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  • Do the Brewers Need to Trade Christian Yelich?


    Seth Stohs

    If we are to believe that the Brewers intend to build around Corbin Burnes and Brandon Woodruff, and they want to extend Willy Adames, and they want to do so within a realistic budget, the team may have to trade Christian Yelich. 

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    According to the immensely valuable Cot's Contract, the Brewers' Opening Day, 26-man payroll was a team-high $131,930,160, the 19th-highest in baseball. If we are to assume that Mark Attanasio has directed new President of Baseball Operations Matt Arnold to keep payroll approximately the same, they will need to get creative. 

    According to MLB Trade Rumors, Corbin Burnes and Brandon Woodruff are projected to make $11.4 million and $11.0 million, respectively. Brewers MVP Willy Adames is projected to get a bump to $9.2 million. Recently, we projected what a long-term contract with the two aces (Burnes, Woodruff) might look like. Summary... it's going to be a lot. If Willy Adames was a free agent, he would likely get a contract in the same price range as what Dansby Swanson might get this offseason.

    The team tendered Hunter Renfroe and then traded him to the Angels for three pitchers rather than pay him about $11 million as well. 

    The Yelich Contract
    When the Brewers acquired Christian Yelich from the Marlins before the 2018 season, he was in the middle of a seven-year, $49.57 million deal. However, right before the 2020 season, the Brewers and Yelich agreed to replace the final two seasons of that deal with a new nine-year, $215 million deal that includes an option that could take the contract through the 2029 season. There are six years and $156 million remaining on the deal, plus the option. 

    As has been pointed out in the Comments below, Yelich was also given full no-trade protection. Of course, that only means that he would have to OK any trade, not that he is untradeable, but it is another factor making it a difficult situation. 

    The Yelich Production 
    Yelich came to the Brewers and in his first season (2018), he won the National League MVP when he hit .326/.402/.598 (1.000) with 34 doubles, seven triples, 36 home runs, and 110 RBI. He came back in 2019 and was even better (but he finished 2nd in MVP voting). He hit .329/.429/.671 (1.100) with 29 doubles, three triples, 44 homers, and 97 RBI. Over those seasons, he stole 52 bases and was caught just six times. 

    And then, almost inexplicably, his production plummeted.  In the pandemic-shortened 2020 season, it's understandable because of the smaller sample size. He hit just .205/.356/.430 (.786) with seven doubles and 12 homers. Great on-base skills, but very low average. However, in 2021, things actually got worse. He hit .248/.362/.373 (.736) with 19 doubles and just nine home runs. In twice as many games, he hit three fewer homers than the previous year. Where did the power go? 

    2022 was Yelich's age-30 season. He was able to play in 154 games and was a Gold Glove finalist. However, he hit .252/.355/.383 (.738) with 25 doubles and 14 homers. Three consecutive seasons with reduced power has become a theme, a trend... the new normal? 

    Replacing Yelich 
    Losing both corner outfield starters would seem difficult to replace, and that's fair. Tyrone Taylor will likely return. Garrett Mitchell came up in late August and had a solid month. He was named Best Rookie by Brewer Fanatic (video). In 28 games, he hit .311/.373/.459 (.832) with three doubles, two homers, nine RBI, and eight stolen bases (without being caught). 

    Fellow Top 5 Brewers prospects, outfielders Sal Frelick and Joey Wiemer both finished their seasons with two months at Triple-A Nashville.

    Frelick was the team's top draft pick in 2021 (15th overall) from Boston College. He began the season at High-A Wisconsin where he posted an .847 OPS. He moved up to Double-A Biloxi and in 52 games, he hit .317/.380/.464 (.844) with 12 doubles, three triples, and five home runs. Then he finished his season with 46 games in Nashville where he hit .365/.435/.508 (.943) with 11 doubles, two triples and four homers. Combined, he had 24 steals in 32 attempts. He was named Brewer Fanatic's Minor League Hitter of the Year

    Wiemer was the Brewers fourth-round pick in 2020 from Cincinnati. He began the 2022 season at Biloxi. After a huge start, he struggled, but in 84 games, he hit .243/.321/.440 (.761) with 19 doubles, 15 homers and 47 RBI. He also had 25 stolen bases in 26 attempts. He finished the season with Nashville and in 43 games, he hit .287/.368/.520 (.888) with 15 doubles, six homers and 30 RBI. He was 6-for-8 in steal attempts. (Brewers Spotlight with Joey Wiemer: Part 1, Part 2, Part 3

    Wiemer will turn 24 before the 2023 season, and Frelick will turn 23 shortly after the season begins. Both are good outfielders with strong arms. Speaking of good outfielders, Jackson Chourio was named a Rawlings minor-league Gold Glove winner for his work in center field in 2022. 

