Is Adam Dunn on our radar for next year?

[DHarris34Phan]

Isn't he a Free Agent? Looking at the roster next year, it seems that LF is our only position that doesn't have a known starter at the moment.

 

I would love if he were our big free agent aquisition next year.

[mothershipconnection]

Dunn has a $13MM option or $500K buyout for next year. That's pretty attractive for a guy who's not quite 28 with a .930 OPS and no injury history. My guess is they exercise it and he's a free agent after 2008.

[logan82]

My gut reaction would be no. Whenever he becomes a free agent, I would be very surprised if he gets much less than Soriano and Lee got last year. We are going to need a very large chunk of money to keep our current players without even going after any free agents. I still think most free agents are a bad deal.

[Nader Raider Tim]

The Reds will no doubt pick up that option. That being said I still wouldn't be shocked to see him get moved in the offseason. If the Reds do make him available, I would think the Brewers would entertain the idea of trading for Dunn.

 

As for if the Brewers would think about signing Dunn when he becomes a free agent, I really can't see it. Dunn is probably a 15+ mill per year player. There is no way that I can see a team like the Brewers droping that much cash on a player that mans a non-premium position.

[logan82]

Would also like to add that looking at $9m for Jenkins this year makes $13m for a player like Dunn look pretty reasonable.

[endaround]

Jenkins WARP 3.2

Dunn WARP 4.1

 

Not really such a big a upgrade as people think due to the fact Dunn shouldn't be in the outfield. His defense is horrendous. Also would be hesitant to give a long term contract to Dunn's skill set. I see him taking the Yankees OF or DH slot soon.

[JohnBriggs12]

endaround is correct. Dunn's best position is DH. LaPorta was drafted to be the long term answer in LF for the Brewers. In the meantime, they could still keep Jenkins or go with Gross in a platoon with Mench or someone else. They'll need to spend elsewhere so no chance Dunn is on their radar.

[fondybrewfan]

We have enough players that cant field worth a lick. I want a guy that can field out there. We cant have a whole team of below average fieldes. That will spell disaster. How bad would our range be if we had Braun Hardy and Dunn on the left side of the field. It would be atrocious

[Tbadder]

If we can't pay a defensive stiff 100 million, how are we gonna sign an even worse fielder for 150 million?

[Nader Raider Tim]

I personally doubt that the Brewers would be able/willing to sign Fielder to the type of contract that he would expect to get. I truly believe the Brewers will end up trading Fielder with a year or year and a half before free agency. Similar to Mark Texiera. The best the Brewers, in my estimation could do, would be to buy out a year or two of free agency. With Boras as his agent that seems unlikely though.

 

All that being said no one can truly say what Mark Antassio would be willing to do with his money in a few years.

[brewcrew00]

I personally doubt that the Brewers would be able/willing to sign Fielder to the type of contract that he would expect to get. I truly believe the Brewers will end up trading Fielder with a year or year and a half before free agency. Similar to Mark Texiera. The best the Brewers, in my estimation could do, would be to buy out a year or two of free agency. With Boras as his agent that seems unlikely though.

 

All that being said no one can truly say what Mark Antassio would be willing to do with his money in a few years.

 

I disagree 100%. Prince is going to be the guy that puts and keeps Milwaukee on the baseball map. Mark and the ownership group know this. At this point, you let the money go with guys like Bill Hall and Rickie Weeks. I see Prince in the Brewer Blue for some time to come.

[kgbaseball]

Front office needs to step up and sign Fielder and Braun to the same deals that Jose Reyes and David Wright got. Buying out their first year or two of FA is very smart thinking with the way the market is.

[brettac1]

I disagree 100%. Prince is going to be the guy that puts and keeps Milwaukee on the baseball map. Mark and the ownership group know this. At this point, you let the money go with guys like Bill Hall and Rickie Weeks. I see Prince in the Brewer Blue for some time to come.

 

Boras guys go where the biggest offer is. There's no chance he'll be a Brewer past 27 or 28. I'm pretty sure Boras isn't going to be cool with Prince giving away his arby or first couple of FA years, either.

[mothershipconnection]

I disagree 100%. Prince is going to be the guy that puts and keeps Milwaukee on the baseball map. Mark and the ownership group know this. At this point, you let the money go with guys like Bill Hall and Rickie Weeks. I see Prince in the Brewer Blue for some time to come.

 

Maybe if he gets another agent or has a magic reconciliation with Cecil. Otherwise, Boras clients do not sign extensions and sell out arby years. Thus, they always go to free agency.

[DHonks]

I see Fielder and Hardy getting 4 year deals this offseason. Maybe Hart, but I doubt it.

[RyDogg66]

Fielder's deal better be for five year. No sense on paying him above the league minimum next year and giving him security if the Brewers cant get something out of the deal as well (like buying out a year of FA).

[twobrewers]

I see Fielder and Hardy getting 4 year deals this offseason. Maybe Hart, but I doubt it.

First off - this thread has gotten WAY off topic.

But I will join in anyways. I don't see any reason they will try to extend Hardy this year yet - he just had a career year. I doubt he will hit around 25 HR next year. I doubt he will be an all star next year. And this has been his only full season healthy so far. Just seems like we might as well let him play out awhile longer until we reward him with a big contract.

As for Dunn - Cincy will pick up his option. But they can trade him then can't they? I could very well see them picking up the option only to trade him. He would be decent as a one year solution, but I would never sign him long term. WAY to much money for a guy with his skills.

Lastly, regarding the fact that adding him will give us another butcher defensively on the left side - reports are Laporta is going to be pretty bad as well.

But boy will our team him home runs!

[endaround]

Dunn has a no trade clause with his option. Any trade for him will almost certainly entail a large contract extension.

[dadofandrew]

Dunn is one of the worst LF's I've ever seen, he makes Burrell look like Jenkins. There's such a thing as being limited, like Bonds is at this stage, and then there's Dunn. He probably gives up a hit every other game and a base or two as well. He allowed runners on 2B and 1B to tag on a fly ball 50 feet from the warning track today. i love his offense, but he's terrible in LF.

[TooLiveBrew]

fondybrewerfan, did you really call out J.J.'s defense? Holy moly.

[kgbaseball]

Deservedly so. He's been among the worst defenders for shortstops this season.

[TooLiveBrew]

Based upon what? Error totals? Range factor? I notice his RF looks bad, but hasn't that metric been called into question lately? From watching the team all year long, I think it's a gigantic stretch to call him a terrible defender.

 

EDIT: Last year, Alfonso Soriano led LFers in range factor. Anyone who's ever watched Soriano play any position, and particularly LF, can tell you he's an awful defensive player. Heck, Brady Clark led CFers in range factor in 2005 - he wasn't a great defensive player either.

[endaround]

JJ is above average. Not much above, but above. He was sold as a great defensive player and he hasn't been.

 

He's 10 th in Revised Zone Ratings and BP has him at 6 FRAA.

[kgbaseball]

I'll take that if he hits like he has this year, that's for sure. It'd be nice to have a plus defender in the infield, but I guess JJ will have to do.

[MNBrew]

Everything about JJ all along is that he is a plus defender. That covers years of scouting and play over time that furthered that reputation. He admits a few of his errors this year were dumb errors. Gold Glovers make errors too (esp. if the merits of their hitting got them more attention for their defense, but that's a topic for another time). I don't understand the basis by which you believe JJ Hardy to be a sub-standard defender.