Preparing 40-man roster for Rule 5 -- RHPs Pena and Dillard, C Palmisano and SS Escobar added

[Mass Haas]

November 20th (Tuesday) is the deadline for teams to add players to their 40-man roster to protect them from Rule 5, so we should see many announcements on this front from around the majors today and tomorrow.

Back in October, we speculated about the Brewers in this thread on the minor league forum:

http://forum.brewerfan.net/viewtopic.php?t=7504

Speaking of Rule 5, who was the last Brewer to be chosen in the major league phase of the Rule 5? I don't know, it's been more than a decade, maybe two -- anybody?

[And That]

Thanks to his agent in the minor league forum, we know one of the Brewers' 40-man roster additions is RHP Luis Pena. Luis pitched a lot of last year in AA... he's had some injury problems in the past, but his arm appears to be healthy again.

[JJHardy7]

Is this official yet?

[patrickgpe]

http://blogs.jsonline.com/brewers/archive/2007/11/19/brewers-still-after-kendall.aspx

 

Pitchers Luis Pena and Tim Dillard, catcher Lou Palmisano and shortstop Alcides Escobar added to 40 man so now it stands at 39.

[And That]

Brewerfan's 40-man roster and salary pages have now been updated to reflect these additions.

[Mass Haas]

I haven't plugged in salaries or arbitration years for Eric Munson yet -- suggestions? I'm guessing near the minimum, but the arby years is tricky....

 

http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2005/01/milwaukee-brewers.html

[ClosetBrewerFan]

Let's hope Crabbe and Bray make it thru. Both would be nice insurance during the season.

[dadofandrew]

Crabbe is a 2B/OF though. Unless he can play some SS, his value is rather limited.

[ClosetBrewerFan]

Crabbe is a 2B/OF though. Unless he can play some SS, his value is rather limited.

True, although there are useful players in the majors with that limitation. Willie Harris comes to mind. I'm not saying he would be a great loss but still its nice to have the depth.

 

Anyone see any reason why Drew Anderson is still on the 40? He's currently behind Gross, Gwynn, Nix, and maybe even Brad Nelson for LH PH/OFs. He also had a pretty lousy year last year. I'd rather have Crabbe over Anderson.

[dadofandrew]

Drew must be the 39th man, without a doubt. He could always be dropped if they needed to add a player. They might still drop him if they feel there's a better Rule 5 guy to choose.

[And That]

As I was updating the rosters, I noticed Mike Rivera is still on the 40-man. I then said to myself, "Mike Rivera is on the 40 man roster? That's good for Mike Rivera."

[DHonks]

I could see them adding a power arm in the rule V draft IF they didn't already have guys like Pena, Parra, Hammond, etc on the radar already

[cheezscott]

when is the rule 5 minor league draft???

[JJHardy7]

Do we really need to put Dillard on the 40-man? He was flat out awful at the games I saw him pitch in Nashville. He does have age on his side I guess.

[patrickgpe]

the rule v is the last day of the winter meetings. i believe the 5th of december

[DrWood]

Anyone see any reason why Drew Anderson is still on the 40? I'd rather have Crabbe over Anderson.

Me too. There is room for one more, isn't there? No need to cut ties with Anderson unless someone else needs to get protected.

 

[patrickgpe]

id rather have Bray. I realize that they may need to keep a spot open for Kendall. This is the first year in a while i am hoping we pass on a pick.

[SoCalBrewfan]

There is room for one more, isn't there? No need to cut ties with Anderson unless someone else needs to get protected.

 

To remove Anderson you'd have to expose him to waivers...with Crabbe, even if he's taken in Rule 5, a team has to keep him on the roster all year to keep him. It could happen, but usually 2b are not Rule 5 targets...Fernando Vina is a notable exception.

 

There will be more shuffling of the 40-man roster this offseason. They have to make decisions on the bullpen (Aquino and McClung out of options, several BBQ lefties, possible FA or trade additions). Depending on the impending Kendall decision, they will likely clear out a catcher or two (Mike Rivera, Eric Munson, Estrada?) and choose a backup that complements the starter. They've got a lot of back end starters who might be moved (see every thread on the board). Finally, they have a surplus of bench-quality OF who can't and won't all stick (Nix out of options, Mench, Gross, Anderson, Gwynn, Nelson).

[MoneyballMan]

Does anyone have a sense of where Palmisano sits in the Brewers' plans? Are they still just hoping he's a decent back-up catcher someday, or are there still hopes that he can fullfil his potential and become the starter (say after Kendall's deal is up)?

[1992casey]

I haven't plugged in salaries or arbitration years for Eric Munson yet -- suggestions? I'm guessing near the minimum, but the arby years is tricky....

I suppose Eric gets a raise for spending most of 2007 on the major league roster. Is minimum wage going up? If it is, I suppose I'd plug in $475,000 to $500,000. (Sometime we should develop way to note which salaries are placeholders rather than actual salaries.)

 

Assuming Cots is correct, you can add 121 days of time to the number posted there (give or take a day), and come up with 4 years, 68 days of service for Eric. That kills any free agent eligibility until after 2009 at the earliest. He'd need to spend 266 days on a major league roster (again, give or take a day or two) to be eligible for free agency at that time.

[sbrylski]

Bray won't be protected? Joe Thatcher, part deux?

[Zycho32]

I guess that depends on how other teams value Bray... or whether they feel production at the AAA Level outweighs the tools he has to work with on the Major League Level.

 

Seriously, isn't he 26 years old with supposedly B Grade stuff? Maybe a Moneyball-Crazy team really weak in the bullpen might take a flier on him, but he probably won't do more than garbage time.