Jeffress Suspended for drug use - new info?

[Cracked Bat Collector]

Wow this really blows.

[pogokat]

oh right, 2007 isn't over yet...i thought the crap like this would end when the season ended...guess i was wrong...

 

i hope mat gamel doesn't get bitten by a shark or something, because that's about all that hasn't happened

[dadofandrew]

I wonder if I can call him an idiot now, without being reprimanded by the self-appointed board police.

 

What a blissfully unaware fool.

[jackalope02ca]

I don't think you can be reprimanded for stating facts on this board. Jeffress is an idiot is factual not someone's opinion. Actually idiot might be too nice a word when you stop and think about it.

[fondybrewfan]

Because of Jeffress' apparent marijuana problem, his future with the Brewers remains clouded.

Does anyone else find this qoute hilarious, even if it was intended to be that way? Marijuana and clouded go hand in hand

[Team Canada]

I wonder if I can call him an idiot now, without being reprimanded by the self-appointed board police.

 

What a blissfully unaware fool.

 

Oof.

 

[And That]

Jeffress is an idiot is factual not someone's opinion.

The term "idiot" is largely subjective, and is not really a provable thing, making its factuality pretty dubious.

I happen to think he's an idiot, not for smoking pot (if that's what he did), but for smoking pot under threat of drug test with his potentially ultra-profitable career on the line.

My guess is that the Brewers won't tack on anything to the 50-game suspension, but rather take the opportunity to do some learnin' to Jeffress' head.

 

[homer]

I wouldn't call him an idiot for trying something that 100 million Americans have admitted trying. But I would call him an idiot for trying something that could potentially cost him 100 million dollars in earned income over his career.

[SoCalBrewfan]

I'll be blunt: his future takes a big hit for sure. It's definitely cloudy. Dude's likely to see everything go up in smoke. What a drag. Couldn't leaf well enough alone, could he? Probably needs to find a new bunch of buds.

 

With all the usual caveats about unsourced rumors and all that. Hope the guy sorts things out...where have you gone, Tom Wilhelmson? A nation turns its lonely eyes to you...

[PeaveyFury]

Gah.

 

At least Angel was smart enough to stop taking his....... adderol.

[SheetsCyYoung04]

I wouldn't call him an idiot for trying something that 100 million Americans have admitted trying. But I would call him an idiot for trying something that could potentially cost him 100 million dollars in earned income over his career.

Exactly, 100 million people havent failed a drug test that they new was coming. Its not the fact that he smokes pot that is the problem, its that he is stupid enough to do it with so much on the line. Somehow, I've never had a problem with the words "No thanks, I get tested." Now it seems that he has a deeper problem. Hopefully he doesnt become a Jeff(?) Allison, and realizes what he is screwing up, but I am doubting it. I wish him good luck.

 

[TwinsBrewersWorldSeries]

DFA .... fool me once, shame on me, fool me twice, shame on you. Its depressing since the kid had alot of potential, but there is no place in this organization for people that habitually make bad decisions. Not that the organization will neccesarily jettison him, but history would show that players with drug problems in the minors rarely make it to the major leagues.

[TooLiveBrew]

Ok, first reaction: UGHHHH

 

Second reaction: a lot of 20-y-o's smoke weed

 

Third reaction: how long will it take for a young man to recognize what he has before him?

 

He really needs to re-examine his priorities right now. Any fool can smoke grass. Almost literally no one can pitch baseball professionally.

[trwi7]

Does anyone else find this qoute hilarious, even if it was intended to be that way? Marijuana and clouded go hand in hand

 

Back on page 5 I wrote this in regards to what you quoted.

I know it wasn't meant to be but that's a pretty good pun right there.

[Big Reed]

I would like to point out that a lot of 20 year olds don't smoke pot or weed or do drugs. Those people who talk about doing it on this board are in the vast minority! You would be surprised if you took a poll and found out how many 20 year olds have never smoked weed. Perhaps, not in your circle of friends, but in mine, smoking pot is considered illegal and not a wise choice. Smoking anything is not a wise decision and many young people are realizing that.

 

As for Jefferess, while I could care less about how many days he is suspended, I am curious if this latest incident will count as a second stirke, or if because this was at the AFL, and that's between the minors and majors, it's considered as a freebee. and perhaps if it was a freebee, jeffries probably knew it and thus his actions.

 

I promiss when he makes the majors, I'll learn how to spell his name correctly.

[trwi7]

I would like to point out that a lot of 20 year olds don't smoke pot or weed or do drugs. Those people who talk about doing it on this board are in the vast minority! You would be surprised if you took a poll and found out how many 20 year olds have never smoked weed. Perhaps, not in your circle of friends, but in mine, smoking pot is considered illegal and not a wise choice. Smoking anything is not a wise decision and many young people are realizing that.

Yeah but a lot of 20 year olds do. And nobody ever said the majority of people in the U.S. do smoke pot but what we do know is that many do. However this doesn't excuse Jeffress for doing it especially when he has already failed one drug test.

[Big Reed]

whether he likes to smoke or not, he's got to realize after testing positive the first time, he is now subjected to routine regular tests. he has to know that! Right?

 

I think what has happened is that the substances that were once used as test blockers are no longer effective as drug testing has become more accurate.

