09/15/2004 - Brewers (Wes O.) vs. Giants (Tomko & Bonds)

[batman]

I love the softball shift. Bonds is now 0-for-2, and the Brewers continue to pitch to him. Good job, Ned (and Wes)!

 

~Bill

[ja002h]

Who is this pitcher and what has he done with Wes Obermueller??

[batman]

Who is this pitcher and what has he done with Wes Obermueller??

 

It's Roger Clemens, and he ate him.

 

I think.

 

~Bill

[JoeHova]

This is how he's done it all year long. It's the 1 extra inning they try to push him which inflates his numbers.

 

 

yeah, I checked Wes's splits and he has a .700 OPS against in the first 3 innings and a .965 OPS against in the next 3 innings. However, that suggests to me that he sucks.

[950opsLHcatcher]

yeah, I checked Wes's splits and he has a .700 OPS against in the first 3 innings and a .965 OPS against in the next 3 innings. However, that suggests to me that he sucks.

 

That suggests to me that he might be a good relief pitcher. As in, not starting.

[burniebrewer]

We're closing in on Wes' breaking point.

[JoeHova]

yeah, except his OPS against in the first inning is .821. He must be really good in innings 2 and 3 though.

 

 

link:

sports.espn.go.com/mlb/pl...&year=2004

[ja002h]

So basically he should be a relief pitcher who throws a simulated inning before going into the game...

 

.. Wes cruising thru 5...

[DHonks]

I love the softball shift. Bonds is now 0-for-2, and the Brewers continue to pitch to him. Good job, Ned (and Wes

 

I was at the Dbacks-Giants game on Sunday, and the same thing happened, although he didn't run as hard as last night and tonight. Still, three games in a row he's been thrown out from short rightfield shows how hard he hits the ball

[batman]

More good work from Mr. Obermueller. I'd really like to see him have success, but at this point it's just not there yet, at least not on a consistent basis. His stuff is good, speaking particularly of his sinking fastball, and if he can throw strikes and get groundballs, he'll have a long and productive career.

 

That's all in the future, though. Tonight he's just got to get some more outs!

 

~Bill

[DHonks]

His stuff is good, speaking particularly of his sinking fastball, and if he can throw strikes and get groundballs, he'll have a long and productive career.

 

Not to mention that he also throws that sinking fastball at around 92-94.

 

Come on Russell, a run would be huge

[burniebrewer]

Uh-oh. Hit to lead off the 6th. Here we go again....and now Bonds is up.

[ja002h]

Well, it won't be Wes that gives up #700...

[950opsLHcatcher]

I'd give Wes one more batter. If Snow reaches or even hits the ball hard, Obie should be pulled.

[burniebrewer]

C'mon people, Wes is TRYING to throw strikes. Quit booing. He's at his limit.

[DHonks]

damn, I don't remember Obermueller's changeup ever moving like that before. If is sinking a ton, and dropping away from lefties. Looks a lot like Doug Jones' changeup

[batman]

That's 'cause he's scared out of his mind. The poor guy looked like he was almost trembling.

 

And there's the limit, huh? Your prediction was one batter too late, Toby.

 

Boo.

 

~Bill

[burniebrewer]

The fateful 6th inning again. When will Nedley learn?

[ja002h]

Ergh. WES CAN PITCH 5 INNINGS AND 5 INNINGS ONLY!!

 

edit: To be fair, he hadn't even thrown 80 pitches yet, and I agree more or less with letting him stay in for Snow, but it's just so darn frustrating for it to happen over and over and over. I think he's either gotta NEVER be allowed to go more than 5, or he needs to just be left out there until he gets out of an inning, no matter how bad it gets. It seems like it's more a mental thing at this point, and once a couple people get on late in the game he's just toast.

[950opsLHcatcher]

Who knew J.T. Snow hit homers?

[Duff Man21]

Who knew JT Snow hit[/i]?

[950opsLHcatcher]

WES IS DONE, NED.

[DHonks]

not sure anyone has mentioned the stat from these games, but Darren and Bill keep pointing out that the Giants have scored each inning Bonds walks, and they have a losing record in games he doesn't walk.

[batman]

They should just use De La Rosa and Hendrickson as "buddies" with Obermueller. Four or five innings of good baseball is valuable... it's like a really good long relief pitcher. If you can get four good innings from Wes and two or three from one of the aforementioned duo (or Liriano, perhaps), then it's just like having a "regular" starter.

 

That's if we don't have a superior option to Wes in the rotation next year, which I hope we do. But if he can be a consistently good pitcher for two-five innings, then he's still going to be pretty valuable. And hopefully he can eventually get over this hump where he gets shelled in the fifth or sixth EVERY TIME, and then he'll be really valuable.

 

Or maybe he won't. I dunno... there's just so much promise there when he pitches well for a few innings in a row that it's disappointing to see him fall apart all the time.

 

~Bill

[batman]

Fact or Fiction:

 

"I respect their opinion," Yost said. "The front office has never, ever, even one time since I've been here, called down and said, 'Do this' or 'Do that.' They haven't even suggested anything."

 

Interesting.

 

~Bill