Miguel Tejada to HOU, Matt Albers, Dennis Srfate, Luke Scott, Troy Patton and Michael Costanzo to BAL

[KRM17]

Rosenthal has just reported that Tejada will be playing SS.

[JJHardy7]

Is there anyway Baltimore moves Sarfate back to a starter? I like Sarfate and still think he has a shot to make it in the bigs, but I really am not sold on him as a starting pitcher.

 

 

 

EDIT: Team information

[Ennder]

Rosenthal has just reported that Tejada will be playing SS.

 

That makes things even worse, does that mean Everett slides over to 2B? You have an Ozzie Smith quality defensive SS and you move him for some dinosaur. I don't get it.

[SheetsCyYoung04]

Is there anyway the Astros move Sarfate back to a starter? I like Sarfate and still think he has a shot to make it in the bigs, but I really am not sold on him as a starting pitcher.

I dont think the Astros will have much say since he was included in the deal, but I think his success last September will keep him in the bullpen.

 

[jwill535]

so who misses more games next year, Tejada or Berkman?

Tejada missed 29 games last year, and it was the first time in about 8 years he didn't play in 162. I think it's grossly unfair to already be putting that type of label on a guy after one DL stint.

 

i wasn't going off of last year, what i ment is that if he is truly linked to PED, he is going to decline rapidly both in skill and physically.

 

[jackalope02ca]

I am not going to suggest the Astros didn't overpay but I don't think they gave nearly as much up as some suspect. Tejada has a good a chance of bouncing back as most of the players in that deal have of making a major impact in the big leagues. Patton is the key to the deal and his star isn't as bright as it was a year ago.

[Team Canada]

An uncharacteristically lucid move by the O's -- its almost as if someone asked Angelos what he would do, and then did the exact opposite.

 

Maybe Peter was watching that Seineld episode where George does the opposite and thought he'd give it a try.

 

[Thurston Fluff]

Their pitching needs all the help it can get and they do it by getting worse defensively up the middle? Makes sense to me. Their offense should help I guess but I still don't think someone changing leagues who hasn't played at an real high level for a couple years is going to help them win many slug fests. I suppose this move isn't in isolation so we should probably see what else they do before laughing too loudly.

[Nader Raider Tim]

Nice move for both sides. This reminds me of the Brewers trading of Richie Sexson. A rebuilding team, or bad if you want to be more acurate, trades a very good player, although flawed, for a plethora of talent players. Although none of the players have superstar potential, neither does Tejada anymore.

 

The Astros do need a ton of pitching, wow look bad.

[Tbadder]

I don't like this move one bit. If Houston is getting this dumb, does that mean the Cubs are getting that smart. I definitely see the mantle shifting here.

[DuWayne Steurer]

Rosenthal has just reported that Tejada will be playing SS.

That makes things even worse, does that mean Everett slides over to 2B? You have an Ozzie Smith quality defensive SS and you move him for some dinosaur. I don't get it.

Dinosaur? He's better than league average in RF, ZR, and fielding percentage. He's not as good as Everett, but it's not like he's below average at SS. People act like he's 39, and about to go off the deep end.

 

Are people just trying to find fault with this move because the Astros are in the same division as the Crew?

[DuWayne Steurer]

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i wasn't going off of last year, what i ment is that if he is truly linked to PED, he is going to decline rapidly both in skill and physically.

 

 

Stating as fact that he'll decline is pretty bold. Maybe? I can buy that, but to suddenly expect him to be on the DL more often than not is a pretty big leap before we even know IF he's linked to PED.

 

[Oldcity]

Tejada will now be facing NL Central pitching.

 

At not yet 32, he's got some big seasons still in him. It might hurt Astros in long run. But short term I don't see how it doesn't help them.

Sure it helps them, but it's still not enough to make them a winning team. Why mortgage your future to go from 73 to 76 wins?

 

[jwill535]

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i wasn't going off of last year, what i ment is that if he is truly linked to PED, he is going to decline rapidly both in skill and physically.

 

Stating as fact that he'll decline is pretty bold. Maybe? I can buy that, but to suddenly expect him to be on the DL more often than not is a pretty big leap before we even know IF he's linked to PED.

 

If you read what i wrote i said that if it is true that he was on PED, there is alot of evidence of guys that were on it started to break down a couple years after it. I wasnt stating it as fact, just that i would suspect this to happen.

[JohnBriggs12]

"Why mortgage the future to go from 73 to 76 wins".

 

They don't see it that way and neither do I. They could easily get 80-85 wins and that contends in this division. Remember Berkman had an off year last year. Any lineup that has Berkman, Tejada, Lee and Pence is one to be reckoned with. You can't get a bigger upgrade offensively at one position than going from Adam Everett to Miguel Tejada.

 

Lee, Berkman and Oswalt are all under big money long term deals. It would be a waste to rebuild when they have so much invested in those guys.

 

I'd look for them to keep dealing for pitching.

[Oldcity]

Dealing from what? What do they have left to deal? Certainly nothing that will bring back any good pitching.

