4256, 56 or 759 (and counting)

[davego]

Was thinking about this and wondered what thoughts others might have. Of the three (unless you have another in-mind) which of these records do you consider the most impressive (leaving Cy Young out of this)?

 

I suspect that I'm in the minority, but I sort of think it's Pete's 4256.

 

Thoughts?

 

 

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[BrewCrewForever]

I think Joe D's 56 game hitting streak will never and I mean never be broken. Bonds record will probably fall when A-Rod or another up and coming slugger breaks it. For Pete's 4256 I could see that falling by possibly the likes of Jeter or Ichiro if they play well into there 40's. But no one is ever going to get a hit in 57 straight games. Ever.

[crewcrazy]

Hitting for 56 straight games is just incredible. And to think that after that streak was snapped, DiMaggio went on another hit streak and hit in 72 of 73 games. Even though you didn't mention it, Johnny Vander Meer throwing two consecutive no-hitters is also pretty incredible and is probably impossible to do these days.

[RU Rah Rah]

I'd say 56. I think that the hype would be too much to handle once you got past, say, 45 games.

 

Rose's record could be broken if some Ichiro-type guy comes along and plays from ages 22-42 and gets 200 hits per year. (Easier said than done, I know.)

[trwi7]

I'm not sure Jeter will be able to break 4,256. Even if he averages 200 hits until for 9 more years he'll still be short by 100 or so hits. And Ichiro is even further away (2,729 to be exact.) So I don't think there's any way he breaks it either.

I would say the most impressive to me is Rose because of the longevity and consistency he had throughout his career.

[davego]

Back-to-back no-hitters is a good one as well. Didn't think of that. I suppose the opportunities to break that one occur more often simply because it is not a cumulative record.

 

56 is crazy-good. I guess because I was a kid when Pete set his record I tend to be pretty impressed with it.

 

If anyone has their own personal 'stat' they are impressed with (baseball only please, not your personal beer-per-hour best) feel free to include. This is kind of fun given the current state of the 'Crew's play.

[dadofandrew]

All childs play compared to 511 wins, as pointed out.

 

I'd say the hardest is the 4296, due to the 20+ years of good health needed.

[mothershipconnection]

Hitting streaks are one area where there's been a pretty level playing field across eras, and the closest to Joe D's 56 is 45, which isn't that close. However, the hits record also isn't that likely anymore, since you don't have as many players start at 18 who can have 20+ year careers anymore. Plus, there are only two guys to ever hit 4,000, so it's obviously a very hard mark to reach. Really, it's probably a toss-up: the streak will be a function of a lot of luck while the hits record is going to take an incredible career.

The HR record, OTOH, is very likely to fall again - and maybe a few times, within my lifetime.

[pitchleague]

how about those guys with a few hundred career complete games and/or shutouts? Never will happen again.

 

I mean, Cy Young--749 complete games (in 815 starts) with 76 shutouts!

[NeedMoreFans]

All-time records should be broken into different catagories...all-time career records and single season records. With that being said, 56 in a single season will never be broken. All-time, Rose's hit record and Ripken's consecutive games played...two records that will never be broken.

[mothershipconnection]

Yeah, the career counting numbers for pitchers aren't going to fall, except for those that reflect the emergence of relievers (games played, saves). Records for Wins, complete games, shutouts, starts, IP, etc, just are not going to be touched. Games played and consecutive games are also probably out of reach.

[dlk9s]

Yeah, the career counting numbers for pitchers aren't going to fall, except for those that reflect the emergence of relievers (games played, saves). Records for Wins, complete games, shutouts, starts, IP, etc, just are not going to be touched. Games played and consecutive games are also probably out of reach.

Nolan's strikeout record will never be touched, either, nor will Rickey Henderson's single season and career SB records.

 

[pitchleague]

I don't know about the Nolan Ryan career-strikeout record not being touched. Heck Clemens is over 4600 and apparently is still pretty healthy and strong in old age (like Ryan). I don't think Clemens will do it, but could come close.

 

Along those lines, I could see other flame-throwing pitchers have careers that allow them 5000 Ks. Ryan and Clemens are basically freaks of nature and there will be others. Justin Verlander could be one. We won't know that for many years, obviously, but he strikes me as someone who could be.

[Ennder]

Least impressive is the hits in my opinion. Its also the least likely to be broken since pitchers go for K's instead of pitching to contact these days and hitters are looking for walks more. You can wrack up 200 hits in a year and still not be all that valuable so I've never been a big fan of H's as a player measure.

 

The 56 game hit streak I don't know what to think of, it seems pretty unlikely that anyone ever matches it.

 

Put me down for the HR record.

[dadofandrew]

I think ARod will break 800 HR's if he remains healthy, but I do not know how many Barry will end up with.

[robfuhr]

Hopefully on Wednesday...Brandon Webb's quest to best Orel Hershiser's scoreless inning streak will come to an end...

 

That is a very impressive streak that Orel had. 59 Scoreless innings is very impressive and it will take 3 mor games for Webb to reach it...i

[Sepolevne]

Pete Rose's record will never be broken. I think if Ichiro could have started in America when he was younger, it would be more likely, but right now he's sitting on 1530 and he's 33. I just don't see it happening. To me, (I hope) whatever Bonds finishes with will be broken, and I just feel like 56 is doable by someone. It just seems reasonable.