It's getting old

[logan82]

This thread is pwesome. Katuluu's pic made me giggle like a schoolgirl.

 

I showed it to my wife and she said "That sort of looks like you when you were skinny"

 

Double oof.

Well on the positive side I think you can count on your wife to always be honest with you.

[JJHardy7]

I know I may be in the minority of this (which is fine), but what exactly are the pictures that make Ned look silly exactly do?

 

I post pictures of Ned to make his grandchildren weep. That's how I roll.

 

Are comments like this really necessary? I am just trying to make my point on how the pictures annoy me and these are the types of responses I get? I know I might be in the minority with those who post, but I'd appreciate an honest answer. I know FTJ like to be witty and clever, which is fine, but I am not really asking for that or an answer that avoids my question. FTJ I think you have some of the best baseball opinions on this site. Your thoughts are well layed out and if I disagree you still make sense. Comments like this though are just frustrating. I think I've put enough up on this thread about what annoys me and if it's just going to turn into comments like this I'll just leave it be.

[Fatter than Joey]

I know I might be in the minority with those who post, but I'd appreciate an honest answer.

 

I said this before

 

1.) Someone commented that the Reds are far away from the playoffs.

2.) I suggested the Reds are closer to the Brewers than people think

3.) Brian countered with a picture of Baker which I interpreted to mean that the Reds are poorly managed

4.) I replied with a picture that I thought would imply that the Brewers have a shaky manager as well.

5.) Then you became annoyed.

 

That was the sequence of events as I remember them

[logan82]

Posts such as

 

Kevin Mench has really good splits against LHP, but shouldn't play much against RHP.

 

as opposed to

 

Mench would have had a really good year if our manager hadn't felt the need to "play the hot hand."

 

In my opinion both say pretty much the same thing, but the 2nd takes an unnecessary dig at Yost.

[JJHardy7]

If that's your reason that's fine, but I really don't appreciate the sarcastic response. I think some of your posts in this thread have been sarcastic and I'm just being honest as to how I felt. I don't think pictures are needed to portray Ned as a shaky manager. I know some posters are asked for detail and stats on opinions, but what good does a picture do? And then a high school picture of a coach? I do think that it's not necessary. I think we all know there are strong opinions out there on Ned, but last time I checked if we want to make the playoffs in 2008 we'll make it because of Ned or in spite of Ned. I don't see the merits on posting pictures to make Ned or the coaches like fools makes any sense. I get humor out of the pictures in other posts, but some posts are so long because the topic gets changed (pictures) that it ruins the discussion.

 

People don't like Ned. That's fine. I don't see why putting up pictures to portray him as silly or look foolish helps anything.

 

I also like #5. I became annoyed. It's been posted in other threads that other posters (those who post) are annoyed at times. I know some posters here have been here for awhile, which I respect, but I also think that a topic in the Issues thread deserves to be taken with a little level of seriousness. This isn't the end of the world, but I'd like to have a discussion that didn't involve sarcasm, etc. If that's not possible, we should maybe just lock this thread.

[Fatter than Joey]

I also like #5. I became annoyed.

 

You said this in the post before mine

 

I am just trying to make my point on how the pictures annoy me and these are the types of responses I get?

 

I wasn't being sarcastic -- just using your words, to describe your agitation.

 

I also think that a topic in the Issues thread deserves to be taken with a little level of seriousness

 

I regret to inform you that I will not be able to deliver the volume of seriousness that you seem to require to continue this discussion.

[colbyjack]

Ok, I think it's time to step away. JJHardy, you're clearly not going to get the answer you're looking for so it's probably best to stop asking. FTJ, you're clearly stirring the pot to keep JJ's blood boiling while going out of your way to disrespect JJ's POV. Please, refrain from continuing this and try a little harder next time to play nice.

[JJHardy7]

I agree. This isn't going to go anywhere, but I really am not a fan of the posts that have been in this topic. I decided to bring this up and I've been trashed by some -- even though I didn't even name any names. I'm disappointed in this. I think this is a great website and forum, but I'm not too happy about the results of this thread by any means based on the posts. I brought up something I didn't like and it's been turned into a joke or some sarcastic replies. This is fine, but this thread really did nothing except to bring negative comments towards me by some which I quite frankly think is very inappropriate.

 

I'd also like to thank those whose posted their opinions (in some shape or form) and I understand some is in good fun, etc., but it's nice to see that if nothing else maybe some posters are more aware. I wish I wouldn't have gotten the saracasm on this thread (that IMO is continuing to leak on baseball related threads), but I will just avoid anything I don't want to read and just deal with it since I'm in the minority. Sorry for wasting any time.

[giffted1]

JJ, I definitely agree that the Yost bashing is getting annoying, and that it would be nice if threads would stay on topic. I respect that some may not like like Yost, but it's frustrating that nearly every topic contains a few posts concerning Ned that have nothing to do with original topic or have been said numerous times in other threads.

