Bynres signs extension with Dbacks

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3 years 30 million. I thought the talk of a discussion was going to cease until the offseason, but appearently not.

[bjkrautk]

Why I'd rather have 1 more year of Geoff Jenkins, Exhibit A.

 

Byrnes is 31, and is having his career year. He's hitting ~ .035 - .040 better than his career averages (which carries over to his OBP and SLG). Just last year, he was a sub-.800 OPS corner outfielder, a near perfect match of his career numbers. Does anyone really think he'll keep this production up over the life of the deal?

[Diskono]

Ouch. What has he ever done to deserve that? Maybe I could understand if he were Bill Hall's age, but...he's 31!

[monty57]

I have to agree with bjkrautk. Spending is once again going to skyrocket, and I believe that we will see Jenkins as the left-handed part of a LF platoon once again next season. Jenkins' salary isn't that out of line anymore for his production. Pair him with a league-minimum righty that can hit lefties reasonably well, and I think we'll be alright until LaPorte's debut.

 

Byrnes is a fan-favorite and is putting together a good season, but $10MM/year seems like a lot of money for what he's done over his career. I cringe when I think of what Prince and Braun are going to receive even in their arby years.

[JoeHova]

Bad move for the D'Backs, especially when you consider their glut of corner outfield types. They should have let him walk. I would be devastated if the Brewers had signed Byrnes to this contract, it just seems to make very little sense to sign an over-30, below-average offensive corner outfielder to a contract like that. His defense is also said to be atrocious, so I'm not sure what kind of asset he'll be when Carlos Gonzalez is ready.

[HebrewHammer]

These owners have to learn to control themselves a bit more. 30 million for this guy is just plain stupid. He;s a good player, but maybe a 3 year/20 million dollar deal?

[pitchleague]

Yeah, I had heard that Byrnes and his agent had said publicly that they were done talking until the off-season. Guess not.

 

Bad deal, but the fans love him like they loved Gonzo.

[jlau20]

I would imagine that Byrnes and his agent were done talking until the offseason...

 

until the D'backs management was spending Monday night barhopping and came up with 3yr/30m.

[BrewCrewForever]

I had no idea Byrnes was that old already. Wow.

[Fatter than Joey]

These owners have to learn to control themselves a bit more. 30 million for this guy is just plain stupid.

 

I don't know -- this will sell a lot of tickets and jerseys. I don't doubt this isn't a value deal, but I suspect that the Diamondback fans will be happy.

[Never Outhustled]

The worst part of this deal is they gave it to him for the career year he is having, but his numbers have always fallen off dramatically in the 2nd half, so his great year might not even end up being a great year.

[JoeHova]

Bad deal, but the fans love him like they loved Gonzo.

 

The difference is that Luis Gonzalez was truly a great player during his time in AZ. Byrnes is a scrub 4th outfielder type having a career year. I'm not sure how much the fans will love him once that becomes clear.

 

[pitchleague]

 Year Ag Tm Lg G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG *OPS+ TB SH SF IBB HBP GDP 
+--------------+---+----+----+----+---+--+---+----+---+--+---+---+-----+-----+-----+----+----+---+---+---+---+---+
<span style="" class="full">2003 27 [url=http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/OAK/2003.shtml]OAK[/url] [url=http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/AL_2003.shtml]AL[/url] 121 414 64 109 27 9 12 51 10 2 42 71 .263 .333 .459 113 190 0 2 4 2 3
</span><span style="" class="full"> 2004 28 [url=http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/OAK/2004.shtml]OAK[/url] [url=http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/AL_2004.shtml]AL[/url] 143 569 91 161 39 3 20 73 17 1 46 111 .283 .347 .467 109 266 0 5 0 12 11
</span><span style="" class="full"> 2005 29 TOT 126 412 49 93 24 3 10 40 7 2 32 71 .226 .294 .371 75 153 3 1 0 8 7
</span><span style="" class="partial"> TOT [url=http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/AL_2005.shtml]AL[/url] 111 359 47 83 22 3 10 35 5 2 25 60 .231 .295 .393 83 141 3 1 0 8 6
</span><span style="" class="partial"> [url=http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/OAK/2005.shtml]OAK[/url] [url=http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/AL_2005.shtml]AL[/url] 59 192 30 51 15 2 7 24 2 2 14 27 .266 .336 .474 111 91 1 1 0 7 1
</span><span style="" class="partial"> [url=http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/COL/2005.shtml]COL[/url] [url=http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/NL_2005.shtml]NL[/url] 15 53 2 10 2 0 0 5 2 0 7 11 .189 .283 .226 30 12 0 0 0 0 1
</span><span style="" class="partial"> [url=http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/BAL/2005.shtml]BAL[/url] [url=http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/AL_2005.shtml]AL[/url] 52 167 17 32 7 1 3 11 3 0 11 33 .192 .246 .299 49 50 2 0 0 1 5
</span><span style="" class="full"> 2006 30 [url=http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/ARI/2006.shtml]ARI[/url] [url=http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/NL_2006.shtml]NL[/url] 143 562 82 150 37 3 26 79 25 3 34 88 .267 .313 .482 95 271 2 3 2 5 12
</span><span style="" class="full"> 2007 31 [url=http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/ARI/2007.shtml]ARI[/url] [url=http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/NL_2007.shtml]NL[/url] 113 445 68 135 21 7 17 64 28 6 41 77 .303 .365 .497 118 221 0 3 4 4 3

