Miguel Cabrera and Dontrelle Willis to DET, Cameron Maybin, Andrew Miller, and others to FLA

[hauser42]

Great deal on both ends and you have to put the Tigers at the top of the AL with the BoSox and Yanks.

 

I heard that Miggy has lost close to 15lbs already and working out with a trainer. Maybe he has figured it out and wants to stay in shape and be a huge plus for a long time for his team.

[aracko]

I cant wait to see Maybin highlights on the 4 letter network on a nightly basis. I gotta get him on my fantasy team somehow.

[brewtank34]

"In related news, the Marlins have decided to get a head start and will be taking a list of teams that anticipate being interested in Maybin in December 2010. "

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ESPN's already got a full team on it...

[Thats Freakin Sweet]

It's not all bad being a Marlins fan, you get to see the starts of lots of great careers, and you always get a good parking spot.

 

Yup, and a couple of World Series rings too!

[mothershipconnection]

Good, now get Santana out of the way too, so the rest of the teams can start matching up and getting things done.

 

Actually, I disagree. I love having all of the big spenders perseverating on a couple players so maybe we can sneak a few nice trades and signings through because of lack of interest while they all chase a holy grail.

[RockCoCougars]

Don't like this trade too much for the Tigers. Willis looked very hittable last year. Cabrera is a good talent, but he may have a short shelf life in Detroit. This deal actually reminds me quite a bit of the Juan Gonzalez trade, the only difference being that they have much more to build around now. Outside of Verlander, I'm not impressed too much with their pitching. Bonderman looked horrible the second half last year, Rogers is old, and it looks like Todd Jones will be closing unless Guitar Hero can come back strong.

[TooLiveBrew]

http://www.cariboufoot.com/photos/mikes_photos/mugatu.jpg

 

This Offseason - so hot right now. This Offseason.

 

 

[Ennder]

Good trade for both sides. The Marlins aren't going to be real contenders until Willis/Cabrera are gone so the prospects will really help them. Detroit is an old team without too much depth in the minors so I think this is their shot at buying a world series before their window closes and they have to rebuild for a few years.

[DrWood]

Anyone want Inge for the Brewers?

not really one of my favorites, but I dunno if I'd rather have Rolen. Depends on the cost.

[ELCABALLO45]

CF Granderson

2B Palanco

DH Sheffield

RF Ordonez

3B Cabrera

1B Gullien

SS Renteria

C Rodriguez

LF Platoon

 

Umm.. WOW!. Santana should be happy to get out of the AL Central so he does not have to pitch to THAT.

[brewmann04]

wow det just moved up their with the red sox and yanks as early favorites.Love this move for them,watch the red sox move on Santana now.

[GenoSeligPrieb]

Got to love those Tigers! Not only does this keep the White Sox out of the playoffsm but it could damage the Yankees chances, too if Cleveland stays sharp.

 

Out of that package of nuggets, Andrew Miller looks like the real deal, like Fielder/Braun/Sheets real, but the others were expendable when you're talkin' Miggy.

 

Even if Sheffield gets banned for life (VERY possible - perhaps that's why Detroit restocked their power department?), Magglio could have been MVP, Polanco is an awesome hitter, Guillen is a star, Pudge is still decent, Granderson's coming into his own as an emerging star, and Renetria's no slouch. Wow!

 

Sometimes, you use those nuggets to support your major league roster. And if only 1 or 2 pan out? You're that much further ahead. Dave Dombrowski's the man!

[TooLiveBrew]

Magglio could have been MVP

 

You said it, GSP. That season is one I'll be hard pressed to forget. Incredible stats. On some level, it really must've sucked to turn that in, and have to watch A-Rod top it in '07.

[Ayt]

Cabrera is a good talent, but he may have a short shelf life in Detroit.

Why would he have a short shelf life in Detroit? He's only 24 and can remain there as the offensive cornerstone even after their older guys move on.

 

I'd also say he's well beyond a "good" talent. He's an exceptional, HOF caliber talent.

[RockCoCougars]

Why would he have a short shelf life in Detroit? He's only 24 and can remain there as the offensive cornerstone even after their older guys move on.

Well, first of all he will be a free agent in two more seasons. If he pans out as well as Detroit hopes, the Angels will probably give him $25 million a year.

 

If he doesn't pan out, this could be the reason...

 

http://vinylisheavy.blogspot.com/2007/06/miguel-cabrera-is-fat.html

 

If he is in fact "slimming down", that's good, but the older he gets, the harder it will be for him to keep the pounds off. I could see him eating his way out of the league a la Mo Vaughn. Prince probably won't have a very long career either. Guys like Gwynn and Puckett were big too, but not when they were this young.

 

On another note, switching leagues should help Willis. The N.L. seemed to figure him and his wacky delivery out last year. That said, there's a lot of mileage on that arm already.

