Sheets? Latest: Dodgers, Mariners

[endaround]

Anybody think Sheets for Youkilis and Delcarmen would work.

 

No need to deal for Rolen after that. Youk is an OBP machine.

If Youk could really play 3B the Sox wouldn't have resigned Lowell.

 

[And That]

Your only as good as your history shows, and I can name 30 pitchers whos 2007 I would have rather had than Sheets 2007.

Then thank goodness his history dates back long before 2007.

 

[RyDogg66]

The 30 best pitchers are #1's, and there's no doubt Sheets is one of them.

Your going to find strong disagreement from me here. Your only as good as your history shows, and I can name 30 pitchers whos 2007 I would have rather had than Sheets 2007.

 

If your going to tell me that when he is on the mound he is top 30, heck yes thats true. He is top 10.

So is Pedro Martinez. So was Bartolo Colon.

Except Colon and Pedro are (insert one old/fat/washedup/arm/shoulderproblems) and Ben isn't. Be he is 28 years old without a history of arm or shoulder problems.

 

As far as the money goes, Im pretty sure the Brewers can afford to pay him. Baseball is as rich as it has ever been. The proof is in the pudding and guys like Cordero get 12 million per and platoon outfielders almost 10 million (jenkins).

If/when Sheets is traded, there will be threads popping up on this site with the question "How do we trade for/sign an 'Ace' pitcher?" because we will have just traded ours.

 

 

 

[brains and braun]

Amen, RyDogg. No. 1 guys don't grow on trees, and our track record at drafting pitchers (especially in the first round) hasn't been great.

[bklynbrewcrew]

The way I look at it is if we were willing to give Suppan 4/40 when he is the very definition of mediocre I just dont see why we wouldnt be willing to pay Sheets who is a fantastic pitcher. We cant always be cheap if we ever want to be a consistently good team.

[biedergb]

I think some of Suppan's money/signing was because he is dependable -- 30+ starts each year, 6 IP/start -- and he has playoff experience which we hope will be put to use over the next few years. Ben is among the best 10 starters when healthy, but his track record is questionable right now. No doubt if healthy Ben is a $18-20 M per year player on the open market, which is on par with Soup being a $10M/year pitcher. But if Ben cannot be counted on for half of his starts again, then is relative value goes down. For a team with limited revenue we can't get into a Pavano scenario -- pay premium for DL time. If Ben is healthy, and shows his stuff the first half of the year, I'd be all for offering an extension and agressively pursuing him next year.

[southpaw121505]

Minor detail in trading for a guy like Ellsbury, or any CF for that matter. What does that do to any value Gwynn has right now? If he's not going to get a shot why not trade him? I have to believe someone out there would give up something of value right now, if not on name alone.

 

I'm not saying I wouldn't pull the trigger for this reason alone, I'm more or less saying just trade the guy now while he might have a smudge of value still.

[MarquesJohnson2000]

Doug just claimed on Homer's show that he has had no discussions with Boston.

[TooLiveBrew]

Glad we can finally confirm that these talks took place. Thanks marques. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/wink.gif

[danzig6767]

If we somehow extended Sheets, i'd assume the team would take out some insurance on his contract to protect against a bad injury.

[biedergb]

OK obligatory "DougSpeak" comment here:

 

Doug just claimed on Homer's show that he has had no discussions with Boston.

 

So this mean that Sheets is traded, and an announcement will be made tomorrow. That'll free up the 40 man for Riske.http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/wink.gif

[PeaveyFury]

Interesting note from McCalvey's latest:

"There was a club that asked about [sheets], but it wasn't on the East Coast," Melvin said.

 

http://milwaukee.brewers.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20071203&content_id=2316320&vkey=news_mil&fext=.jsp&c_id=mil

[tigerbrew]

"There was a club that asked about [sheets], but it wasn't on the East Coast," Melvin said.

If Seattle is the club asking about Sheets, I would probably ask for catcher Jeff Clement and Aussie lefty Ryan Rowland-Smith in return. I wouldn't mind giving them Mench too if they want.

[jjfanec]

Handicourt said it was the Dodgers

[TCSM]

^^url isn't valid by the way.

[MoneyballMan]

Yeah, I couldn't get it to work either. Oh, I hope Broxton is back in the realm of possibilities here....

[trwi7]

Interesting about the Dodgers.

Try this link

I'd love to raid their young talent since they don't seem to be willing to play them and would rather way overpay for mediocre free agents like Juan Pierre.

[jjfanec]

Sorry I dont know why that wouldnt work. I will just take it off there

[splitterpfj]

When he said west coast team, I wondered about the Dodgers. They do have multiple young players to deal from, and they've said they wanted to add a veteran starter, if possible.

 

I seriously doubt this will ever go anywhere, but it's certainly interesting.

[PeaveyFury]

The Dodgers certainly have a few players that the Brewers would love to get- Laroche and Broxton would be a heck of a starting point.

[trwi7]

The Dodgers certainly have a few players that the Brewers would love to get- Laroche and Broxton would be a heck of a starting point.

 

You guys are going to have to stop making offers like this. I may never stop drooling.

[MoneyballMan]

The Dodgers certainly have a few players that the Brewers would love to get- Laroche and Broxton would be a heck of a starting point.

That would be a GREAT starting point!

[TCSM]

is adding kemp or kershaw in that package asking for too much?

[brewswinga2]

I would think that Kershaw is untouchable and Kemp could maybe be had with LaRoche. I would do Broxton, Ethier, and LaRoche, but that might be asking too much also.

[jtsteward]

Kemp is a stud but I would package a deal around Kershaw. Whatever it took to get Kershaw (within reason) I would go with. I'd love our rotation of the future with Yo, Kershaw, Villanueva, and Parra in it. It would be great for the long run.

 

But if he can't be had I would love Kemp. He's a pretty good "consolation" present.