    Chourio, who won't turn 19 until after the 2023 season begins, started his season in Extended Spring Training. Less than a month into the season, he was promoted to Low-A Carolina. In 62 games, he hit .324/.373/.600 (.973) with 23 doubles, five triples, and 12 home runs. He moved up to High-A Wisconsin and played in 31 games. He hit .252/.317/.488 (.805) with six doubles and eight homers. He even ended the season by getting a week (six games) with Double-A Biloxi. He had just two hits in 23 at-bats (.087), but one was a double. He was 16-for-20 in stolen base attempts. 

    Chourio certainly isn't ready to join the Brewers quite yet, but at this stage, it's hard to put too many limitations on what the top prospect can do by the end of the 2023 season. Frelick and Wiemer are at least close to being ready to join Mitchell in the Brewers outfield. Will they be able to match the production of Yelich and Renfroe? Probably not, but it may be close. The defense in the outfield would certainly be strong. 

    As important, at least in this conversation and discussion, those three outfield spots would all cost the league minimum or slightly more than it for 2023, 2024, and 2025 seasons before arbitration would hit. That is significant to a team trying to lock up their two aces and potentially their franchise shortstop. 

    A quick glance at the Brewer Fanatic End-of-Season Prospect Rankings show: 

    1. Jackson Chourio
    2. Sal Frelick
    3. Joey Wiemer
    4. Garrett Mitchell 

    The Return for Yelich 
    This is where things kind of get difficult. Would any team be interested in a 30-year-old former MVP who hasn't hit for average or power the past three seasons, but at least does have a great eye at the plate and solid defense, but is owed another $156 over the next six years?

    I can't imagine that any team would be interested in acquiring Yelich's contract in a straight trade. If they did, the return might be less than the team received for Hunter Renfroe last week. If the Brewers are willing to eat a large chunk of the remaining contract, maybe up to $40-50 million, they might receive a decent prospect in return. It's also possible any team acquiring Yelich would insist that the Brewers take on a contract or two that they don't want. That's the give-and-take, the negotiations that would make such a deal really difficult to predict or even imagine. 

    What's Going to Happen?
    Alright, I intentionally wrote the above without having a definitive answer for how this situation could or even should play out. Here is where the discussions and conversations really begin. 

    The reality is that Christian Yelich is not a bad player. He is a solid contributor to a big-league team. He plays good defense. He is solid near the top of the order because he does have good on-base skills. He is capable of hitting doubles and the occasional homer. He runs the bases well. He plays solid defense in left field. 

    The 'problem' is that after arguably being grossly underpaid during the first seven seasons of his big-league career, he has been a big overpaid the past three seasons. FanGraphs says that he was worth 2.3 fWAR in 2022, or about $18.1 million. In 2021, he was at 1.6 fWAR, or $12 million. If I'm a team that is interested in a good player but maybe would prefer to only pay him about $16 million per year, the Brewers might have to throw in about $60 million in a potential trade. 

    I think Matt Arnold and his staff should, and certainly will, have some initial conversations with teams about Yelich just to gauge interest and maybe even get some sense of what a trade might look like. It is hard to imagine that something can get done this offseason. If it can be, then Arnold deserves another promotion and raise. 

    And I don't think that it is necessarily a bad thing to have Christian Yelich and his contract return in 2023. First, he will still be just 31 and he can do a lot of good things on the field. In addition, the three outfield prospects (plus the very young Mitchell) are not necessarily ready to jump into the team's lineup on opening day. Having the stability of the generally-healthy Yelich at the top of the order and in left field can be a positive and allow the youngsters a little more time to develop. 

    In addition, even if Woodruff, Burnes, and Adames all stick around and get pay bumps via arbitration or contract extension, their 2023 numbers won't be as big as they will certainly be in 2024 and beyond. And so they can absorb Yelich's contract and still maintain a reasonable budget and have a competitive team in 2023. In addition, just because we may want the Brewers to reach long-term agreements to keep The Big Three around for a long time does not mean that they will be able to do that. The players may want to experience free agency, or their contract demands might be too much. Those decisions may also determine whether or not the Brewers decide to trade Kolten Wong, or even Eric Lauer

    So I would conclude by saying that the Brewers should have a dialogue with other organizations regarding Yelich, but they shouldn't feel like it is mandatory to do this offseason. If they can, and it helps them lock up their aces, great. If not, they still have the talent to make another run in 2023. 

