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You know what I hate most about all of this?

 

Aaron has been lost in all of this. This should be a celebration of him as much as it is a celebration for the record. But he's almost an afterthought on all this. To me, that's almost a crime and I will forever hold Aaron high because what he did when he did it was far more significant than just about anything any ballplayer could do today.

 

I don't agree

With all the talk about Bonds,Aaron has got plenty of media attention and respect for what he did.

 

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I hope when Favre breaks the record he just leaves the field like that too. No need to play out the game when you are strictly going for records.

Seriously, I think you are being way too harsh here. Bonds gave the Giants the lead with the homer, so it's not like he didn't help his team (he had a hit earlier, too). Plus, they typically pull him for a defensive replacement late in games, anyway.

 

 

They had a little more than half the game left? I am not being harsh here in this instance.
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Why bring Favre into this? At last check he's still out there for every game, and every play that he's physically able to. If he's playing for the record books, he's sure doing a lot more than he needs to. I'm not going to further open that can of worms, so that's the last I'll speak of that part.

 

Congratulations to Barry Bonds, I guess. 756 is a pretty big number. My dislike of him is not as extreme as some others, but it'll be nice to see him out of the game at last.

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You know what I hate most about all of this?

 

Aaron has been lost in all of this. This should be a celebration of him as much as it is a celebration for the record. But he's almost an afterthought on all this. To me, that's almost a crime and I will forever hold Aaron high because what he did when he did it was far more significant than just about anything any ballplayer could do today.

I don't agree

With all the talk about Bonds,Aaron has got plenty of media attention and respect for what he did.

 

 

Not many people get 30+ year old documentaries rebroadcast like "The Long Winter of Henry Aaron" recently was...I even heard Tom Brokaw on Rome's show talking about Hank and plugging the special. I think we all got out of it what we chose to get out of it. I choose personally to pretty much ignore Bonds, and instead found pleasure in things like examining how the game has changed thru the different eras of the "great" sluggers, whether it was Ruth playing during segregation, Williams losing prime years to wars, Aaron/Mays/Mantle playing in VERY pitcher-friendly conditions during the bulk of their careers, or the modern effects of advances in travel and medicine, both legal and illegal.
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I have to agree with everyone that said that Hank Aaron is a class act, he's always been one of my heros of the game because of that, but weather your a Barry Bonds fan or not you really have to admit that he deserves the accolades that he's getting. Maybe he did do steriods, maybe his body did bulk up, with that being said, you still have to see the ball, and obviously he's seen the ball 756 times. The only one who is truely classless in this whole situation is Bud Selig. Shame on you Bud.
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Why bring Favre into this? At last check he's still out there for every game, and every play that he's physically able to. If he's playing for the record books, he's sure doing a lot more than he needs to. I'm not going to further open that can of worms, so that's the last I'll speak of that part.

 

Congratulations to Barry Bonds, I guess. 756 is a pretty big number. My dislike of him is not as extreme as some others, but it'll be nice to see him out of the game at last.

All I was saying is Bonds has a lot of talent and he helps teams win games. Clearly he is the best option in LF for the Giants but he left after the 5th inning when it was a one run game. It seems from that, that he was playing tonight's game for the HR record and winning was 2nd. Maybe I am wrong, I have been in the past and will be in the future. The Favre comment was in jest as I don't think Favre would ever leave a close game after he achieved a record.

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Congratulations to the greatest player of this era. And for what it's worth, IMO, the media's constant anti-Bonds campaign (because he doesn't interact well with them) has led to them celebrating Hammerin' Hank even more. Good for Hank I guess, but I don't get what ever happened to impartial media.
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I hope when Favre breaks the record he just leaves the field like that too. No need to play out the game when you are strictly going for records.

Seriously, I think you are being way too harsh here. Bonds gave the Giants the lead with the homer, so it's not like he didn't help his team (he had a hit earlier, too). Plus, they typically pull him for a defensive replacement late in games, anyway.

 

They had a little more than half the game left? I am not being harsh here in this instance.

True. For some reason I thought it was the 7th. At any rate, I have no problem with him leaving the game after one last curtain call. Not that it really will accomplish it, but taking him out will hopefully bring some attention back to the game itself. Plus, the manager may have figured his emotions may take his head out of the game (yeah, I know, he should be a professional, etc., but he did almost break down when thanking his father).

Bottom line is that I don't like Barry Bonds, but he just broke the single greatest record in all of sports. I have no problem with his celebration, his family's celebration, the game being paused, his speech, what have you. It is an exciting moment and there was nothing inappropriate about anything that took place.

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The Favre comment was in jest as I don't think Favre would ever leave a close game after he achieved a record.

However, it should be noted that he had no problem laying down to give Michael Strahan the sack record once that game was in hand. Not to mention that Favre doesn't actually HOLD any records that appear in the NFL Record and Fact Book, except for consecutive 3,000 yd seasons, a stat which is about as meaningless in the NFL now as 500 homers is in baseball.

 

If nothing else, you have to give Bonds credit for keeping his routine...if he truly were a glory hound, I would think he'd want as many ABs tonight as possible to glory in his newly-minted adulation as the HR king. Leaving on his normal schedule lets the focus return to the game at hand, in a weird, ironic-twisty sort of way...

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Best player I have ever seen. Congrats to Barry on breaking the best record in all of sports. And what a horrible job by Selig not being there. That was a great moment though. 756 is a huge number
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Why bring Favre into this? At last check he's still out there for every game, and every play that he's physically able to. If he's playing for the record books, he's sure doing a lot more than he needs to. I'm not going to further open that can of worms, so that's the last I'll speak of that part.

 

Congratulations to Barry Bonds, I guess. 756 is a pretty big number. My dislike of him is not as extreme as some others, but it'll be nice to see him out of the game at last.

I went to a game during the first home stand with the giants with my father and we discussed our feelings about bonds and the record (naturally) and he brought up despite how much people in wisconsin will hate barry for taking the record away from hank because of their views on him using drugs, but Favre used painkillers in the middle of his career to keep himself playing and was addicted to them, yet no one ever talks about that when brining up the records he can/did break. Not that it's even close to the scale of bonds' cheating, but it's something i've wondered what other wisconsin sports fans would feel about.
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Why bring Favre into this? At last check he's still out there for every game, and every play that he's physically able to. If he's playing for the record books, he's sure doing a lot more than he needs to. I'm not going to further open that can of worms, so that's the last I'll speak of that part.

 

Congratulations to Barry Bonds, I guess. 756 is a pretty big number. My dislike of him is not as extreme as some others, but it'll be nice to see him out of the game at last.

I went to a game during the first home stand with the giants with my father and we discussed our feelings about bonds and the record (naturally) and he brought up despite how much people in wisconsin will hate barry for taking the record away from hank because of their views on him using drugs, but Favre used painkillers in the middle of his career to keep himself playing and was addicted to them, yet no one ever talks about that when brining up the records he can/did break. Not that it's even close to the scale of bonds' cheating, but it's something i've wondered what other wisconsin sports fans would feel about.

Again, don't want to make this Favre discussion but I can see the similiarites. I consider this on par with those players that used greenies during their careers. Both tainted the game as they had to go to extreme measures to keep their edge but not on the scale of steroids, if Bonds took them, in my mind. Again just a matter of opnion.

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but Favre used painkillers in the middle of his career to keep himself playing and was addicted to them, yet no one ever talks about that when brining up the records he can/did break. Not that it's even close to the scale of bonds' cheating, but it's something i've wondered what other wisconsin sports fans would feel about.

 

Woah, woah, woah. Favre was a junkie for part of his career but working in mental health, I can tell you that being addicted to narcotics DOES NOT make you a better athlete and cannot be compared to taking steroids. Period. If anything, it would hurt you significantly in a sport as fast as football as narcotics cause psychomotor retardation.

 

That being said, I didn't nod my cap to Bonds earlier so I will do so now. *nod.

 

I will not make another comment on this subject and I hope that the national sports media can now focus on baseball.

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Question

 

Does anyone think Bonds regrets using steroids and causing the backlash it created to his career and record,or he doesn't care about the backlash and is fine with taking steroids since it helped him get a hallowed record that he very likely wouldn't have reached without help from the chemist?

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I find it odd that every time Bonds was vying for a major home run record, the first at bat of his that I actually watch when he was trying to get the single season, and now all-time, home run records end up being the one. I apologize to the world for not tuning in sooner.
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I'm really amazed that he's been able to function as well as he has during the past several years amid all this hate. Can you imagine the stuff that's yelled at him every single road game? And the almost daily ripping he gets in the media?

 

I don't think I could handle it. He is just loathed by so many people--its incredible.

 

He's certainly worthy of some of the criticism. The steroid use and the way he's handled himself in the past has opened the door to SOME of this--but the thought that he's able to perform at that level while so many people really hate him, that's really something. It would require a mental focus and determination that I don't think I could handle. . .just the constant grind of being hated all the time. . .

 

I'm glad that his son got to share in this moment with him. That would be a really terrific thing for a kid to experience with his dad.

 

I'm watching the coverage tonight, and Bonds seems humbled by the whole thing. He was an almost likeable guy in his interviews and the press conference.

 

I know, it's late and in the morning, I'll scratch my head, wondering where all this Barry-love came from--but for tonight, I actually feel happy for the guy for accomplishing something that nobody has ever done before.

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I'm not really a Bonds fan, but I don't hate him like so many other people do. I'm basically indifferent to him. Do I think he did steroids? Yes. Do I think most of the rest of MLB players during the same time were using steroids? Yes. I think it's unfair to hold him above everybody else just because he's setting records. I don't know if anyone can prove that he wouldn't have hit the number of homers otherwise, but it's a moot point now. Steroids were a part of MLB and that's what they have to live with now. It's hard to single someone out because of use just because it's Bonds. He's not Henry Aaron, he's not as classy, he's not as modest, he's more of a showoff, but he's now the home run king. If people think that the dark cloud hanging over Bonds, as Bud has reminded everybody in each of his released statements, will diminish or tarnish the record, I doubt it. The game will persevere. Baseball survived the Black Sox Scandal. It survived Pete Rose. It's survived countless work stoppages and the cancellation of the World Series. Bonds and 756 will be no different, and I'm OK with that. I'm not going to hate on the man tonight. It's his night and his accomplishment and congratulations to him.
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