pitched nearly as many innings in 2022 (202) as deGrom has in the past three seasons combined (224).

    If I’m pushing all the chips to the middle of the table, I’m betting on Burnes. 

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    47 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

    Sure. But if we're talking about best starting pitcher close to free agency, deGrom hasn't pitched even 100 innings in three years.

    Burnes pitched nearly as many innings in 2022 (202) as deGrom has in the past three seasons combined (224).

    If I’m pushing all the chips to the middle of the table, I’m betting on Burnes. 

    Well...one of those years was 2020, so that's really not meaningful. 

    He's Jacob deGrom. You might take him over Burnes, but he's healthy...and I suspect you'd be in the overwhelming minority on that. 

    I love Burnes. He's great. deGrom is in a league of his own however. 

    It's 11.4 WAR vs 8.5 WAR since 2020...and again, deGrom WAS injured much of that time. 

    The other has been in his prime and won a Cy Young. That in and of itself is insane. deGrom is all the way back, averaging 99 MPH on his FB again. There's just no comp for him. If he hadn't come back or was still having shoulder issues, absolutely, the risk would be too great. But he came back from a stress fracture in his shoulder and was as dominant as ever. 

    deGrom has allowed 1 or fewer run in almost HALF of his starts...for his entire career. That is...incomprehensible. 

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    47 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

    Sure. But if we're talking about best starting pitcher close to free agency, deGrom hasn't pitched even 100 innings in three years.

    Burnes pitched nearly as many innings in 2022 (202) as deGrom has in the past three seasons combined (224).

    If I’m pushing all the chips to the middle of the table, I’m betting on Burnes. 

    Well...one of those years was 2020, so that's really not meaningful. 

    He's Jacob deGrom. You might take him over Burnes, but he's healthy...and I suspect you'd be in the overwhelming minority on that. 

    I love Burnes. He's great. deGrom is in a league of his own however. 

    It's 11.4 WAR vs 8.5 WAR since 2020...and again, deGrom WAS injured much of that time. 

    The other has been in his prime and won a Cy Young. That in and of itself is insane. deGrom is all the way back, averaging 99 MPH on his FB again. There's just no comp for him. If he hadn't come back or was still having shoulder issues, absolutely, the risk would be too great. But he came back from a stress fracture in his shoulder and was as dominant as ever. 

    deGrom has allowed 1 or fewer run in almost HALF of his starts...for his entire career. That is...incomprehensible. 

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    I don’t see Burnes going anywhere before 2023 mid-season. It gives the Brewers a chance to feel out their competitiveness and ability to compete for the post season and I also think you get more for players in trades when other teams have the need in that moment versus the off-season when there’s no wins and losses on the board. 
    the other questions is really for Brewers management and that is do they think they can compete for a World Series in the  next 2 seasons and if not then they need to make a deal

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    I don’t see Burnes going anywhere before 2023 mid-season. It gives the Brewers a chance to feel out their competitiveness and ability to compete for the post season and I also think you get more for players in trades when other teams have the need in that moment versus the off-season when there’s no wins and losses on the board. 
    the other questions is really for Brewers management and that is do they think they can compete for a World Series in the  next 2 seasons and if not then they need to make a deal

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    52 minutes ago, BrewFan130 said:

    I don’t see Burnes going anywhere before 2023 mid-season. It gives the Brewers a chance to feel out their competitiveness and ability to compete for the post season and I also think you get more for players in trades when other teams have the need in that moment versus the off-season when there’s no wins and losses on the board. 
    the other questions is really for Brewers management and that is do they think they can compete for a World Series in the  next 2 seasons and if not then they need to make a deal

    It's not logical...getting more value when you have 1.5 years of team control vs 2, but I agree with you. 