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    Yeli went from a 1.2 to 2.7 WAR in 2022. My guess is that almost all of that is after he took over leadoff. I feel like there are way to many people making it sound like Yeli was a heaping pile of trash. Yes, he probably will never be a 7 WAR player again and worth the $26 mill per year. He is still an average-ish defense left feilder with speed and maybe a little power can come back (he did hit one 499 ft hr last year). To say that contract is worse (or could be worse) than Chris Davis is a stretch. I don't think anyone would be surprised if he hits .280 with the shift off. Yeli will be an above average player for at least 3 years and if he DH's he will be at least an average player for those 6 years.

    That being said it would be nice to trade him and be able to resign some of our stars. I wouldn't add him to a Woody/Burnes trade and lessen those pitchers value. Anthony Rendon would have been the only bad deal I would have considered and now that they have Renfroe so they don't need an OF. If the Nats were better Corbin or Stras could make sense (especially if Stras gets healthy) but with the Nats rebuilding that won't happen. Eventually (maybe 2 years) someone like Trevor Story might work. 

     

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    @Robocaller hit the nail on the head. In order to trade Yelich, we'd have to do what the Reds did in getting rid of Suarez, which is add a good player into the deal to offset Yelich's negative value. 

    Unfortunately, his deal relative to his production is so bad that even Burnes might not be enough to offset it. I know some people don't like baseballtradevalues.com, but they have Yelich at -119.3, with Burnes at 78.3. Whoever took the deal would get Burnes for two seasons, but would be stuck with the Yelich deal for years. By BTV's math, we'd need to trade Adames and Burnes along with Yelich just to get zero return (we'd actually get a 0.30 value player in return). For sake of reference, they have Junk (one of the three guys we got back in the Renfroe trade where people have said we got no return) valued at 0.30.

    But, let's say a team would be willing to take on Yelich's contract if we add Burnes to the deal. Would you trade Burnes for nothing just to get rid of Yelich? I wouldn't. I certainly wouldn't want to trade Adames, Burnes, and Yelich for Junk. We're much better off getting another year out of Burnes and Adames and trading them for a bunch of prospects who can complement Yelich for league minimum.

    If you can look past the negative trade value due to the contract, Yelich has some value to the team as a player. The contract will keep the team from signing or extending other players, but if he can keep a .350+ OBP, he can help the team win. He'll likely be the LF this year, transitioning to DH as our OF prospects make the way to the MLB team. 

    At some point in the future, the team will probably have to just eat the contract (or most of it in trade), but that's a few years down the road. Until then, we can use this as Exhibit A as to why we need to strongly consider whether it is worth it to "back up the truck" to sign another big money, long-term deal to someone that takes them into their mid-30's... even if we really like that player. Even if that player remains an average-to-above-average MLB player, we'd still wish we could give him away for nothing just to get out of the contract.

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    20 hours ago, Robocaller said:

     

    I think the most likely successful course would be to expose Yelich to weird religious sects that would cause him to retire, if he joined them. That's the best-case scenario, assuming we don't want to indulge in any foul play. I don't think I'm joking.

     

    Well, he IS playing for the same organization that brought you Danny Thomas?.

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    I think Yeli is the primary DH this year, with some time in LF.  The Brewers’ statisticians likely expect some bounce back in ‘23 in part to a finally healthy Yelich AND the new shift rules.  Given he led the league in hard-hit groundball outs, it’s likely that some become hits.  I’d always consider trading anyone, but I don’t want to eat $75million to have him play for someone else.  This is why the old August waiver period should come back.  We could have tried to move guys like him, McCutchen, Wong, etc in August if someone was willing to take on their salaries.  But I wouldn’t want to lose him to free agency while still having to pay every dime (remember guys could be pulled off of waivers)

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    1 hour ago, DHonks said:

    I think Yeli is the primary DH this year, with some time in LF.  The Brewers’ statisticians likely expect some bounce back in ‘23 in part to a finally healthy Yelich AND the new shift rules.  Given he led the league in hard-hit groundball outs, it’s likely that some become hits.  I’d always consider trading anyone, but I don’t want to eat $75million to have him play for someone else.  This is why the old August waiver period should come back.  We could have tried to move guys like him, McCutchen, Wong, etc in August if someone was willing to take on their salaries.  But I wouldn’t want to lose him to free agency while still having to pay every dime (remember guys could be pulled off of waivers)

    Barring injury, I think he'll play at least 50 games in the OF, and maybe even 80+.  