<font style="font-family: serif;" size="2">I don't know, but I find it hard to find 4th outfield scrub type out of those numbers. His OBP and OPS is nothing to write home about but I'd take it.
Now maybe not at 3yr/$30M but 3yr/$20M definitely. Not to mention his defense is spectacular at times.

To compare, here is Gonzo's numbers over the same seasons:</font><br style="font-family: serif;">
</span>Year Ag Tm Lg G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG *OPS+ TB SH SF IBB HBP GDP 
+--------------+---+----+----+----+---+--+---+----+---+--+---+---+-----+-----+-----+----+----+---+---+---+---+---+
<span style="" class="full">2003 35 [url=http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/ARI/2003.shtml]ARI[/url] [url=http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/NL_2003.shtml]NL[/url] 156 579 92 176 46 4 26 104 5 3 94 67 .304 .402 .532 131 308 0 3 17 3 19 [url=http://www.baseball-reference.com/awards/awards_2003.shtml#NLmvp]MVP-25[/url],AS
</span><span style="" class="full"> 2004 36 [url=http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/ARI/2004.shtml]ARI[/url] [url=http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/NL_2004.shtml]NL[/url] 105 379 69 98 28 5 17 48 2 2 68 58 .259 .373 .493 119 187 0 2 11 2 9
</span><span style="" class="full"> 2005 37 [url=http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/ARI/2005.shtml]ARI[/url] [url=http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/NL_2005.shtml]NL[/url] 155 579 90 157 37 0 24 79 4 1 78 90 .271 .366 .459 112 266 0 4 12 11 14 AS
</span><span style="" class="full"> 2006 38 [url=http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/ARI/2006.shtml]ARI[/url] [url=http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/NL_2006.shtml]NL[/url] 153 586 93 159 52 2 15 73 0 1 69 58 .271 .352 .444 97 260 0 6 10 7 14
</span><span style="" class="full"> 2007 39 [url=http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/LAD/2007.shtml]LAD[/url] [url=http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/NL_2007.shtml]NL[/url] 104 364 58 103 19 2 11 52 6 0 42 40 .283 .360 .437 107 159 0 2 4 3 7</span>

I don't know. Gonzo had some good years but Byrnes hasn't been a sham either. His 2004 season looks pretty darn good so this year is not some "career year". He's always had talent but some pesky injuries (2005 season) have kept him from having completely consistent "career year" numbers every year.

 

I still agree that he's going to be overpaid, but don't say he doesn't deserve it due to a "career year." And even if it was a "career year" and he's being paid for it, well, that's the way baseball economics seem to work--play hard and put up good numbers equals pay raise. Exhibit B: Bill Hall.

[imaji]

I frankly find Byrnes' deal far less preposterous than Suppan's. =)

[DHonks]

I'm shocked by this, as are some Dbacks fans I've spoken with. They dealt Hairston, and now a trade of 2 out of Conor Jackson, Chad Tracy, Carlos Quentin, and Chris Carter seems imminent. I'd happily take any of them for LF next year, especially Carter or Quentin

[bklynbrewcrew]

I wouldnt have given this deal to Byrnes either but some of you that think this deal is bad were loving the Suppan deal which is far worse in my opinion. At least Byrnes is having a very good year this year. Suppan has never had a season worthy of 10 mil a yr.

[endaround]

Thing is as bad as this maybe for Arizona Byrnes likely left at least a year on the table if he would have went to free agency.