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Brian Roberts not traded to Cubs: Latest - Dead, according to the O's

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For the record:

 

 

 

Roberts is a 30 year old 2B making $4,200,000. Last year, he hit .290/.377/.432/.808. For his career, he's .281/.351/.409/.760.

 

 

 

Cedano is a 24 year old SS going into his third year. In his career (688 AB), he's .249/.277/.349/.626, but at AAA last season (287 AB) he hit .359/.422/.537/.958 and in 55 games of the Winter League, he hit .300/.396/.415/.811.

 

 

 

Gallagher is a 22 year old RHP. He pitched mainly in AA, where he started 11 games. He was 7-2 with a 3.39 ERA, 61 IP, 3 HR, 24 BB / 54 K, 1.28 WHIP. With the Cubs in late season call up, he pitched 8 games in relief (14.2 IP), 12 BB, 5 K, 3 HR, 2.11 WHIP, .317 BAA, 8.59 ERA

 

 

 

Marshall is a 25 year old LHP going into his second season. Last year with the Cubs, he pitched in 21 games, 103.1 IP, 13 HR, 35 BB, 67 K, 7-8 W/L, 1.37 WHIP, .267 BAA, 3.92 ERA

 

 

 

The Cubs gave up a lot to get Roberts, but once again, they have unlimited money to spend. I don't know what this does to DeRosa, who hit a respectabe .792 OPS last season. I don't believe either of them can play SS, so they now have two above average 2B, and Theriot at SS.

"The most successful (people) know that performance over the long haul is what counts. If you can seize the day, great. But never forget that there are days yet to come."

 

~Bill Walsh

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For the record:

 

 

 

Roberts is a 30 year old 2B making $4,200,000. Last year, he hit .290/.377/.432/.808. For his career, he's .281/.351/.409/.760.

 

 

 

Cedano is a 24 year old SS going into his third year. In his career (688 AB), he's .249/.277/.349/.626, but at AAA last season (287 AB) he hit .359/.422/.537/.958 and in 55 games of the Winter League, he hit .300/.396/.415/.811.

 

 

 

Gallagher is a 22 year old RHP. He pitched mainly in AA, where he started 11 games. He was 7-2 with a 3.39 ERA, 61 IP, 3 HR, 24 BB / 54 K, 1.28 WHIP. With the Cubs in late season call up, he pitched 8 games in relief (14.2 IP), 12 BB, 5 K, 3 HR, 2.11 WHIP, .317 BAA, 8.59 ERA

 

 

 

Marshall is a 25 year old LHP going into his second season. Last year with the Cubs, he pitched in 21 games, 103.1 IP, 13 HR, 35 BB, 67 K, 7-8 W/L, 1.37 WHIP, .267 BAA, 3.92 ERA

 

 

 

The Cubs gave up a lot to get Roberts, but once again, they have unlimited money to spend. I don't know what this does to DeRosa, who hit a respectabe .792 OPS last season. I don't believe either of them can play SS, so they now have two above average 2B, and Theriot at SS.

"The most successful (people) know that performance over the long haul is what counts. If you can seize the day, great. But never forget that there are days yet to come."

 

~Bill Walsh

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Looking at the defensive numbers it is a defense neutral move or maybe a small upgrade.

 

DeRosa probably goes into super sub mode and gives them a quality backup if anyone but Soto gets hurt. He has played ok in the OF and is not bad at 3B, 2B or SS and I imagine he could play 1B.

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Looking at the defensive numbers it is a defense neutral move or maybe a small upgrade.

 

DeRosa probably goes into super sub mode and gives them a quality backup if anyone but Soto gets hurt. He has played ok in the OF and is not bad at 3B, 2B or SS and I imagine he could play 1B.

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Looking at the defensive numbers it is a defense neutral move or maybe a small upgrade.

 

DeRosa probably goes into super sub mode and gives them a quality backup if anyone but Soto gets hurt. He has played ok in the OF and is not bad at 3B, 2B or SS and I imagine he could play 1B.

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Looking at the defensive numbers it is a defense neutral move or maybe a small upgrade.

 

DeRosa probably goes into super sub mode and gives them a quality backup if anyone but Soto gets hurt. He has played ok in the OF and is not bad at 3B, 2B or SS and I imagine he could play 1B.

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Looking at the defensive numbers it is a defense neutral move or maybe a small upgrade.

 

DeRosa probably goes into super sub mode and gives them a quality backup if anyone but Soto gets hurt. He has played ok in the OF and is not bad at 3B, 2B or SS and I imagine he could play 1B.

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Looking at the defensive numbers it is a defense neutral move or maybe a small upgrade.

 

DeRosa probably goes into super sub mode and gives them a quality backup if anyone but Soto gets hurt. He has played ok in the OF and is not bad at 3B, 2B or SS and I imagine he could play 1B.

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Looking at the defensive numbers it is a defense neutral move or maybe a small upgrade.

 

DeRosa probably goes into super sub mode and gives them a quality backup if anyone but Soto gets hurt. He has played ok in the OF and is not bad at 3B, 2B or SS and I imagine he could play 1B.