     

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    6 hours ago, DHonks said:

    I think Yeli is the primary DH this year, with some time in LF.  

    I think the Brewers will start Mitchell and Frelick, but I don't think they'll have an entire OF of rookies. Do you think they'll play Taylor everyday in RF, do you believe Wiemer is ready, or do you think they'll acquire another OF?

    I'd guess that Yelich will be the primary LF, with plenty of "days off" at DH and Taylor getting a lot of playing time as the primary backup at all three OF positions. Wiemer will probably make his MLB debut this season, and by opening day 2024, I could see Yelich being the primary DH, but I don't think they're quite there yet.

    I agree with the rest of your post, and think Yelich will benefit from the new shift rules. His hard grounders will have a lot bigger gaps to get through.

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    Stick him at DH (or 1b).  Hope for 3 WAR.  Repeat for 5 years (ugh).

    Not many options other than that. 

    At 3 WAR he's not a disaster.  Not good, but not a disaster.

     

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    4 hours ago, monty57 said:

    I think the Brewers will start Mitchell and Frelick, but I don't think they'll have an entire OF of rookies. Do you think they'll play Taylor everyday in RF, do you believe Wiemer is ready, or do you think they'll acquire another OF?

    I'd guess that Yelich will be the primary LF, with plenty of "days off" at DH and Taylor getting a lot of playing time as the primary backup at all three OF positions. Wiemer will probably make his MLB debut this season, and by opening day 2024, I could see Yelich being the primary DH, but I don't think they're quite there yet.

    People need to check themselves with thinking Frelick and/or Wiemer are going to be starting this season.  Frelick has played 46 games at AAA and Wiemer has played 43.  It's FAR more likely our OF is going to be Yelich, Mitchell and some combination of Taylor/Ruiz/Perkins/some inexpensive veteran.

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    Do the Brewers need to trade Christian Yelich?        No

    Would it be wise to trade Christian Yelich?               Absolutely

    Can they trade Christian Yelich?                                 I believe this answer is complicated

     

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    10 minutes ago, Lajitas said:

    People need to check themselves with thinking Frelick and/or Wiemer are going to be starting this season.  Frelick has played 46 games at AAA and Wiemer has played 43.  It's FAR more likely our OF is going to be Yelich, Mitchell and some combination of Taylor/Ruiz/Perkins/some inexpensive veteran.

    Wiemer? Probably yes. Frelick? I severely doubt so. Frelick is as major league ready as it gets, with one of the best hit tools (if not THE best) in the entire minors. They may keep him down until mid to late April in order to gain the extra year of control. But he's going to be up in short order regardless. 

    FWIW, he'll have to be on the opening day roster if they want the possibility of gaining that extra draft pick from the ROY vote. 

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    Frelick has played a third of a season at AA and a third of a season at AAA.  Before May of last season, he hadn't been above A ball.  If there was nobody else and he has an incredible spring, maybe.  But they'll go through all their other options before calling him up.

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    10 minutes ago, Lajitas said:

    Frelick has played a third of a season at AA and a third of a season at AAA.  Before May of last season, he hadn't been above A ball.  If there was nobody else and he has an incredible spring, maybe.  But they'll go through all their other options before calling him up.

    He was a college draft pick, expected to be one of the fastest movers from his draft class due to his elite hit tool....He literally just laid waste to AAA pitching, with more walks than strikeouts and one of the highest contact rates in the minors. He's ready, the Brewers recognize this, and they have an incentive to have him on the opening day roster. Hence, the Renfroe trade...

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    2 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

    He was a college draft pick, expected to be one of the fastest movers from the draft class due to his elite hit tool....He literally just laid waste to AAA pitching, with more walks than strikeouts and one of the highest contact rates in the minors. He's ready, the Brewers recognize this, and they have an incentive to have him on the opening day roster. 

    He also hit about 50 points higher all the way across his typical slash line in those few AAA games.  They'll wait to see if it continues.  Again, if they didn't have other options, I would agree.  But they'll cycle through those first, and bring him up only if all the others fail.

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    22 minutes ago, Lajitas said:

    He also hit about 50 points higher all the way across his typical slash line in those few AAA games.  They'll wait to see if it continues.  Again, if they didn't have other options, I would agree.  But they'll cycle through those first, and bring him up only if all the others fail.

    And where is the evidence for this? Because I just presented the evidence that they will almost certainly call him up in short order, if not by opening day....If you want to present things as a matter of fact, then the evidence should be clear...

