Rockies sign Podsednik to minor league deal worth up to 700K

[BrewCrewForever]

I actually really liked Podsednik when he was here in Milwaukee. During his time here he was my favorite player on those teams. I hope he makes the Rockies roster.

[JohnBriggs12]

All he did was be the sparkplug for a championship team in 2005 including winning a World Series game in extra innings.

 

In 2007:

 

White Sox with Podsednik starting: 30-25 .545

 

Without Podsednik starting: 42-65 .393

 

Yep, a completely worthless player.

[JohnBriggs12]

All he did was be the sparkplug for a championship team in 2005 including winning a World Series game in extra innings.

 

In 2007:

 

White Sox with Podsednik starting: 30-25 .545

 

Without Podsednik starting: 42-65 .393

 

Yep, a completely worthless player.

[RobertR]

Correlation does not equal causation.

 

That said, I see nothing wrong with a team signing Podsednik to $700K as a backup/insurance policy. He runs well and it's not like he's been putting up .500 OPS seasons where there's no justification for his bat in the lineup. Really, is he any worse than Craig Counsell offensively?

 

Robert

[RobertR]

Correlation does not equal causation.

 

That said, I see nothing wrong with a team signing Podsednik to $700K as a backup/insurance policy. He runs well and it's not like he's been putting up .500 OPS seasons where there's no justification for his bat in the lineup. Really, is he any worse than Craig Counsell offensively?

 

Robert

[TooLiveBrew]

White Sox with Podsednik starting: 30-25 .545

 

Without Podsednik starting: 42-65 .393

That's nothing but coincidence and probably at most an example of how poor their OF depth was that year.

[TooLiveBrew]

White Sox with Podsednik starting: 30-25 .545

 

Without Podsednik starting: 42-65 .393

That's nothing but coincidence and probably at most an example of how poor their OF depth was that year.

[endaround]

By the same "logic" the Brewers are a much better team without Ryan Braun

[endaround]

By the same "logic" the Brewers are a much better team without Ryan Braun

[jason21nl]

All he did was be the sparkplug for a championship team in 2005 including winning a World Series game in extra innings.

 

In 2007:

 

White Sox with Podsednik starting: 30-25 .545

 

Without Podsednik starting: 42-65 .393

 

Yep, a completely worthless player.

been down this road before. You will not convince the stat heads that pods was a key player in the WS run. Even though, his manager, and all his teammates say he was. Its all about the stats. If you don't have good stats, you're no good as a player, simple as that.

 

[jason21nl]

All he did was be the sparkplug for a championship team in 2005 including winning a World Series game in extra innings.

 

In 2007:

 

White Sox with Podsednik starting: 30-25 .545

 

Without Podsednik starting: 42-65 .393

 

Yep, a completely worthless player.

been down this road before. You will not convince the stat heads that pods was a key player in the WS run. Even though, his manager, and all his teammates say he was. Its all about the stats. If you don't have good stats, you're no good as a player, simple as that.

 

[TooLiveBrew]

No need to be so smug. He's not a good defender, and he's not a very good offensive player. He's a one-tool guy (speed), with a career OBP below .340. He steals bases pretty well, but he's not of much use if he's only getting a chance to steal in < 34% of his total PA. Because his CWS teammates like/d him, objective observation is to be done away with? He had one good season (2003), and DM somehow managed to pawn him off on the White Sox for one of the game's best sluggers (obv. Vizcaino was included, too) even after an horrific 2004 campaign.

[TooLiveBrew]

No need to be so smug. He's not a good defender, and he's not a very good offensive player. He's a one-tool guy (speed), with a career OBP below .340. He steals bases pretty well, but he's not of much use if he's only getting a chance to steal in < 34% of his total PA. Because his CWS teammates like/d him, objective observation is to be done away with? He had one good season (2003), and DM somehow managed to pawn him off on the White Sox for one of the game's best sluggers (obv. Vizcaino was included, too) even after an horrific 2004 campaign.

[jason21nl]

Like I said, we have been down this road before. Like I also said, you stat guys will throw a bunch of stats at it saying how horrible he is. a player doesn't always need eye popping stats to make a difference. Sometimes I think you and some others fail to understand that. You said it yourself, one tool guy and thats speed. Well thats one thing that the Sox had 0 of until he got there. Its not always about the SB% either. You put the thought of the SB in the pitchers mind, and he could hurry his pitches causing walks or serving up meat balls right down the plate. You can't put a stat on that. He was their spark plug, he did the things he needed to do to help the team win. He did have MVP votes in 05 and went to the ASG. He might not be the best player ever, but the guy didn't suck in 03 and didn't suck in 05.