    Take...any number of teams who've been in long droughts or desperately want to win a WS. Maybe the Angels jump out to a 60-40 start next year. Ohtani is a pending FA they're trying to re-sign, they've hit on a bunch of prospects who are having big years, or the Rangers after their Fa splurge find themselves in the same position with some of those promising young arms working their way up, plus the teams that come into the season with a strong rotation that loses a key arm due to injury...Houston, LAD, NYY, Toronto(particularly the later). 

    That's when I could see an overpay. 

    Conversely, if Sal Frelick comes up and he's slashing .300/.380/.430 and Yelich is back to .280./.370./500  without the shift, Turang...not lighting the world on fire, but he's getting on base. .270/.340;/.300 while paying elite defense at what'll likely be 2B and we're up 4-5 games, Ashby, Peralta, Lauer throwing the ball well...then it's hard to justify a trade. 

    This team could be a legitimate WS contender...it could be a middling playoff caliber team. There's no doubt that you can win no matter what if you get in, but...there's a difference between being a team with an elite pitching staff, a good lineup with table setters, middle of the order hitters and then flawed bottom of the order hitters like the Dodgers...and a team like the Phillies. Either can win with these short series, the fluky nature of baseball, but are you better 24 years of top ~100 prospects and maybe a couple of true difference makers on that distinction? I think they know they CAN win a WS. But again, is it worth it to go for it when you need to upset 3-4 teams to win it or if you're one of the favorites. 

     

    Anyway, good post, I agree. 

     

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    52 minutes ago, BrewFan130 said:

    I don’t see Burnes going anywhere before 2023 mid-season. It gives the Brewers a chance to feel out their competitiveness and ability to compete for the post season and I also think you get more for players in trades when other teams have the need in that moment versus the off-season when there’s no wins and losses on the board. 
    the other questions is really for Brewers management and that is do they think they can compete for a World Series in the  next 2 seasons and if not then they need to make a deal

    It's not logical...getting more value when you have 1.5 years of team control vs 2, but I agree with you. 

    Take...any number of teams who've been in long droughts or desperately want to win a WS. Maybe the Angels jump out to a 60-40 start next year. Ohtani is a pending FA they're trying to re-sign, they've hit on a bunch of prospects who are having big years, or the Rangers after their Fa splurge find themselves in the same position with some of those promising young arms working their way up, plus the teams that come into the season with a strong rotation that loses a key arm due to injury...Houston, LAD, NYY, Toronto(particularly the later). 

    That's when I could see an overpay. 

    Conversely, if Sal Frelick comes up and he's slashing .300/.380/.430 and Yelich is back to .280./.370./500  without the shift, Turang...not lighting the world on fire, but he's getting on base. .270/.340;/.300 while paying elite defense at what'll likely be 2B and we're up 4-5 games, Ashby, Peralta, Lauer throwing the ball well...then it's hard to justify a trade. 

    This team could be a legitimate WS contender...it could be a middling playoff caliber team. There's no doubt that you can win no matter what if you get in, but...there's a difference between being a team with an elite pitching staff, a good lineup with table setters, middle of the order hitters and then flawed bottom of the order hitters like the Dodgers...and a team like the Phillies. Either can win with these short series, the fluky nature of baseball, but are you better 24 years of top ~100 prospects and maybe a couple of true difference makers on that distinction? I think they know they CAN win a WS. But again, is it worth it to go for it when you need to upset 3-4 teams to win it or if you're one of the favorites. 

     

    Anyway, good post, I agree. 

     

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    10 hours ago, UpandIn said:

    Well...one of those years was 2020, so that's really not meaningful. 

    He's Jacob deGrom. You might take him over Burnes, but he's healthy...and I suspect you'd be in the overwhelming minority on that. 

    I love Burnes. He's great. deGrom is in a league of his own however. 

    It's 11.4 WAR vs 8.5 WAR since 2020...and again, deGrom WAS injured much of that time. 