 

It is ironic and a little sad that this thread has gotten off topic like so many others.

[1992casey]

I haven't been around here much lately, so I'm not all that aware of the current dynamics of some of the threads of the Major League forum. But having been around here since 2003, I can definitely say that JJHardy7 has brought up a couple issues that have continually been relevant.

 

The extent of the problem at this point, of course, is the subject of this debate. I can't comment directly on that, but I can offer a couple of general opinions, though.

 

First, I do agree with Toby, Brett, and some of the others who state that pictures can break up some monotony within discussions. However, I recall situations in the past where I'd visit the Major League forum, see new post icons on a half a dozen freshly bumped threads, and open each of them up only to find a picture, with each of the pictures being posted by the same member.

 

I only bring this up to demonstrate that there is an extreme here. I think the key is to proceed with a bit of common sense. I also think members should take care to be sure that pictures aren't the first thing other members think of when they see certain usernames pop up.

 

One other thing that may or may not be relevant here... we've seen times when members have been annoyed by trends here on the board, and when they decide to speak up, the straw breaking the camel's back isn't necessarily the post that deserves to be jumped on. I can't say whether or not that's the case here, but it's something to keep in mind when one is beginning to be annoyed by a posting pattern.

 

As far as Nedly discussion, I'm in the 'nay' camp on Yost, but I'm also in the 'nay' camp when it comes to reading opinions about him. I can't fathom anything new that we haven't seen repeatedly before, and I think it's really annoying to see the same posts in thread after thread--especially the 'B-roll material'.

 

Of course, it isn't realistic (or even right) to cut off Nedly discussion. After all, this is a Brewer board. But I'd submit that members should please at least consider that their post might be better suited to the designated thread. It isn't necessarily the first Yost-centric post in a thread that's the problem. It's when a Nedly bullpen management post in a bullpen thread leads to stuff about Mench vs. righties or Capuano in the game too long, etc.

 

One last thought: there are probably times when an in-thread complaint about board dynamics may be fine, but in most cases I'd submit that a thread in Issues or a PM to a moderator might be more fruitful.

[TooLiveBrew]

I'd also like to thank those whose posted their opinions (in some shape or form) and I understand some is in good fun, etc., but it's nice to see that if nothing else maybe some posters are more aware. I wish I wouldn't have gotten the saracasm on this thread (that IMO is continuing to leak on baseball related threads), but I will just avoid anything I don't want to read and just deal with it since I'm in the minority. Sorry for wasting any time.

 

JJ, don't feel so dispirited. I think you got some good stuff both started and received with this thread. Sure, FtJ layed it on a bit here, but he took about as well as he distributed (not meaning from just you). I'm glad you started this thread, as it keeps me focused on the right kinds of stuff re. Nedebates. I'm sure I grated on people at times in the now infamous "Yea/Nay" thread, but that's because what I perceived to be our manager hurting our team really grated on me, and this forum is my AA... Baseballholics Anonymous... BA?

 

[gratuitous picture]

 

http://www.fiftiesweb.com/tv/a-team-ba.jpg

 

[whistles A-Team theme song for remainder of night...]

 

After the season ended, so did most of my Yost-bashing-ness, though I'll freely accept that some probably spilled over into our offseason. What I hate to see is a comment like this -

 

I will just avoid anything I don't want to read and just deal with it since I'm in the minority. Sorry for wasting any time.

 

You didn't waste anyone's time, and contributed mightily to this community in starting this talk. Additionally, to think you have to just 'deal with it' really sucks. That's not what BF.net seems to be all about. The onus is definitely upon us, the posters, to find a happy/ier medium here. I'll vow to do my best and keep in mind that what's fun for some is certainly not fun - or even enjoyable - for all.

[logan82]

since the bullpen (or arguably Ned's management of it) ruined us last year.

 

The bolded part is the type of stuff that I am getting tired of. Why is stuff like that considered necessary? I apologize to the original poster for picking on you.

[molitor fan]

Funny....I agree completely with the bolded part. The conversation is about the bullpen for goodness sake. Linebrink, for example was brought in at great cost, and he was generally reduced to a 7th inning guy due to Yost's decisions. Why is it necessary? Cause it is freaking tangent, that is why.

[logan82]

Your angry response is why I think Yost should not be brought up except in Yost specific threads. Yost immediatley brings up strong opinions for or against. His bullpen management shortcomings have been well documented and overdiscussed. Why would you feel the need to bring it up if you don't have to except to prod the opposite side of the opinion?

[TooLiveBrew]

Logan, I don't think it's inherently prodding the other side of the argument - the way I read it is simply as an objective/subjective element of factors that contributed to the poor 'pen in 2007. Obviously people are free to agree or disagree, but for that particular poster, it seems that element is simply a logical part of the equation.

 

I'm starting to get very wary about Yost discussion in 2008. It's just ridiculously fitting that such an incendiary topic is coming in a presidential election year, no? http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif