Moves on the off day?

[razzzorsharp]

Throw down some percentages for the following events happening within the day and a half?

Weeks called up
Wise DL'd or sent down
Villanueva DL's or sent down
Yost fired

To tell you the truth, I wouldn't mind seeing all of them happening as a change might spark the team.

My calls...

1) 50%
2) 20%
3) 15%
4) 5%

[thablingster]

Weeks called up -- 95%, If Graf is out more than 3 days they have to make a move, they can't have 3 guys on the bench.

Wise DL'd or sent down -- 10%, would make sense but I doubt they'd do it since Ned is a believer in letting people battle through it.

Villanueva DL'd or sent down -- 1%, just because Ned would be lost without running him out there every other day.

Yost fired -- 5%, unless Mark A is very angry I doubt anyone else would pull the trigger on this midseason.

[giffted1]

I'm gonna say Weeks and McClung up with Graffanino and either Wise or Villy to the DL.

 

Yost Fired: 10% (If they had any thoughts of firing him tomorrow will be when it happens)

[burniebrewer]

How long has Rickie been down?

 

There's a 10-day rule, right?

 

I'm in favor of doing something with Wise. He needs to get right, but you can only run him out there in "live" situations for so long.

[jlau20]

1) Buy

2) Sell

3) Sell

4) Buy

 

Whoops wrong game.

 

I agree though, if Yost is going to go during the season, tomorrow would be the day, otherwise I see another month and a half of Yostings.

[thablingster]

How long has Rickie been down?

 

There's a 10-day rule, right?

The 10-day rule only applies if the player is not replacing an injured player. If Graffanino goes on the DL they could bring up Weeks to replace him.

 

[trwi7]

Weeks called up............93.6%

 

Wise DL'd or sent down 72.9%

 

Villanueva DL's or sent down 42.4%

 

Yost fired 13.3%

[naivin]

Weeks - 75%

Wise - 25%

Villenueva - 75% (There's a reason he was run out there to absorb some innings today)

Yost - 1%

[burniebrewer]

How long has Rickie been down?

 

There's a 10-day rule, right?

The 10-day rule only applies if the player is not replacing an injured player. If Graffanino goes on the DL they could bring up Weeks to replace him.

 

Thanks for the explanation, I wasn't sure about that.

 

[Mr QL]

Weeks called up... 95%

Wise DL'd or sent down... 20%

Villanueva DL's or sent down 5%

Yost fired 2%

 

I want all of them to happen though.

[windiv07]

I too appreciate the injury clause explanation. Thanks much!

 

Now my predictions:

 

100% - Weeks called up (Graf on 15 day DL..100%)

0% -Wise DL'd or sent down (DL'd for what? Plunkaphobia? It's not like he beaned Tony Conigliero.)

0% -Villanueva DL's or sent down (No way. He needs off 'til Sunday...not rehab)

50% -Yost fired (Admittedly wishful thinking on my part) I agree it has to happen now or it won't until the Brewers fall out completely (which I predict they will be without a serious shakeup on the coaching staff). I count 17 games clearly lost due to management in-game miscalls YTD (please don't get me started on this). This may be too large a defcit to recover from already even with perfect management from this point forward. Let me add an either/or. Yost is the either. Here's the or:

 

50% -Skaalen fired. Breweers have seen too many 1-2-3 innings, DPs & runners LOB in scoring position...this is why we are seeing more sacs lately..the coaching staff is pressing to get any run production at all because the timely hitting (to the opposite field) is not there...the league has Skaalen's aggressive approach figured out...yield the occasional home run early in the count and nibble at the outside corners in the clutch and the Brewers will chase it into a FO, a DP, or a K. Notice how opposing pitching always seems to be ahead in the count lately? Coaching staff presses, players press. Monkey see-monkey do.

[pebadger]

If Skaalen is fired, which I don't beleive should or will happen, the Brewers should just save the little bit they pay a hitting coach and not hire anyone. I can'[t remeber teh last hitting coach who seemed to make anything more than a short-term difference in Milwaukee, nor do many names come to mind in that regard elsewhere in the majors, for that matter.

[Sepolevne]

Now seems like one of the worst times to fire your manager. Besides I'm probably one of the 10 people that post here that don't think that Yost should be fired. It's not his fault the bullpen has been serving up gopher balls.

 

Moreso, has a manager ever been fired this late in the season?

[RockCoCougars]

No way will Yost be fired. I don't think that Steinbrenner in his prime ever fired a manager while in first place.

 

Weeks should either be brought up or shut down for the season. I can't see a good reason for him to be in Nashville, and they're lucky that he's handled it as well as he has.

 

Wise should be DL'ed for psych issues.

 

Villanueva should be DL'ed for a few weeks with a phantom injury to see if his arm is able to bounce back in September.

[windiv07]

Like I said. Wishful thinking on my part (which pretty much shows where I stand on Yost). Why would anyone leave a Yovanni Gallardo in to yield 11 runs in less than 3 innings today? To see if he's tougher mentally than Wise? To save the pen from an extra batter or two? That was just plain dumb.

 

And while we're on Wise...Wise K'd his 3rd out without yielding a run last night (the possible turning point for him). This is the only reason I say he won't be DL'd.

 

Charlie Lau is about the only hitting coach that I can recall made a major difference and then only to a handful of hitters on the World Champ Royals 20+ years ago. But as memory serves they did lead the majors in team OBP that year. Nevertheless, I sense that somebody on the coaching staff is going to have to get whacked (in the employement sense) if we are going to take a serious shot at the NLC Championship. The tide is rising. If not Yost or Skaalen, what about Maddux or Castro?

 

I guess the question is, if you were Doug M. or Mark A., would you drop the hammer and if so, on whom?

[brewcrew00]

Some of you need to understand it's not JUST Yost who makes calls on pitchers, lineups, in game decisions or anything else that goes on! I doubt Ned said "Let's see how many runs Yo can give up in 3 innings" but rather said something, with Maddux agreeing, along the lines of "let's see how the kid handles this." Or "let's see if he can settle himself down" Ned has less then a 1% chance of getting fired this season or even the upcoming off season. Management doesn't care what this board says or what the post game show says or thank god what Sparky says. No coaches will be fired, and I am pretty confident with that prediction. The Ned stuff is getting REALLY old, I honestly think that all the Ned garbage is just that, let the man coach, get behind him and support the team and who knows, maybe they'll turn this thing around and get hot down the stretch.

[bsglorydays]

Anybody hoping Yost is going to get fired is going to be disappointed. Its not going to happen. People need to stop blaming the manager and start looking at the players who aren't getting the job done, IMO... particularly the pitchers who seem incapable of getting anybody out, including the so-called most reliable pitchers in their bullpen.

 

Weeks 90%

Yost 0%

Villanueva / Wise - I'd like to see something done with Wise at this point, but I'd say its only a 25% chance of happening. Villanueva looks like he could use some time off, too though.

[Ennder]

Weeks should be up again very soon if not today to replace Graffanino.

 

Wise will be fine, he's throwing strikes now which is all he needed to do to keep his spot. He'll be used in lower pressure situations for now I'm sure but I don't think this is a season long problem.

 

CV certainly needs some rest, shutting him down wouldn't be a terrible idea, sending him to the minors doesn't really do much if they actually still let him pitch.

Bringing up a fresh arm to absorb some innings for the bullpen wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.

 

Yost isn't getting fired just like Pinella isn't getting fired for the Cubs poor streak lately. Neither of these teams were expected to be powerhouses, I'm sure the people in charge knew that they would struggle to be much more than 3 or 4 games over .500. While getting swept by the rockies looked ugly this week you have to keep in mind it was just 7 bad innings of baseball. They just came off what should have been a sweep of another playoff level team at home. The road woes continue and they do need to figure out what is going on but I doubt they fire Yost over that.

[JohnBriggs12]

Guys moved out:

 

 

Villanueva has options. He doesn't need to be DL'd. He should be optioned to get his confidence back.

 

Spurling should be DFA'd. He's not part of the solution ergo he's part of the problem.

 

Graffanino to DL.

 

Wise to DL or DFA.

 

Replacements:

 

Weeks: Cross your fingers and hope we see the real Rickie Weeks

 

Gross: Lefty bat a must off bench. Counsell is not enough. Would allow a rest once in a while for Hart.

 

Dickey: Stretched out veteran who could eat innings and allow them to go back to normal 12 man staff. He's been pretty good at Nashville since June 1.

 

McClung: Worth a try. Can't be worse than Spurling or recent versions of CV and MW.

 

Other moves: Capuano to bullpen, replaced by Parra in rotation. Can't figure why this move hasn't already been made.

[Ennder]

Other moves: Capuano to bullpen, replaced by Parra in rotation. Can't figure why this move hasn't already been made.

 

Parra's innings are as much of a concern as Gallardo's.

 

Capuano has gone 27.1 IP with a 3.95 ERA and .703 OPS against in his last 4 starts. He got beat up a bit right after coming off the DL but he is not the problem at all right now.

[LS Brewer]

There is no chance that Wise is DFA'd, nor should he be. He has proven to be very good in the past and will prove to be valuable in the future. He is going through a bad spell right now and will figure it out. He should be placed on the DL to get it back together.

 

Weeks will be up today.

 

Optioning Villanueva is not a bad idea...or just finding a way to give him two weeks off would be nice.

 

Yost isn't getting fired just like Pinella isn't getting fired for the Cubs poor streak lately.

I agree with this statement. Ned is the manager for a first place team. I don't think he should be or will be fired.

 

Weeks called up 99.5%

Wise DL'd or sent down DL 55% DFA 1%

Villanueva DL's or sent down 60%

Yost fired 0.5%

[Mr QL]

The difference between Pinella and Yost is that Pinella isn't losing games because of poor in game decisions. I want any of you to give me a reason to think Yost is a good manager and will be the one to take this team to the next level because I can't think of any. He's not all of the problem but he's certainly not helping it so why not get rid of him? It's not like the team would be worse without him. We don't owe him anything. If it's not now then it will be next season when the team does the same thing. I don't want to miss out on the postseason because of this fool.

[naivin]

The difference between Pinella and Yost is that Pinella isn't losing games because of poor in game decisions.

Oh I get it...Since you don't like Yost, the Brewers are losing because of the decisions he makes, whereas the Cubs are losing because why? Players aren't executing? Makes sense.

 

[Ennder]

Is that really true though, the Cubs fans hate his bullpen usage about as much as the Brewer fans hate Yost's. They constantly complain about which marginal guys get starts (murton etc). They are always complaining that Marquis is still in the starting rotation.

 

I don't really see much difference.

[JohnBriggs12]

"Parra's innings are as much of a concern as Gallardo's."

 

Parra is 24. Gallardo is 21. If Parra is inserted into the rotation and averages 6 innings per start, he'd end up the year with right around 180 innings. If he figures to be in the rotation in 2008, he has to be able to handle an even larger load than that.

 

"Capuano...is not the problem"

 

Really Ender? That was pretty selective statistical analysis. Had you gone last 5,6,7 or last 2 or 3 starts his numbers would be nowhere near the mediocre ones you sighted, but he had one good start 4 starts ago so you chose last 4 starts.

 

How's this for Capuano:

 

June: 6.55 ERA

July: 5.45 ERA

Aug: 7.36 ERA

 

No Brewer wins in any start since May 7th. And he's not a problem?