    The other has been in his prime and won a Cy Young. That in and of itself is insane. deGrom is all the way back, averaging 99 MPH on his FB again. There's just no comp for him. If he hadn't come back or was still having shoulder issues, absolutely, the risk would be too great. But he came back from a stress fracture in his shoulder and was as dominant as ever. 

    deGrom has allowed 1 or fewer run in almost HALF of his starts...for his entire career. That is...incomprehensible. 

    deGrom is amazing, no doubt about it. But I just cannot ignore his health issues. Anyone who throws that hard is really concerning as they age into their 30s. I would be terrified to sign deGrom to a long term deal.

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    10 hours ago, UpandIn said:

    Well...one of those years was 2020, so that's really not meaningful. 

    He's Jacob deGrom. You might take him over Burnes, but he's healthy...and I suspect you'd be in the overwhelming minority on that. 

    I love Burnes. He's great. deGrom is in a league of his own however. 

    It's 11.4 WAR vs 8.5 WAR since 2020...and again, deGrom WAS injured much of that time. 

    The other has been in his prime and won a Cy Young. That in and of itself is insane. deGrom is all the way back, averaging 99 MPH on his FB again. There's just no comp for him. If he hadn't come back or was still having shoulder issues, absolutely, the risk would be too great. But he came back from a stress fracture in his shoulder and was as dominant as ever. 

    deGrom has allowed 1 or fewer run in almost HALF of his starts...for his entire career. That is...incomprehensible. 

    deGrom is amazing, no doubt about it. But I just cannot ignore his health issues. Anyone who throws that hard is really concerning as they age into their 30s. I would be terrified to sign deGrom to a long term deal.

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    I think a good comp to this conservation is Byron Buxton. When he’s on the field and healthy, he’s probably the best CF in baseball. The problem is he’s on the field healthy so rarely that no one can really call him that.

    The same applies to the past two seasons of deGrom and he’s not getting younger. 

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    I think a good comp to this conservation is Byron Buxton. When he’s on the field and healthy, he’s probably the best CF in baseball. The problem is he’s on the field healthy so rarely that no one can really call him that.

    The same applies to the past two seasons of deGrom and he’s not getting younger. 

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    14 hours ago, Robocaller said:

    the difference is I acknowledge when I'm wrong.

     

    How many innings did Mickey Lolich pitch in 1971?

    Was it over 370 innings?

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    14 hours ago, Robocaller said:

    the difference is I acknowledge when I'm wrong.

     

    How many innings did Mickey Lolich pitch in 1971?

    Was it over 370 innings?

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    36 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

    I think a good comp to this conservation is Byron Buxton. When he’s on the field and healthy, he’s probably the best CF in baseball. The problem is he’s on the field healthy so rarely that no one can really call him that.

    The same applies to the past two seasons of deGrom and he’s not getting younger. 

    I don't think that's a good comp at all. I think Mike Trout is a better comp. 

    When he's healthy and on the field, he's one of the handful of best to ever do it. 

    He's healthy...and nobody is getting any younger, but deGrom did get stronger as the season went on. 

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    36 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

    I think a good comp to this conservation is Byron Buxton. When he’s on the field and healthy, he’s probably the best CF in baseball. The problem is he’s on the field healthy so rarely that no one can really call him that.

    The same applies to the past two seasons of deGrom and he’s not getting younger. 

    I don't think that's a good comp at all. I think Mike Trout is a better comp. 

    When he's healthy and on the field, he's one of the handful of best to ever do it. 

    He's healthy...and nobody is getting any younger, but deGrom did get stronger as the season went on. 

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    1 hour ago, UpandIn said:

    I don't think that's a good comp at all. I think Mike Trout is a better comp. 

    When he's healthy and on the field, he's one of the handful of best to ever do it. 

    He's healthy...and nobody is getting any younger, but deGrom did get stronger as the season went on. 

