Jenkins "Where are you Mr Second Half?"

[Invader3K]

Depends on if the pitcher he was facing at the time was right handed or not.

[Team Canada]

Take out the games from Aug 12 -15 when he had for of these homeruns and his stats fall.

 

Gee, if you remove a third of a sample, it changes completely. I'm shocked!

[Invader3K]

Let's face it, anyone who looks that similar to Brett Favre is never going to get a fair shake on brewerfan.net.

[Brian the Automator]

"To be fair he's not starting against lefthanders."

 

But, also to be fair, he's had some big hits off lefthanders including the 3 run blast off of Mike Stanton just last Saturday (how quickly people forget when it comes to Jenkins!). His 12 RBI in 57 AB's vs. lefties is pretty good as is his .472 slugging percentage.

I'm not saying he's never gotten a key hit vs. a LHP, but the fact of the matter is that he's only had 53 at-bats all season vs. LHP, whereas an everyday starter like Prince has had 157. That's a statistical advantage for Geoff.

 

[brettac1]

Right, but you can't ask the guy to succeed in a situation that he's not playing in. When he has played this season he has gotten the job done.

[BrewCrewForever]

Jenkins has been hot, and Im sure he will be even hotter once September roles around. Dude in a platton role has 19 HR this year and is batting around .270. That is pretty good. Lay off the Jenkins bashing.

[brettac1]

Yeah, everyone knows that but for whatever reason hauser has an axe to grind against Jenkins.

[jlau20]

I hate to add on also, but you can't just take away games from the last few weeks to make his stats worse. It doesn't work that way.

[twobrewers]

How many post into this thread do you think it took before Hauser wished that he had never started this thread?

 

As an avid Jenkins hater - I think he has done exactly what has been asked of him this year. I can't complain.

[JenksFan5]

Not to mention the fact that his two home runs against Houston gave the crew a 2-0 lead respectively.

 

The original post totally confuses me. Jenkins is not a superstar so I am not expecting superstar numbers, but he has been pretty good as of late and has had a respectable season in limited admits, albeit mostly against righties.

[homer]

From the JJ Hardy in the 8th spot thread:

"Jenkins still has not gotten his second half streak that many have claim is his birthright,"

 

Hauser,

Where do you get this stuff from? And why does being the contrarian matter to you so much? Every other thread you have a "everyone thinks/thought but they are/were wrong" comment. As in "everyone thought Bill Hall would be a perenial all star" or " Everyone loves homegrown players too much" or "Many people overrate Corey Hart" or "Many people claim a streak is Jenkins birthright". I'd say in most instances everyone doesn't think the way you think they do but even so, why do you continually have to mention it?

[mothershipconnection]

How many post into this thread do you think it took before Hauser wished that he had never started this thread?

 

He still isn't. Dude has made a couple hundred inaccurate posts about Jenks. It's pointed out, and he does it again, so it's obviously not deterring him.

 

To be fair to Hauser, though, if you took out all of his negative posts about Jenkins, he wouldn't have any hollow, negative posts about Jenkins.

[TerraceReserved]

To be fair to Hauser, though, if you took out all of his negative posts about Jenkins, he wouldn't have any hollow, negative posts about Jenkins.

http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/roll.gif That is pretty darn good.

[1992casey]

I have issues with the lead post in this thread, too. But, please, rather than attacking the member who started this thread, let's attempt to address the issue at hand: that would be Geoff Jenkins' recent performance.

[Point Beer Is Best]

Is this the same guy who started the "Cappy: The true ace of the staff" thread last year?

 

Anywho, I'll wait until late September before declaring Jenkin's late year surge non-existent. So far, he's doing pretty good.

[pitchleague]

boy, tough crowd (understandably).

 

hauser, I think mid-page one you made a comment along the lines of Jenkins needing to carry the team or something like that (I'm too lazy to go back and look, copy/paste it, and insert it here).