 

If I'm Detroit, I don't give up Maybin and Miller in this deal. One maybe, but not both. I wouldn't trade Miller straight up for Willis. Not to mention they already have traded away Jurjens. They had better hope these prospects flame out like Kapler and Thompson did in Texas when they traded them for Juan Gone.

[homer]

I wonder if Willis will bounce back? Maybe a change of scenery will do him good. He was not a very good pitcher last year.

[danzig6767]

Why would he have a short shelf life in Detroit? He's only 24 and can remain there as the offensive cornerstone even after their older guys move on.

Well, first of all he will be a free agent in two more seasons. If he pans out as well as Detroit hopes, the Angels will probably give him $25 million a year.

 

If he doesn't pan out, this could be the reason...

 

http://vinylisheavy.blogspot.com/2007/06/miguel-cabrera-is-fat.html

 

If he is in fact "slimming down", that's good, but the older he gets, the harder it will be for him to keep the pounds off. I could see him eating his way out of the league a la Mo Vaughn. Prince probably won't have a very long career either. Guys like Gwynn and Puckett were big too, but not when they were this young.

 

On another note, switching leagues should help Willis. The N.L. seemed to figure him and his wacky delivery out last year. That said, there's a lot of mileage on that arm already.

 

If I'm Detroit, I don't give up Maybin and Miller in this deal. One maybe, but not both. I wouldn't trade Miller straight up for Willis. Not to mention they already have traded away Jurjens. They had better hope these prospects flame out like Kapler and Thompson did in Texas when they traded them for Juan Gone.

 

 

Detroit is obviously playing to win it all in the next two seasons, if they manage to get to the World Series and/or win it all, they aren't going to care how those kids they traded end up panning out. Sure it's risky, but i won't rip on a franchise going for it like they are. Looking at what their team will be, they should have a legit shot at it.

As for Cabrera leaving in two years, who knows. The Tigers owner is a rich man and not afraid to spend money on the team.

 

[TooLiveBrew]

I wouldn't trade Miller straight up for Willis.

 

I kinda get the feeling from this deal that Willis was almost a throw-in. Like the Marlins wouldn't part with Cabrera for either Maybin or Miller, but both sides agreed that if the young duo were to go, Florida would have to add more.

[DHarris34Phan]

Great move for Detroit. Cabrera and Willis are still entering their primes. Not risking much future considering these guys will still be great for the next 5 years at least.

[RU Rah Rah]

I assume Brandon Inge now becomes available? I don't think they would want to keep him around owing him around $19 million/next 3 years to be a backup. He's coming off of a bad year so he'd probably come very cheap. Don't know either if he wants to go back and catch, but led the AL in gunning down 40 would be base stealers in 2003.

I was thinking about this as well, especially given the Brewers' talks re: Rolen. (Not advocating, or even thinking it's a remote possibility, though.)

 

[Brian the Automator]

So what's up with Inge? Did he vacate the plate because of Rodriguez, or was it too hard on him physically?

[PeaveyFury]

Melvin said he had no interest in Detroit third baseman Brandon Inge, who became expendable when the Tigers acquired Miguel Cabrera.

 

-Tom H

 

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=693327

[berniebrewer4life]

Melvin said he had no interest in Detroit third baseman Brandon Inge, who became expendable when the Tigers acquired Miguel Cabrera.

 

-Tom H

 

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=693327

 

Well that seals it. Inge will be a brewer by opening day.

[SoCalBrewfan]

The Tigers have Sheffield, Ivan Rodriguez, and Ordonez who all could be near their last legs. Even the guys I think of as younger (Guillen, Polanco, Thames) are now over 30. They are in win-now mode and this makes them one of the top teams in the AL right now. Cleveland is very good though...could it be that the Wild Card comes out of the Central this year?

 

The crazy thing about this is that Cabrera is their youngest position player now...Granderson is 26. With those two and pitchers, they'll have a young core for their next big push, assuming they can keep Cabrera (and they've got plenty of money by all accounts). They've drafted well and though their farm system is largely cleaned out, they have been aggressive in adding impact talent even when they've drafted late (see Rick Porcello).

[Tbadder]

This could be a brilliant move by Detroit (in all likelihood it is) but it also could've been a desparate last chance, that if it fails blows out the team long term. Ordonez and Sheffield could simply flame out from age or injury, the rotation could be great ot it could struggle--everyone of their starters has had years that were questionable at best, and as pointed out even the young guys skew old except for Granderson. So while I enjoy this move (I enjoy anything that puts the Yankees on their heels) it could be a mega-backfire. Personally, I think the Marlins did a little better than the Tigers, but not by much, and so this remains, a fascinating trade that shifts the balance of power one way or the other.