Vargas to the DL (back)

[trwi7]

Back problem could sideline Vargas

 

It would explain his crappiness....sort of.

 

 

edit: It's official

 

(added text to link; added 'injury' tag --1992)

 

 

[pitchleague]

well, that explains alot, really. Wonder if it reallyhas been bothering him for a while now or not.

[TheEndless7]

that does seem kinda random...

[DHonks]

I'd love to see a Villy/Parra piggybacked start. Although something tells me we'll see Dickey this week.

[TooLiveBrew]

Call me a cynic (you'd be right), but I have a sneaking suspicion that this is more of a "sore back" than a sore back. I think Claudio used up his last chance in SF, and is either being cleared out of the way on the 25-man for Benny's return, or in preparation for the Sept. 1 deadline, though I'll admit I'm not nearly as well-versed as some in that area

[giffted1]

I wonder if Claudio was told he had a sore back after his last start.

 

I dread seeing Capuano get another last chance to prove himself or R.A. Dickey making an appearance. A Parra/Villanueva combination seems like the logical choice to take his spot.

[saget]

In other words, he stinks.

[bklynbrewcrew]

I never like to see a guy get hurt but I will be very happy if I never see Vargas pitch in a Brewers uniform again. The guy is just an awful pitcher and that will never change.

[davego]

He has the same random issue that Elmer had.

[JohnBriggs12]

Since I'm now looking ahead to 08, it's been pretty clear that next year's rotation will include 5 of the following 6: Sheets, Suppan, Bush, Gallardo, Villanueva, Parra.

 

Capuano and Vargas will be elsewhere.

[naivin]

Any chance that Villenueva returns to the rotation this week? We know for sure that Suppan will start Tuesday, and Bush on Friday, but with Vargas supposedly hurt, and definitely bad, Gallardo seemingly hitting the wall, and Capuano unreliable, doesn't Villenuava on Wednesday make some sense? He started in Nashville on Friday, which would make Wednesday regular rest. He pitched well, but went only 4 innings, so he will either be well rested, or still needs to be stretched out a bit. It would also put Gallardo, Parra and Capuano available to back him up if he can't go very deep into the game. We could then bring Sheets back on Thursday. Or, do they just throw Parra out there and wait another week or two until they need him, and then go with Villy in the rotation?

[Fatter than Joey]

Any chance that Villenueva returns to the rotation this week?

 

Perhaps. If you look at Villy's game log -- he has given up runs in about 13 of his last 16 appearances -- I really do not think he will perform any better than Cappy or Vargas have been.

[naivin]

If you look at Villy's game log -- he has given up runs in about 13 of his last 16 appearances -- I really do not think he will perform any better than Cappy or Vargas have been.

I can dig that, my thinking is that working only 4 innings in 10 days could make a world of difference for him, where I think that the fatigue of working far more often out of the bullpen may have accounted for some of his struggles. I guess I am deperately hoping that some rest can help him get back to form, and pitch well in the rotation the rest of the year. Given the current state of things, it looks like his return to the rotation this year is almost a certainty. Only question is will it be Wednesaday, or not for another week or two? Even with Sheets coming back, and understanding they are going to have to shut Gallardo down, we are basically down to 3 starters at the moment.

[JJHardy7]

I think CV could use at least one more start in Nashville. I didn't agree with bringing Rickie back so quick and I guess I'd like to see CV with some more starts in Nashville and see him do well before bringing him back up.

[brewtank34]

to all of you who say that Claudio is being told that he has a "sore back"....my answer to you is YOUR WRONG!!! Claudio has been nothing but consistent for the crew and has been one of our best pitchers all season long.. Why in the world would the Brewers organization, at this time when we need stability in our starting rotation, want Claudio to leave...we need him.

 

You all have no clue and this is why our bandwagon fans get injured falling off the wagon so often.

 

:hat

[don1481]

Claudio has been nothing but consistent for the crew and has been one of our best pitchers all season long.

The only thing Vargas has really been consistent for is 6 or fewer IP/start and giving up around 4 runs/start. That and getting a ton of run support.

 

Vargas is like Wayne Franklin a few years ago - a "winner" solely because the offense scored an unusual amount when he was on the mound.

 

Unfortunately, Vargas is what he is - a pitcher that'll eat a few innings, maybe leave the team in position to win... but not someone who'll go out and stop a losing streak or dominate an opposing lineup.