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I am not sure this is final yet.

 

It's not final as far as I can tell. I don't think that there is any question that Roberts would be an upgrade over their 2bs of 2007, and perhaps they would slide DeRosa over to SS. Roberts is signed for $4M in 2007, the Cubs could offer him Arby's in 2008. It's not as if he has a crazy contract. Cedeno is garbage, and I don't think Marshall is anything special. In either case there are no deals done -- as far as I can see.

 

The gap is wider until the first Cubs pitcher gets hurt and they have to bring back Traschel to fill in for him.

 

I think that this gamble is a reasonable one, if it keeps Theriot off the field.

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I am not sure this is final yet.

 

It's not final as far as I can tell. I don't think that there is any question that Roberts would be an upgrade over their 2bs of 2007, and perhaps they would slide DeRosa over to SS. Roberts is signed for $4M in 2007, the Cubs could offer him Arby's in 2008. It's not as if he has a crazy contract. Cedeno is garbage, and I don't think Marshall is anything special. In either case there are no deals done -- as far as I can see.

 

The gap is wider until the first Cubs pitcher gets hurt and they have to bring back Traschel to fill in for him.

 

I think that this gamble is a reasonable one, if it keeps Theriot off the field.

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I am not sure this is final yet.

 

It's not final as far as I can tell. I don't think that there is any question that Roberts would be an upgrade over their 2bs of 2007, and perhaps they would slide DeRosa over to SS. Roberts is signed for $4M in 2007, the Cubs could offer him Arby's in 2008. It's not as if he has a crazy contract. Cedeno is garbage, and I don't think Marshall is anything special. In either case there are no deals done -- as far as I can see.

 

The gap is wider until the first Cubs pitcher gets hurt and they have to bring back Traschel to fill in for him.

 

I think that this gamble is a reasonable one, if it keeps Theriot off the field.

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I am not sure this is final yet.

 

It's not final as far as I can tell. I don't think that there is any question that Roberts would be an upgrade over their 2bs of 2007, and perhaps they would slide DeRosa over to SS. Roberts is signed for $4M in 2007, the Cubs could offer him Arby's in 2008. It's not as if he has a crazy contract. Cedeno is garbage, and I don't think Marshall is anything special. In either case there are no deals done -- as far as I can see.

 

The gap is wider until the first Cubs pitcher gets hurt and they have to bring back Traschel to fill in for him.

 

I think that this gamble is a reasonable one, if it keeps Theriot off the field.

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I am not sure this is final yet.

 

It's not final as far as I can tell. I don't think that there is any question that Roberts would be an upgrade over their 2bs of 2007, and perhaps they would slide DeRosa over to SS. Roberts is signed for $4M in 2007, the Cubs could offer him Arby's in 2008. It's not as if he has a crazy contract. Cedeno is garbage, and I don't think Marshall is anything special. In either case there are no deals done -- as far as I can see.

 

The gap is wider until the first Cubs pitcher gets hurt and they have to bring back Traschel to fill in for him.

 

I think that this gamble is a reasonable one, if it keeps Theriot off the field.

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I am not sure this is final yet.

 

It's not final as far as I can tell. I don't think that there is any question that Roberts would be an upgrade over their 2bs of 2007, and perhaps they would slide DeRosa over to SS. Roberts is signed for $4M in 2007, the Cubs could offer him Arby's in 2008. It's not as if he has a crazy contract. Cedeno is garbage, and I don't think Marshall is anything special. In either case there are no deals done -- as far as I can see.

 

The gap is wider until the first Cubs pitcher gets hurt and they have to bring back Traschel to fill in for him.

 

I think that this gamble is a reasonable one, if it keeps Theriot off the field.

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I am not sure this is final yet.

 

It's not final as far as I can tell. I don't think that there is any question that Roberts would be an upgrade over their 2bs of 2007, and perhaps they would slide DeRosa over to SS. Roberts is signed for $4M in 2007, the Cubs could offer him Arby's in 2008. It's not as if he has a crazy contract. Cedeno is garbage, and I don't think Marshall is anything special. In either case there are no deals done -- as far as I can see.

 

The gap is wider until the first Cubs pitcher gets hurt and they have to bring back Traschel to fill in for him.

 

I think that this gamble is a reasonable one, if it keeps Theriot off the field.

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I think that this gamble is a reasonable one, if it keeps Theriot off the field.

 

 

 

It certainly is, I was just trying to point out that there is a downside that lowers a bit of the value they get from adding Roberts. Their pitching depth is really ugly now.

 

 

 

I think they'll start Theriot at SS over DeRosa though, so they aren't keeping him off the field.

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I think that this gamble is a reasonable one, if it keeps Theriot off the field.

 

 

 

It certainly is, I was just trying to point out that there is a downside that lowers a bit of the value they get from adding Roberts. Their pitching depth is really ugly now.

 

 

 

I think they'll start Theriot at SS over DeRosa though, so they aren't keeping him off the field.

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