    Mike Trout is also a fine comp. But realize Buxton was “healthy” for exactly zero games this season and posted an fWAR of 4.0 in 92 games while DHing every third day because he could barely walk. As someone who has watched Buxton a lot, he’s prime Trout-level good when he’s healthy, he’s just never healthy.

    Anyway, we’re kinda derailing here. We disagree on this and that’s fine. Let’s move on to how else you’re wrong instead of containing this derailment. ?

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    1 hour ago, UpandIn said:

    I don't think that's a good comp at all. I think Mike Trout is a better comp. 

    When he's healthy and on the field, he's one of the handful of best to ever do it. 

    He's healthy...and nobody is getting any younger, but deGrom did get stronger as the season went on. 

    Mike Trout is also a fine comp. But realize Buxton was “healthy” for exactly zero games this season and posted an fWAR of 4.0 in 92 games while DHing every third day because he could barely walk. As someone who has watched Buxton a lot, he’s prime Trout-level good when he’s healthy, he’s just never healthy.

    Anyway, we’re kinda derailing here. We disagree on this and that’s fine. Let’s move on to how else you’re wrong instead of containing this derailment. ?

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    Just now, Brock Beauchamp said:

    Mike Trout is also a fine comp. But realize Buxton was “healthy” for exactly zero games this season and posted an fWAR of 4.0 in 92 games while DHing every third day because he could barely walk. As someone who has watched Buxton a lot, he’s prime Trout-level good when he’s healthy, he’s just never healthy. 

    Ok, I don't wanna nitpick this too much...because I get your point and Buxton is a FREAK talent when healthy, but I'm looking at it more like the flaws in their game and their peak and impact on their game. 

    deGrom is pretty much the perfect pitcher when he's healthy...kinda like Trout is just about the perfect player when HE'S healthy. And remember, he has a degenerative back problem that's been ailing him. 

    And we've never seen a full season of Buxton. We've seen several full seasons from deGrom, including back to back Cy Young's and one of the most dominant seasons in recent memory. 

    Buxton is a guy who's value comes largely from his defense and...you can get him out. I wouldn't be surprised to see Buxton break out and have a monster, MVP type season, but I'm not really counting on it. 

    deGrom is the odds on favorite to win the Cy Young next year regardless what league he ends up in.

     

    BTW, the athletic came out with their projected salarires(it was Bowden, so...take it with the appropriate grain of salt, but I do think he's pretty accurate here). 

    deGrom NYY-2/90M Player Option after Yr 1
    Verlander 3/135(I swear, I'm not Jim Bowden...really, please believe me). 
    Rodon was...5 for 144 IIRC. 
    Edwin Diaz 4/65(that's insanely low IMO...I think he ends up at ~100M...which is an overpay). 
    Kodai Senga 3/72
    That's seems high to me. No posting fee, so that's good. But you're also taking quite a bit of risk. But he has ELECTRIC stuff. 
    Eovaldi 4/90

    Chris Bassitt 4/74
    Taillon -4/70
    Zach Efflin 3/36


    Now...hypothetically, lets say we traded both Woody and Burnes. 
    I'd be out on Rodon because...why spend that money when you could have just signed one of those two(though you would get massive value back in prospects). 
    That's actually a pretty reasonable price for Rodon, just...don't see the point.

    The two guys who I think Bowden is overestimating are Kodai Senga. 

    I see him at more a 5 years @20M per with a PO after the 3rd or4th year. THAT I'd consider. It'd be a risk, but...I think a justified one. 
    And then Nathan Eovaldi...but NOT at 4/90. I see him back in Boston at like 2/44 similar to Rodon with a TO for 30M.

    But the one that makes the most sense is Zach Efflin. Gets a lot of GBs. Whichever order we roll out our IF, it should be good defensively on the IF. He induces soft contact. He can be a swing man or a late inning reliever. Could allow the Brewers to use their pitchers a bit more freely. 
    I'd prefer we go with more high end relievers like Suarez and Montero and spend just a bit more, but Efflin has some appeal to my mind. 