[And That]

The Astros pitching staff is teetering close to Rays-bad. I was just glancing at their 40-man roster, and got a headache while attempting to assemble a mental 12-man staff out of that morass of mediocrity. Unless the offense somehow manages to score 850-900+ runs next year, the pitching staff such as it is won't allow them to sniff 85 wins. And who are they going to trade to get good big league pitching back? They can't give up any offense at this point.

[Ennder]

Rosenthal has just reported that Tejada will be playing SS.

That makes things even worse, does that mean Everett slides over to 2B? You have an Ozzie Smith quality defensive SS and you move him for some dinosaur. I don't get it.

Dinosaur? He's better than league average in RF, ZR, and fielding percentage. He's not as good as Everett, but it's not like he's below average at SS. People act like he's 39, and about to go off the deep end.

 

Are people just trying to find fault with this move because the Astros are in the same division as the Crew?

 

Tejada is still slightly above average at SS but when you move Everett you pretty much kill his value. Everett is worth 25-30 runs a year with his glove at SS, move that to 2B and it isn't nearly as appealing.

[Big Reed]

By today's standards, tejada's $12 a year salary is pretty cheap. Why is it only brewers can bounce back from bad seasons? When looking at tejada, why not look at him like you look at hall? yes, he's on the downside of his career, but the downside is still better than many others playing the position. I didn't see anything worth while in what Houston gave up that was going to help them win next year or the years in the future. Wow, they gave away Scott. he's a 4th OF at best. he's already 28.Jenkins and Mench are just as good as Scott and are still available they gave away Sarfate - he's a franchise pitcher, right? Albers is a nice young pitching prospect. he's so good that in baseball America's prospect handbook for 2007, he's listed as having a ceiling as high as maybe a #3 starter. Wow- ace material. Whoopee. as for their starting rotation, I think they realize they have a couple of holes, and they will find somebody to fill them before the season starts.

 

As for taking the juice, who is to say Tejada will stop taking it? he can always take HGH without being detected. I have to believe by now a new steriods masking agent has been designed.

 

and when did the juice, HGH or steriods start being called peds? it gives pedz a bad name. Why not call it LSD or Viagra, or hemeroids or Gonarea?

[trwi7]

Wow I just turned on ESPNEWS and saw the MLB headline and it said Orioles trade Miguel Tejada to Houston for Luke Scott, Michael Costanzo, Matt Albers, Troy Patton and Dennis Sarfate. My first thought was damn, there goes Luke Scott, my second thought was awesome, the Astros still have idiots in the front office.

[TooLiveBrew]

At not yet 32, he's got some big seasons still in him.

 

Sure, he may - but that's if you believe he's really 32. I for one don't, as his power (ISO & SLG) declines are very similar to those of a guy entering his mid-30s. As endaround mentioned, this could end up being rent-a-jada, and would be disastrous if that ends up being the case.

 

Now if he really is 32, perhaps the declining ISO could be fluky. In either case, way too much to give up for a name.

[joepepsi]

At not yet 32, he's got some big seasons still in him.

Many people doubt he's only 32.

 

Tejada can still play, and will probably benefit from playing in Houston, with some quality hitters around him. Lee, Berkman, Tejada makes a nice veteran middle of the order.

 

That said, this is a great trade for the Orioles. The Orioles are sitting as the worst team in the league right now, with barely enough players to field a team. They get 5 players, at least 3 of whom should make the 25 man roster. It's very possible 4 will, and George Costanza can't be far behind.

 

Word is the Astros won't be offering Everett arbitration, so the Orioles may look to sign him, making it in effect a 6 for 1 deal. Plus, Andy MacPhail gets to wipe $26 million off the books. As an Oriole fan, I've been worried MacPhail didn't have the authority to blow this team up and start over. This trade is very encouraging.

 

Doug Melvin, pick up the phone and get Bedard!

[Fatter than Joey]

Tejada is still slightly above average at SS but when you move Everett you pretty much kill his value. Everett is worth 25-30 runs a year with his glove at SS, move that to 2B and it isn't nearly as appealing.

 

I assume Matsui plays 2b now?

[DuWayne Steurer]

Tejada is still slightly above average at SS but when you move Everett you pretty much kill his value. Everett is worth 25-30 runs a year with his glove at SS, move that to 2B and it isn't nearly as appealing.

 

While I agree with that in principle, he'll still probably be a 20-25 run "saver" at 2nd base, if indeed they move him to put Tejada at SS. I'm just trying to discount the notion that Tejada is an immobile statue out at the SS position. Dare I say, I have to agree with Reed here that people are really reaching to find fault with Tejada. Yes, he declined, yes, he may have been on steroids. Yes, it was too much to give up to get one good player. All that being said, from the comments people are making, you'd swear he was coming off a .650 OPS season where he led the league in errors to boot.

[TooLiveBrew]

That's not really fair. To point out that he's rapidly declined both offensively & defensively is no to make an absurd, made-up statement. He's no hack, but he really got overvalued by Houston.