[Team Canada]

to all of you who say that Claudio is being told that he has a "sore back"....my answer to you is YOUR WRONG!!! Claudio has been nothing but consistent for the crew and has been one of our best pitchers all season long.. Why in the world would the Brewers organization, at this time when we need stability in our starting rotation, want Claudio to leave...we need him.

 

You all have no clue and this is why our bandwagon fans get injured falling off the wagon so often.

 

Please go and read the rules of conduct again. You pretty much composed a perfect example of how *not* to post around here.

 

[brewers19]

He's gonna have plenty of time to read it during his timeout.

[patrickgpe]

i think i agree with brewtank, but of course i would never state it in such a way. I do not think the brewers would want to loose another starter, especially with really no options behind him. That being said, I wouldn't call Vargas consistent. He may win more often than the other starters, but he gets into way too many jams for my liking. He has been able to get out of them more often than say Capuano or Suppan. Looking at his gamelog, He has had 7 quality starts this season, so i wouldn't say he has been dominating this season at all.

[bullox]

YOUR WRONG!!!

You're, not your.

 

[TooLiveBrew]

Brewtank = Claudio Vargas (or his best friend)? http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/wink.gif

[twobrewers]

Unfortunately, Vargas is what he is - a pitcher that'll eat a few innings, maybe leave the team in position to win... but not someone who'll go out and stop a losing streak or dominate an opposing lineup.

You say that like it is a bad thing. HE IS OUR 5th STARTER!

 

It seems like half the people love his wins - while the other half point to his poor peripheral stats and his "luck" thus far. Lets be honest, Vargas has not been the cause of our decline this year. He has been pretty much what we would expect from a quality #5 starter. He has decent stuff, has made all of his starts thus far and can usually go 5 innings and keep us in the game.

 

If you want to be angry at the pitching staff - I think their are others that are more deserving of our rath. Cappy has been god awful. Suppan has been slightly below expectations. Sheets is hurt again. Our bullpen is terrible right now.

[JJHardy7]

To continue my post that was locked (sorry I didn't know where to post it, but here makes sense). I wouldn't mind Dickey called up because that would allow CV some more time to get on track and if Dickey doesn't do well that really won't hurt anything and give him a chance (I know he has failed in the past in the bigs) to reward him for what he's done in Nashville.

 

As far as Weeks, I just don't think he's done all that well since he has been back. I still have really high expectations for him, but his power is still lacking. He played in a few games and I don't think calling him back up right away was the right move.

 

The Brewers haven't made sense with Weeks at all this year. Yost announces he's benched and then a day later starts him and the whole benching thing was gone. They send Weeks down to AAA to get a lot of at-bats to get his swing back and he plays a few games down there and gets called up. I just think that doesn't make sense. Rickie can take pitches and his on base is pretty good. It's just you have to decide what the plan is and stick to it.

 

If CV is really going to help us in September and maybe beyond he needs to regain his form. Does one 4 inning start in Nashville do that? Or is it that plus the 3 IP he threw in Milwaukee before getting sent down help that too? Does this make sense to anyone else?

[trwi7]

if Dickey doesn't do well that really won't hurt anything

 

Yeah it won't hurt anything except the Brewers chances to win the division.

 

to reward him for what he's done in Nashville.

 

A 3.80 ERA and 1.30 WHIP certainly doesn't deserve a reward especially when the pitcher is in his 30's.

 

As far as Weeks, I just don't think he's done all that well since he has been back.

 

Wow your expectations must be through the roof. .317/.462/.488/.950 is what he's done since he was called back up.

 

They send Weeks down to AAA to get a lot of at-bats to get his swing back and he plays a few games down there and gets called up. I just think that doesn't make sense.

 

The only reason he got called back up as quickly as he did was because of the Graffanino injury. It makes perfect sense.

[bretsky07]

It might be apples to apples, and partially rotten ones at that, but I think I'd give DiFelice a shot over Dickey. Dickey has done well and might have earned a shot at the mop up role in the pen, but DiFelice has fairly dominated AA and AAA.

 

In 119 innings, he has 119 Ks, 2.11 ERA, 0.86 WHIP, with only 9 homeruns and 14 walks. I'd say he's either earned a shot in September or will get one somewhere else next year.