8/24/07: Brewers (Vargas) at Giants (Lowry) (9:15 CDT)

[rluzinski]

Matt Wise in the first inning, when we have 2 starters in the bullpen? Good job, Ned. Also, good job leaving Vargas out there to die.

 

And Johnny Estrada is the slowest baserunner on the face of the earth.

 

This is turning out lovely.

Seriously your ripping on Ned for that move? It is the bottom of the first what does it matter if Wise pitches now or in the 6th.. whoever they bring in is not going go the distance anyway.

It actually makes a lot of sense for a couple of reasons. Wise is used to getting ready quick, Cappy isn't. This let's Cappy warm up like it's a normal start.

Looks like Weeks is really getting his swing back! Two run game, guys. Let's not give up on this one. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif

[Trowekamp]

Matt Wise in the first inning, when we have 2 starters in the bullpen? Good job, Ned. Also, good job leaving Vargas out there to die.

 

And Johnny Estrada is the slowest baserunner on the face of the earth.

 

This is turning out lovely.

Seriously your ripping on Ned for that move? It is the bottom of the first what does it matter if Wise pitches now or in the 6th.. whoever they bring in is not going go the distance anyway.

And then to compound the stupidity, our favorite manager basically throws the inning away by pinch-hitting Bush. So we've wasted a bullpen arm for one out, and then thrown away an inning, when we could have avoided at least one of those bad things.

 

Is Bush coming in? Or was he just the PH so the others can be saved since we might need 5 of them tonight? I hope we have 7 more of these throwaway innings.. that is 11 runs.. nice call Ned.

[thablingster]

Matt Wise in the first inning, when we have 2 starters in the bullpen? Good job, Ned. Also, good job leaving Vargas out there to die.

 

And Johnny Estrada is the slowest baserunner on the face of the earth.

 

This is turning out lovely.

Seriously your ripping on Ned for that move? It is the bottom of the first what does it matter if Wise pitches now or in the 6th.. whoever they bring in is not going go the distance anyway.

To be honest I am frustrated. I can't blame him for leaving Vargas out there as long as he did, but I'd rather they put in Capuano. Although I can understand Capuano probably needs more time to warm up than Wise, but at this point they may as well have let Wise keep pitching. Considering it was the first inning we don't want to be on our third pitcher this early if we don't have to. But in general I'm just frustrated. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif

 

[And That]

You know, I was actually saying we should walk Vizquez in to get to Lowry? That is how little trust I have in Vargas. I've been saying it all season. CV is just terrible.

[SoCalBrewfan]

Too many times the Brewers have just gone limp in the face of adversity...given our history on the west coast that seems like a given. And yet...maybe not tonight? It's nice to see a run here and some glimmer of life.

[brewers19]

So, we're on our 4th pitcher after only one inning?

[adambr2]

Note to Brewers pitchers: The Giants have a TERRIBLE offense!!! Come ON!!!!!!

[Trowekamp]

Considering it was the first inning we don't want to be on our third pitcher this early if we don't have to. But in general I'm just frustrated

I think we can universally agree on that statement..

 

What does it say when the IGT is this fired up and negative in the first inning? And the more amazing thing is with the games that have been blown by this pitching staff that frustration is totally justified.

[Trowekamp]

Has there been a game where two starters for the same team couldn't make it through an inning? Come on Cappy pick it up.

[RightFieldCoder]

I feel bad for the position players. They go and put a 3 spot on the board and Vargas/Estrada give away the lead plus some. Will this team ever have a catcher?

[crewcrazy]

Hey, a scoreless inning! Progress, isn't it?

[phatmatt1215]

It's odd seeing Cappy as a reliever.

[danzig6767]

What was the logic behind using Wise instead of Capuano right away if the intention was to just use a pitcher as a pinch hitter?

[And That]

What was the logic behind using Wise instead of Capuano right away if the intention was to just use a pitcher as a pinch hitter?

You need to get out of that inning.

 

[brewers19]

The Giants are just a bunch of pawns; the real matchup here is the Brewers offense vs. the Brewers pitching.

[brains and braun]

The logic was already explained. Cappy needs more time to get ready.

[brewers19]

Yeah, but why did Ned waste Bush when he could've just sent Wise up to bat? Wise is batting 1.000 afterall.

[adambr2]

Won't dog Yost too much for this .....but can someone please explain to me why leading off the inning with a pitcher as a pinch-hitter, then not having him pitch, makes even a little bit of sense? Anyone?

[brains and braun]

Not sure about that. If I had to guess, I would just say it was a matter of conserving the bench. Yost isn't going to use three starters in one game. At some point, someone just needs to take a pasting.

[SoCalBrewfan]

I guess with a short bench he wanted to use his best-hitting pitcher rather than a genuine pinch hitter. Wouldn't that be Gallardo, though?

[jjfanec]

I know estrada cant throw and the giants stole two bases on him but to lump him with vargas as reasons why the position players should be mad isnt right. 6 earned runs in 2/3 of an inning. This is on vargas. no one else right now

[fondybrewfan]

No use wasting a position player to hit this early in the game. Made good sense to me

[phatmatt1215]

What a crazy crazy game this is.

[DougJones43]

Here. We. Go. Again.

 

 

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[Zycho32]

Hey 'Brains and Braun', what's your avatar from anyway?