 

a medical journal this summer pointed out that taking high levels of HGH would help an athlete pass their steriods tests. Supposedly, having a lot of HGH in your system would make your steriod levels look low enough to be within normal acceptable standards. So a player taking steriods, and also HGH would never test positive for steriods. Although if tested for HGH, hs HGH levels would be off the charts. but baseball athletes knew they'd never be tested for HGH. Those players who tested positive for steriods this year probably didn't take enough HGH to hide their steriod intake.

 

I have to believe the blocking agents users are taking are no longer blocking the effectiveness /accuracy of the drug tests.

 

once again, I will ask the simple question - he has to know he will be tested regularly. Right?

[danzig6767]

I used to smoke more pot than Cheech and Chong combined and greatly enjoyed it.Years ago got an offer for a 17 dollar and hour job and it came with drug testing,so i put down the bong because i wanted the job more than the bud.This dude has a chance to play in the bigs along and make enough money to be profiled on MTV Cribs at some point,but he'd rather keep getting high.

 

Weed is enjoyable,but not that enjoyable

[biedergb]

He's got to realize that if he plays his cards right, he can make more money than he can imagine, and doing it playing a game that most of us love. After that he can have all teh money and time to smoke whatever he wants, if he so chooses then.

 

I echo danzig's sentiment, I knew plenty of people in college who used marijuana, but once it was time for a job, law school, med school, etc, it was time to put it aside because it was not the time to risk your future. So I knew plenty of 22-year olds who could figure it out, hopefully Jeremy can as well.

[Tbadder]

Look everyone has the right to submarine his career. He lives in America. The money he might have made is just that--money. No big deal. It's not like it's gonna provide him with happiness or stable loving relationships, and it's not gonna help him not be a burden on society. Everyone makes mistakes and everyone's entitled to make mistakes. Heck we've got a high ranking political officer right now who was a regular blow user. Only in an uptight jock world is this important. So be it.

 

P.S. Let all the cute comments about turning down millions of dollars begin!

[BCZF]

Yikes... This stinks...Did he think they would forget about him after failing the first time?

[biedergb]

Everyone makes mistakes and everyone's entitled to make mistakes. Heck we've got a high ranking political officer right now who was a regular blow user. Only in an uptight jock world is this important. So be it.

He made his mistake, but then repeated it (or at least put himself in a situation to get caught repeating it) only a couple of months later. He had to know that he would be monitored. No one is saying this guy has to be an angel to suceeed (no pun intended on our other suspended prospect), but be able to follow simple rules if you want to continue. If it's friends/lifestyle/enjoyment that led to this and that's what makes him happy rather than baseball, that's fine. But if he wants to pursue baseball then he has to follow the rules like everyone else. And rules are different in different instances and scenarios. If our Prez did drugs (as was alleged) but didn't get caught and no one ratted him out, then he got away with it, so his situation (or sit'ation) is completely different. People are monitoring Jeremy, so what he does is scrutinized, right or wrong, that't the rules.

[JJHardy7]

Am I the only one that thinks our scouting department missed something on this kid? I know other teams may have also missed this, but this is a big wasted pick. Between Mark and this guy our first rounders don't look all that promising...and picking solid first rounders is exactly why the Brewers are in a position to make the playoffs the next few years.

[Tbadder]

I agree with you, and that's why it's important. Rules are to be obeyed. That's the rule. It's worked that way since the beginning of time. Never underestimate the power of obedience. It's a priority because if we didn't have it, well, the alternative is just too difficult to imagine.

 

But lets imagine it just for a second. If a guy's perfomance is good enough to be paid for, and he's doing something illegal ( say speeding in a car, which is much more dangerous) then a guy needs to be kicked outta baseball despite his ability to do well.

 

Now lets say a guy is smoking, and he's good enough to get paid, and while stupid in some sense, but relatively safe when compared to speeding, then a guy should be kicked outta baseball despite his ability to do well. You'd hate to see someone succeed at a sport who is a habitual drug user like Mickey Mantle or Whitey Ford or Doc Ellis or...makes sense to me, doesn't seem arbitrary to me.

 

No, people should be released from their jobs for not doing their jobs well. If a person can handle it, and it's not hurting others, what they do on they're free time is they're business. But we love the pre-emptive strike nowadays. I happen to think a guy like Jeremy will sink himself thru habitual use, but he might also hit 512 home runs or win 125 games before it happens. It is his life.

 

No, I say get the guy some therapy. Let him grow up a ilttle. If he can't handle it, fine. What really needs to happen is that the contracts need to be rewritten with standard clauses that demand restitution of bonuses and automatic restructuring of salaries to major or minor league minimums with clubs held responsible for rehabilitation and guidance.

 

And that's why we need obedience. It's simple and easy to understand. JUST SAY NO.

[filthyfrog]

I'm not sure how long different drugs stay in the system, but I wonder if it's possible that his recent failed test is due to the drugs he did before his first failed test. I don't know when the first test was administered, but this thread was started only two months ago. Don't some drugs stick around for three months or more?

 

Very unlikely, I know, but it might be possible that he got busted twice for the same crime, which would make it a shame that Hardricourt reported on a confidential issue.

 

Ok, I just had to get that out there. Now that I've acknowledged the possibiliity of his innocence, I can say that the most likely case is that he's just an idiot.