GRIT defined.

[Invader3K]

Sorry if this has been posted somewhere. I thought a lot would appreciate it. Note where Jason Kendall is ranked:

 

www.flotsam-media.com

 

Activated link - b19

[And That]

Hah. That's one of the best things I've ever read. It's also caused me to want to learn so much more about Ron Hunt, whose existence completely missed me until this very moment. Thanks for the link!

 

Edit: My favorite quote...

 

Gritty players want to succeed. They just happen to not have the talent to actually do so. This results in inefficient baseball plays. For example, Jerry Hairston is gritty. He slides head-first into first base. A true sign of someone gritty enough to want to get to first base, but (crappy) enough to actually get there efficiently.

[TooLiveBrew]

Great find, invader - thanks for sharing that! Too funny. The guy actually devised numeric formulas based on real stats! Classic.

 

Fwiw, this thread title would look uber-saber-metric-y if you posted it as "GRiT..." Just gives it that authentic feel.

[Fatter than Joey]

It's also caused me to want to learn so much more about Ron Hunt

 

Ron Hunt lived in the strikezone -- as a batter.

[jordanmuehl]

Great link. Even if I don't completely agree with the rankings, he clearly put a lot of work into the computations, so it's an impressive list. I especially liked this quote:

 

"Additionally, the ball looks gigantic to their tiny, elfin eyes and thus they're less prone to striking out."

 

Absolutely hilarious. I nearly died when I read "elfin".

[RightFieldCoder]

Did anyone see who's number 41 on the all time grittiest list? Eddie Yost who played 6 seasons. If you did it by average per year, he would be the 9th grittiest player.

[whizkid]

Eddie played a few more than 6 years. The guys data starts in 1955. Look at his walk totals and OBP. He'd be a god here.

Eddie Yost

[TooLiveBrew]

Would be? http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif

 

Never before has a career .765 OPS made me drool.

[logan82]

Does dirt on the helwet count as dirt on the uniform? If it does then Biggio cheats because he never cleans his helmet.

[TooLiveBrew]

To be fair, it's chaw, not dirt - does that affect your opinion?

[logan82]

That's even worse. Making it dirty without dirt.

[TooLiveBrew]

You know MLB players - always staying one step ahead of the lawmakers.

[logan82]

Synthetically enhanced muscles, simulated dirty look, where does it stop?

[Phenomenal Smith]

Does dirt on the helwet count as dirt on the uniform? If it does then Biggio cheats because he never cleans his helmet.

 

Can't be cheating if you do it openly and the umps let you do it.

[logan82]

You mean like standing past the back line in the batters box?

[Phenomenal Smith]

Yep.