Bet You Didn't Know This Article: Gorman Thomas -- Why, Texas, Why?

[Mass Haas]

I love it when I learn something about new about Brewer history:

 

http://www.rangers.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070816&content_id=2151982&vkey=news_tex&fext=.jsp&c_id=tex

 

Good stuff -- Jamey Newberg's been a "friend of Brewerfan" for years...

[Fatter than Joey]

Yep -- I remember that trade and getting Ed Kirkpatrick -- Kirkpatrick had been traded by Pitt to Texas and then that was the end of his career -- He got into a real bad car wreck and I think became paralyzed shortly after his playing career ended. Kirkpatrick was one of the youngest guys to ever play MLB for the expansion Angels.

 

I remember Ed Farmer (the first player mentioned in this article) pitching for the Brewers as well. He had a couple of good starts for the Brewers and then turned his career around after some injuries.

 

I have mentioned this trade on this forum (search) in one of my quarterly sermons praising Harry Dalton.

 

EDIT: Farmer was traded to the Rangers for Reggie Cleveland -- one of my most hated Brewers of all time -- Upon further reflection in my mind we are even.

[1992casey]

The public story on Thomas was that newly hired George Bamberger wanted him back. I believe Gorman's K totals held him back in previous seasons and Bamberger decided he didn't care about that.

 

I'm also wondering exactly when Harry Dalton was hired. As the Alex Grammas / Jim Baumer firings occurred unusually late in the off-season, Thomas could have initially been sent to the Rangers by Baumer.

 

I bet hawing could find those dates. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif

[mls4]

Wow that's strange. So the Rangers traded the Brewers a player, then decided not only that they didn't need anything in return, but also that they would grant the Brewers a favor? Unheard of.

[SeriesFinale]

Interesting...I'd always wondered the story about that when I saw it on baseball-reference

[Fatter than Joey]

Well it shows that GMs aren't solely interested in screwing each other over...

 

Harry Chiti was his own PTBNL.

[jaybird2001wi]

Rob Ducey was part of unusual trade, he was dealt to Blue Jays from the Phils for a PTBNL then less than a few weeks later he was dealt in a separate trade as the PTBNL back to the Phils.

July 26, 2000: Traded by the Philadelphia Phillies to the Toronto Blue Jays for a player to be named later. The Toronto Blue Jays sent John Sneed (minors) (July 31, 2000) to the Philadelphia Phillies to complete the trade.

 

August 7, 2000: Sent by the Toronto Blue Jays to the Philadelphia Phillies to complete an earlier deal made on August 5, 2000. The Toronto Blue Jays sent a player to be named later to the Philadelphia Phillies for Mickey Morandini. The Toronto Blue Jays sent Rob Ducey (August 7, 2000) to the Philadelphia Phillies to complete the trade.

[whizkid]

According to the Brewers web site Dalton was hired November 20, 1977 so it doesn't seem like he sent Gorman to the Rangers.

 

http://milwaukee.brewers.mlb.com/mil/history/timeline2.jsp

[mls4]

I thought I remembered Dickie Noles being his own PTBNL, but that MLB didn't allow it and made the Tigers give the Cubs more compensation. Baseball-reference.com calls it a loan:

September 22, 1987: Loaned to the Detroit Tigers by the Chicago Cubs.

October 23, 1987: Dickie Noles returned to the Chicago Cubs by the Detroit Tigers as part of earlier loan.

[moofnelson]

Wow that's strange. So the Rangers traded the Brewers a player, then decided not only that they didn't need anything in return, but also that they would grant the Brewers a favor? Unheard of.

 

The Rangers did get some cash out of the deal. The Brewers did have to purchase Thomas back from the Rangers, I believe.