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    12 minutes ago, Lajitas said:

    He also hit about 50 points higher all the way across his typical slash line in those few AAA games.  They'll wait to see if it continues.  Again, if they didn't have other options, I would agree.  But they'll cycle through those first, and bring him up only if all the others fail.

    They really don't have other options that are anywhere near as talented as Frelick. Other than potentially looking to save a year's service time, Frelick is not going to be held back in order to give a shot to Taylor, Ruiz or Perkins. 

    Not all prospects are created equally. Some never make it, some need to "take their lumps" and spend time at each level to prove themselves, eventually finding a spot on the MLB roster. Then there are your top prospects, who the team finds a way to get onto the MLB field. Frelick is sitting in that category.

    Nothing is certain, and even top prospects sometimes fail, but after a disappointing history of failure in the draft, the Brewers look like they've finally got some guys that are showing they deserved to be drafted early in the first round. They are not going to hold Frelick back "until Ruiz, Perkins and Taylor fail." 

    The front office is probably designing their five- and ten-year plans around Frelick, Mitchell, Chourio, and Turang. The "other options" you mentioned are likely going to be fighting to hold onto "backup OF" status. Ruiz has a more potential than the others, but he's still raw in the OF, having been moved off of second base, so he needs AAA experience more than Frelick does.

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    3 hours ago, Brewcrew82 said:

    Wiemer? Probably yes. Frelick? I severely doubt so. Frelick is as major league ready as it gets, with one of the best hit tools (if not THE best) in the entire minors. They may keep him down until mid to late April in order to gain the extra year of control. But he's going to be up in short order regardless. 

    FWIW, he'll have to be on the opening day roster if they want the possibility of gaining that extra draft pick from the ROY vote. 

    Agreed, I believe Frelick will win LF job in ST, he doesnt need more time in the minors... Look at Sal's perfect comp in Steven Kwan, he made Guardians 2022 OD roster... I see the same thing happening to Sal.

    How I see our 23 OD OF:

    Frelick in LF

    Mitchell/Taylor platoon in CF

    Someone like Adam Duvall or Robbie Grossman (Cheap(er) vet) in RF

    Yelich will be DH

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    Just now, DR28 said:

    Agreed, I believe Frelick will win LF job in ST, he doesnt need more time in the minors... Look at Sal's perfect comp in Steven Kwan, he made Guardians 2022 OD roster... I see the same thing happening to Sal.

    How I see our 23 OD OF:

    Frelick in LF

    Mitchell/Taylor platoon in CF

    Someone like Adam Duvall or Robbie Grossman (Cheap(er) vet) in RF

    Yelich will be DH

    Honestly, barring a free agent signing, which wouldn't make a lot of sense in light of the Renfroe trade, I think we're going to see: Yelich in LF, Frelick in CF, and Mitchell in RF, with Taylor as the 4th outfielder seeing regular at-bats. Yelich will get time at DH, but I don't see him moving there full time just yet. 

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    30 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

    Honestly, barring a free agent signing, which wouldn't make a lot of sense in light of the Renfroe trade, I think we're going to see: Yelich in LF, Frelick in CF, and Mitchell in RF, with Taylor as the 4th outfielder seeing regular at-bats. Yelich will get time at DH, but I don't see him moving there full time just yet. 

    We need to replace Renfroe’s production… Cant rely on Mitchell or Taylor to do that alone.

    Think we’ll add a cheap vet OF on a 1 year deal to play RF.

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    28 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

    Honestly, barring a free agent signing, which wouldn't make a lot of sense in light of the Renfroe trade, I think we're going to see: Yelich in LF, Frelick in CF, and Mitchell in RF, with Taylor as the 4th outfielder seeing regular at-bats. Yelich will get time at DH, but I don't see him moving there full time just yet. 

    I see Frelick in CF OD as well. 70 hit-tool prospects are rare and need to play right away. I’m expecting a Frelick extension sooner than later, so the extra year won’t matter, so go for the draft-pick. 

    Wiemer can replace Mitchell in RF sometime after the 3rd week of April, with Mitchell taking over CF and Frelick to LF with Yelich to DH. This OF is so fast and athletic it’s ridiculous. Boatloads of runs will be saved for this pitching-staff.

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    5 hours ago, Brewcrew82 said:

    And where is the evidence for this? Because I just presented the evidence that they will almost certainly call him up in short order, if not by opening day....If you want to present things as a matter of fact, then the evidence should be clear...

    You didn't present any evidence.  You presented your opinion.

    You know what you get when you rush a young talented player?  You get Keston Hiura.  

     

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