Riske close to being a Brewer? (Possible announcement midweek)

[brettac1]

That trade would be fantastic. Though I'm not thinking the Cards would pick up much of the salary, since they're not getting anything super great in return. I'd be thrilled to see three of my least favorite Brewers in Estrada, Mench, and Gwynn all move in one offseason. Sure would beat last year's.

[dpapo]

I believe the Dec. 1st arby deadline is only for current free agents. The Brewers have until the 12th of Dec. to decide whether or not they want to offer arby to Mench.

 

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/schedule/important_dates.jsp

[fondybrewfan]

I guess I dont buy the "He cant pitch in pressure situations" argument. Many have said that once put in a closers role he has imploded. Well I would argue that many times the 7th and 8th innings are much more pressure packed than the 9th. Unless you are a long relief scrap heap kind of guy you will be pitching in pressure packed situations. I highly doubt he has accumulated his stats by pitching in blow outs games or in the 6th innings of games. The 8th inning has just as much pressure as the 9th, just ask Turnbow

[LUKE232323]

What kind of stuff does Riske have? I've never seen him pitch.

 

Sorry if this was already covered.

[trwi7]

What kind of stuff does Riske have? I've never seen him pitch.

 

Sorry if this was already covered.

 

Tops out at about 92, good deception and throws a splitter as well.

[SoCalBrewfan]

well then of course if he was offered, we could have a graffanino situation like last season and be stuck with him if we are unable to move him.

 

Mench is not eligible for free agency like Graffanino was. Tomorrow's deadline is for arbitration offers to free agents. The deadline for arby offers to non-free-agent players is yet to come. (Dec. 15?)

[PeaveyFury]

McCalvy chimes in at Brewers.com:

 

http://milwaukee.brewers.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20071130&content_id=2314263&vkey=news_mil&fext=.jsp&c_id=mil

 

Basically confirming what we know- deal is essentially done, just finalizing incentives and the minor stuff, and should be ready early next week.

[TooLiveBrew]

I hope they finish this up without any hitches. Adding Riske is a big improvement.

[twobrewers]

On Page 7 there was some talk about our minor league pitchers possible role with the MLB club this year...

 

From Brewers.com

Melvin is working to add bullpen depth this winter, and Thursday evening was reportedly close to a deal with former Royals right-hander David Riske. Among players in the Brewers' Minor League system, right-hander Luis Pena has a closer-type arm, Melvin said. He wonders whether Pena could emerge for Milwaukee the way Manny Corpas emerged for the Colorado Rockies in 2007.

[TooLiveBrew]

Thanks - nice find, twobrew. It'd be a nice change of pace to get some solid relief help from within, wouldn't it?

[GenoSeligPrieb]

"Wise is exactly the type of player if on another team people here would be salivating over. "

 

Seriously, shouldn't this be in blue, end?

 

Wise had a 4.19 ERA and a 1.45 WHIP. At this point in his career, Wise, at 32 and now scared to picth after beaning Felipe Lopez, is another Scott Eyre or a Luis Vizcaino.

 

The only way I salivate over anyone like Wise is when I yawn when thinking about them, and a drop of spittle dangles from my lip.

[dadofandrew]

No doubt Wise would sign a 1-2 year deal for $2.5M per or more. The price of middle relief has gone up this offseason.

[LouisEly]

But the fact is 7 times Turnbow gave up a total of 3 or more runs always in crucial situations. Riske only had one outing out of 65 where he allowed more than 2 runs. When you use a closer its almost always with a lead. Giving up one run in those situations doesn't necessarily mean you lose but if you let it get totally away from you, the team is dead. Oh you might not get a save if you give up one run, but your team still has a chance and this offense should win their share if a game is kept close.

 

I'd rather have the one who has the highest amount of shutout games for my closer and have the one who was less prone to totally imploding as a setup guy. But that's just me. Not that I think you are wrong as much as I think it's 6 of one 1/2 dozen the other. There are merits to both ways so ultimatley I think it personal preference on who gets used were.

 

Last summer I posted stats on this (darn you to make me do the calculations again). In games where Cordero gave up runs, when he gave up only one run the Brewers were 3-1 and in games where he gave up 2+ runs they were 2-5 (both wins coming when he gave up exactly two runs); for Turnbow when he gave up only one run the Brewers were 4-1 and in games where he gave up 2+ runs they were 2-8 (and both of those wins he gave up exactly two runs, so 3+ runs given up they were 0-7). So combined between Cordero and Turnbow when they gave up only one run the Brewers were a combined 7-2, and when they gave up 2+ runs they were a combined 4-13 with all four of those wins coming when they gave up only two runs; when they gave up 3 or more they were 0-11 (4-2 when giving up exactly two runs).

 

So looking at those records (7-2 when giving up one run, 4-2 when giving up 2 runs, 0-11 when giving up 3+ runs), I find it hard to understand why you would prefer someone who gives up runs in bunches over someone who gives up one here and there. If they are in a save situation and they give up one run the worst thing that happens is that the game is tied, and I'll take the Brewers offense in extra innings. Regardless of the theory, the team's records in those scenarios speak for themselves.

[And That]

According to Haudricourt, this now won't be finalized for a few more days. Perhaps finding a way to free up a 40-man spot.

[giffted1]

From Yahoo Sports.

 

"Free-agent David Riske is all but signed with the Milwaukee Brewers, a baseball source said, further depleting the list of available relief pitchers."

[dadofandrew]

I can't imagine the 40 man thing is an issue, as both Anderson and Rivera would not only clear waivers, but barely be noticed if they were miraculously claimed.

 

Are they just waiting for a physical, maybe?

[And That]

Physical, or maybe a trade is pending that would free up a spot. Could be Riske's favorite day of the week is Wednesday, and he's just waiting.

[TooLiveBrew]

My money would be on a physical. Riske'd have to have it administered by the Brewers' doctors, right? He may simply have to travel to Milwaukee. From the recent Melvin-speak, it sounds like any trade(s) is/are still more than a day or two away from getting done.

[Tisko]

My money is that Melvin is working on some trades involving Capuano and Mench to clear up that roster spot. I know that there are a few players on the 40-man roster that no one would notice if they were DFA'd, but why DFA them if you don't have too?

[LouisEly]

I think Anderson could be outrighted as well and they still can keep him. They can be outrighted once without exposing them to waivers.

[Tbadder]

The question was, why was Andersen on the 40 man in the first place.

[TheCouga23]

I think Anderson could be outrighted as well and they still can keep him. They can be outrighted once without exposing them to waivers.

I don't think this is correct. You still have to be passed through waivers the first time you are removed from the 40-man roster. But if the player clears waivers, he cannot deny his minor league assignment. If it is the second time you are taken off the 40-man roster, you pass through waivers, but the player can declare free agency.

 

[PeaveyFury]

The latest from Haudricourt:

*Riske was at a family wedding over the weekend and must pass a physical exam for the deal to be official.

 

*There are some final details to be hammered out, probably involving incentives should Riske move into the closer's role vacated when free agent Francisco Cordero bolted for Cincinnati.

 

http://blogs.jsonline.com/brewers/archive/2007/12/03/riske-signing-coming-i-promise.aspx

[fondybrewfan]

David Riske's agent was contacted by the Orioles since no signing has been completed.

 

This reported on mlbtraderumors

[Fatter than Joey]

David Riske's agent was contacted by the Orioles since no signing has been completed.

 

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