 

But, realistically, right now the Brewers have a trio (or more) of hitters that are capable of "carrying" the team, and personally, I think I'd rather have that then have to depend on one guy (Jenkins) like we did in 2000-2004 or so. I think Jenkins kind of saw it last year as his numbers were atrocious until he got to September, when he finally had his hot streak.

 

Honestly, nearly half the Brewers lineup is capable of "carrying" the team for a stretch or just a single game (Gross last night). That is MUCH better than when we had just the one go-to guy.

[DougJones43]

I checked the last ten days when Jenkins hit one of his dingers in a win which team won by 5 runs. His two homer game was about the only offense in a 6-4 loss. His other bombs came in some blow outs. When his he going to be the man getting some big hits that win this team some games down the stretch.

Jenkins currently ranks second on the team (behind only Prince) in Win Probability Added. That stat takes game situations into account quite a bit, so that means Jenkins has been contributing when it matters and that his hitting has been helping to create wins for the Brewers.

[rluzinski]

Not to mention that Jenkins was one of the most clutch batters in the league last year. But again, I don't think hauser is basing his feelings of Jenkins on facts.

[hauser42]

From the JJ Hardy in the 8th spot thread:

"Jenkins still has not gotten his second half streak that many have claim is his birthright,"

 

Hauser,

Where do you get this stuff from? And why does being the contrarian matter to you so much? Every other thread you have a "everyone thinks/thought but they are/were wrong" comment. As in "everyone thought Bill Hall would be a perenial all star" or " Everyone loves homegrown players too much" or "Many people overrate Corey Hart" or "Many people claim a streak is Jenkins birthright". I'd say in most instances everyone doesn't think the way you think they do but even so, why do you continually have to mention it?

I get this from posters on this site. People have posted things referring to this, and have been followed up with other posters also laying similar claims to this.

 

Last year people posted in the Jenkins/Lee threads that Jenks would get hot in the second half like he normally does. It did happen but not until he had been benched and the season was over in October.

 

On the homegrown issue look at the trade forum. There are some very out of this world trade offers that are posted when it comes to the Brewer farm system. Folks are posting that Gwynn and other prospects will bring back top talent.

 

Examples

I'd give up Zack Jack and Escobar for Dye right now, no doubt.

Wondering if a Deal of Mench, Jackson and Sarfate would be enough For Nathan and A+/AA prospect

Bedard

bullpen arm

 

Baltimore Gets:

 

Carlos V.

Inman

A. Escobar

 

Looking and posting trade rumors are fun. But to think that Zack Jack and Gwynn Jr have all kinds of value is scary they are fringe minor leaguer. Oh the crazy guy that I am I posted 2 months prior that Inman was going to be the guy traded to get someone around the trade deadline. I was laughed up but it certainl did happen.

 

I was wrong wiht Corey Hart because he has way outplayed what I ever thought he would. I know I bet with some guy that I would give him props on him hitting 770 OPS or something like that. Even if he would not he has won me over as fan.

 

You guys are right that Jenks is hitting but I'm wondering when he is going to get white hot like he does every year.

 

[TooLiveBrew]

I guess what continues to puzzle me is your standard(s). What exactly does "white hot" mean? The first few responses to your original post showed some pretty impressive stats from #5 recently. Given that you've carried the discussion forward, I have no choice but to believe that however good those numbers are, they don't qualify for whatever "white hot" actually is. Is it that he has to post a 1.000+ OPS from now until the end of the season? Is it the length/duration of said hot streak? I'm very confused as to what you're hoping for here. Geoff is, by all accounts, hitting very well lately, and I'm curious to know what it is that you're waiting on. I'm not trying to condescend here, I'm just very confused.

[bigredrobbo]

Where is the line of "white-hot" demarcation between where he is now, and hitting a homer every at bat?

[logan82]

Is he only red hot right now or does red hot mean hotter than white hot? I would think being white hot is hotter so he is only red hot right now, but he is warming up to be white hot in a week or two.