 

DM pawned him off to the Sox but the Sox ended up winning the WS. So Id bet that their GM would do the trade all over again. The had sluggers, they didn't need another one in lee, they needed speed, and thats what they got.

not saying podsednik was the only reason, or even the main reason the won the world series but he wasn't riding the bench during the run either.

[jason21nl]

Like I said, we have been down this road before. Like I also said, you stat guys will throw a bunch of stats at it saying how horrible he is. a player doesn't always need eye popping stats to make a difference. Sometimes I think you and some others fail to understand that. You said it yourself, one tool guy and thats speed. Well thats one thing that the Sox had 0 of until he got there. Its not always about the SB% either. You put the thought of the SB in the pitchers mind, and he could hurry his pitches causing walks or serving up meat balls right down the plate. You can't put a stat on that. He was their spark plug, he did the things he needed to do to help the team win. He did have MVP votes in 05 and went to the ASG. He might not be the best player ever, but the guy didn't suck in 03 and didn't suck in 05.

 

DM pawned him off to the Sox but the Sox ended up winning the WS. So Id bet that their GM would do the trade all over again. The had sluggers, they didn't need another one in lee, they needed speed, and thats what they got.

not saying podsednik was the only reason, or even the main reason the won the world series but he wasn't riding the bench during the run either.

[TooLiveBrew]

Like I said, we have been down this road before. Like I also said, you stat guys will throw a bunch of stats at it saying how horrible he is. a player doesn't always need eye popping stats to make a difference. Sometimes I think you and some others fail to understand that. You said it yourself, one tool guy and thats speed. Well thats one thing that the Sox had 0 of until he got there. Its not always about the SB% either. You put the thought of the SB in the pitchers mind, and he could hurry his pitches causing walks or serving up meat balls right down the plate. You can't put a stat on that. He was their spark plug, he did the things he needed to do to help the team win. He did have MVP votes in 05 and went to the ASG. He might not be the best player ever, but the guy didn't suck in 03 and didn't suck in 05

"You stat guys"? Come on. While I can agree that the threat to steal can have a nice impact, it has nowhere near the impact of carrying a high OBP, or not striking out much, etc. Podsednik is a non-slugger who strikes out at the rate of a power hitter. Are you really arguing that having their LF faster than most other teams' LF was the difference maker for CWS in 2005? Try career seasons from Dye, Konerko, Iguchi, Buehrle, Garcia, Garland, Contreras, Hermanson, Cotts, & Politte.

 

I went out of my way to point out that Scott had a great year in 2003. He got on base well enough in 2005 (.351 OBP) to negate most of his horrid SLG (.349). CWS could have won the WS with a league-average replacement in LF in 2005, especially since Podsednik was actually below-average (AL avg. LF in 2005: .278/.335/.437/.772). If you're convinced that his speed was enough to overcome his offensive weakness, then of course my entire post has been just another "stat guy" rambling on about numbers.

 

 

not saying podsednik was the only reason, or even the main reason the won the world series but he wasn't riding the bench during the run either.

 

Neither was Juan Uribe or Carl Everett.

[TooLiveBrew]

Like I said, we have been down this road before. Like I also said, you stat guys will throw a bunch of stats at it saying how horrible he is. a player doesn't always need eye popping stats to make a difference. Sometimes I think you and some others fail to understand that. You said it yourself, one tool guy and thats speed. Well thats one thing that the Sox had 0 of until he got there. Its not always about the SB% either. You put the thought of the SB in the pitchers mind, and he could hurry his pitches causing walks or serving up meat balls right down the plate. You can't put a stat on that. He was their spark plug, he did the things he needed to do to help the team win. He did have MVP votes in 05 and went to the ASG. He might not be the best player ever, but the guy didn't suck in 03 and didn't suck in 05

"You stat guys"? Come on. While I can agree that the threat to steal can have a nice impact, it has nowhere near the impact of carrying a high OBP, or not striking out much, etc. Podsednik is a non-slugger who strikes out at the rate of a power hitter. Are you really arguing that having their LF faster than most other teams' LF was the difference maker for CWS in 2005? Try career seasons from Dye, Konerko, Iguchi, Buehrle, Garcia, Garland, Contreras, Hermanson, Cotts, & Politte.

 

I went out of my way to point out that Scott had a great year in 2003. He got on base well enough in 2005 (.351 OBP) to negate most of his horrid SLG (.349). CWS could have won the WS with a league-average replacement in LF in 2005, especially since Podsednik was actually below-average (AL avg. LF in 2005: .278/.335/.437/.772). If you're convinced that his speed was enough to overcome his offensive weakness, then of course my entire post has been just another "stat guy" rambling on about numbers.

 

 

not saying podsednik was the only reason, or even the main reason the won the world series but he wasn't riding the bench during the run either.

 

Neither was Juan Uribe or Carl Everett.