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    Just now, Brock Beauchamp said:

    Mike Trout is also a fine comp. But realize Buxton was “healthy” for exactly zero games this season and posted an fWAR of 4.0 in 92 games while DHing every third day because he could barely walk. As someone who has watched Buxton a lot, he’s prime Trout-level good when he’s healthy, he’s just never healthy. 

    Ok, I don't wanna nitpick this too much...because I get your point and Buxton is a FREAK talent when healthy, but I'm looking at it more like the flaws in their game and their peak and impact on their game. 

    deGrom is pretty much the perfect pitcher when he's healthy...kinda like Trout is just about the perfect player when HE'S healthy. And remember, he has a degenerative back problem that's been ailing him. 

    And we've never seen a full season of Buxton. We've seen several full seasons from deGrom, including back to back Cy Young's and one of the most dominant seasons in recent memory. 

    Buxton is a guy who's value comes largely from his defense and...you can get him out. I wouldn't be surprised to see Buxton break out and have a monster, MVP type season, but I'm not really counting on it. 

    deGrom is the odds on favorite to win the Cy Young next year regardless what league he ends up in.

     

    BTW, the athletic came out with their projected salarires(it was Bowden, so...take it with the appropriate grain of salt, but I do think he's pretty accurate here). 

    deGrom NYY-2/90M Player Option after Yr 1
    Verlander 3/135(I swear, I'm not Jim Bowden...really, please believe me). 
    Rodon was...5 for 144 IIRC. 
    Edwin Diaz 4/65(that's insanely low IMO...I think he ends up at ~100M...which is an overpay). 
    Kodai Senga 3/72
    That's seems high to me. No posting fee, so that's good. But you're also taking quite a bit of risk. But he has ELECTRIC stuff. 
    Eovaldi 4/90

    Chris Bassitt 4/74
    Taillon -4/70
    Zach Efflin 3/36


    Now...hypothetically, lets say we traded both Woody and Burnes. 
    I'd be out on Rodon because...why spend that money when you could have just signed one of those two(though you would get massive value back in prospects). 
    That's actually a pretty reasonable price for Rodon, just...don't see the point.

    The two guys who I think Bowden is overestimating are Kodai Senga. 

    I see him at more a 5 years @20M per with a PO after the 3rd or4th year. THAT I'd consider. It'd be a risk, but...I think a justified one. 
    And then Nathan Eovaldi...but NOT at 4/90. I see him back in Boston at like 2/44 similar to Rodon with a TO for 30M.

    But the one that makes the most sense is Zach Efflin. Gets a lot of GBs. Whichever order we roll out our IF, it should be good defensively on the IF. He induces soft contact. He can be a swing man or a late inning reliever. Could allow the Brewers to use their pitchers a bit more freely. 
    I'd prefer we go with more high end relievers like Suarez and Montero and spend just a bit more, but Efflin has some appeal to my mind. 

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    21 hours ago, Robocaller said:

    Henderson has more trade value by himself than Burnes does (BTV). 

    That is why overvaluing prospects isn’t the best way to build a roster. I seriously doubt that Henderson will be a top 10 MLB shortstop in the next 6 years.

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    21 hours ago, Robocaller said:

    Henderson has more trade value by himself than Burnes does (BTV). 

    That is why overvaluing prospects isn’t the best way to build a roster. I seriously doubt that Henderson will be a top 10 MLB shortstop in the next 6 years.

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    1 hour ago, UpandIn said:

    How many innings did Mickey Lolich pitch in 1971?

    Was it over 370 innings?

    I had looked at a list of guys who led innings pitched. Either I missed that, or the list I looked at was inaccurate.

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    1 hour ago, UpandIn said:

    How many innings did Mickey Lolich pitch in 1971?

    Was it over 370 innings?

    I had looked at a list of guys who led innings pitched. Either I missed that, or the list I looked at was inaccurate.

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