03/06/05 - Brewers (Helling) at Royals (Greinke) 2pm CST

[scoop53714]

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I say trade them both and let Nelson/Hart platoon in Right

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Not so fast chief. You have to watch these guys play in person before trading Jenks or Overbay. Hart and Nelson are no where in the same universe with Jenkins or Lyle right now. As I said in my previous post....Nelson and Hart are light years behind Nelson Cruz.

 

After watching Hart and Nelson play this spring I would estimate a platoon with that tandem in 2005 in Milwaukee would hit around .220 with 10-12 bombs and maybe 50 rbi.

 

If Cruz, Nelson and Hart all play in AAA together. Cruz will run circles around both.

[batman]

Russell not so good today. Otherwise, bueno.

 

Oh, and Big Cal is a monster. In a good way.

 MILWAUKEE (9) AT KANSAS CITY (6) MILWAUKEE AB R H BI KANSAS CITY AB R H BI B Clark cf 3 3 3 0 D DeJesus of 2 0 0 0 D Krynzel cf 2 0 0 0 B Hunter cf 3 0 1 0 R Weeks 2b 2 1 0 0 A Berroa ss 3 0 0 0 M Erickson 2b 2 0 0 0 L Ugueto ss 2 0 1 0 P Fielder 1b 3 2 3 3 M Sweeney 1b 3 0 0 0 W Helms 1b 2 0 0 0 C Pickering 1b 1 1 1 0 C Lee dh 3 2 3 4 M Stairs dh 3 0 0 0 J Cirillo ph 1 0 0 0 T Graffanino ph 2 1 1 0 R Branyan 3b 3 0 0 0 T Long lf 3 0 2 0 T Durrington 3b 1 1 1 0 E Brown lf 2 0 0 0 D Miller c 3 0 1 0 A Nunez rf 3 1 1 0 M Johnson c 1 0 1 1 P Phillips c 2 1 1 0 C Magruder lf 3 0 0 0 M Teahen 3b 2 1 2 0 B Nelson lf 1 0 0 0 D Fenster 3b 2 1 1 2 C Hart rf 2 0 0 0 R Gotay 2b 2 0 0 1 E Cruz rf 2 0 0 0 D Hocking 2b 2 0 2 1 B Hall ss 2 0 0 0 A Castillo c 2 0 0 0 S Scarborough ss 2 0 0 0 A Guiel rf 2 0 1 1 TOTALS 38 9 12 8 TOTALS 41 6 14 5 MILWAUKEE 341 000 010 0-- 9 KANSAS CITY 000 020 013 x -- 6 E--R Weeks. DP--MILWAUKEE 1. LOB--MILWAUKEE 3, KANSAS CITY 13. 2B--B Clark 2, M Johnson, D Hocking. 3B--B Clark. HR--C Lee 2 (3) (off Z Greinke). IP H R ER BB SO HR MILWAUKEE R Helling (W,1-0) 2 2 0 0 0 0 0 J Bennett 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 R Bottalico 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 J Santana 1 2 2 1 0 1 0 L Pena 1 1 0 0 2 1 0 C Paronto 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 D Sarfate 1 3 1 1 1 0 0 B Diggins 2-3 4 3 3 0 0 0 R Beltran 1-3 1 0 0 0 1 0 KANSAS CITY Z Greinke (L,0-1) 2 7 7 7 1 3 0 J Gobble 2 3 1 1 0 0 0 K Snyder 2 0 0 0 0 2 0 B Embry 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 S Camp 1 2 1 1 0 2 0 N Field 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 HBP--D DeJesus by J Santana. PB--A Castillo. SO--MIL: R Helling, D Miller, R Branyan, C Magruder, B Hall, B Nelson, J Cirillo, R Weeks, E Cruz. KAN: A Castillo, B Hunter, M Stairs. BB--MIL: R Weeks. KAN: D Hocking, C Pickering, A Guiel, M Teahen. T--3:06. A--4,632. 

~Bill

[brewmann04]

i thought he was going to 2a but if impresses during camp could he move to 3a

[brettac1]

Cruz, you mean? He'll be in AA. No one really knows what he can do outside of some very hitter-friendly parks.

[scoop53714]

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Cruz, you mean? He'll be in AA. No one really knows what he can do outside of some very hitter-friendly parks.

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I will tell you right now that Nelson Cruz is way ahead of Brad Nelson or Cory Hart. No question about it. After watching them all play this week its clear as day. Cruz will put up big numbers this year. Hart and Nelson might be OK but they arent yet in Cruz's league.

[clancyphile]

DHonks

 

Weeks has too much power for leadoff. He's probably a good #3 hitter, IMO.

[brettac1]

No doubt about that, you can't git a guy with 30 HR potential lead-off.

[DHonks]

so he can steal bases, hit for average, draw walks, get on base at an extremely high clip, and you want to keep him from setting the table for guys like Lee, Fielder, or whoever else might be in the lineup? Using that logic, Rickey Henderson would have hit 3rd since he had too much power for leadoff.

 

Yes he's valuable at any spot in the lineup, but as much as I like Krynzel, I don't think he'll be the leadoff guy in 3 years. Maybe Hardy

[homer]

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You have to watch these guys play in person before trading Jenks or Overbay

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And you have to watch a guy play more than one game to say he's the best outfield prospect we have.

[molitor fan]

I just want to echo what scoop said about Nelson Cruz, as when i saw him in Maryvale for those 4 days, he looked like a more polished and even explosive hitter than Nelson or Hart....plus he is built like a brickhouse....others that were watching also noted the same thing when I was there....

 

small sample of viewing yes, but i concur with scoopp from what I viewed

[DuWayne Steurer]

Weeks has too much power for leadoff. He's probably a good #3 hitter, IMO.

 

Rickey Henderson had too much power for leadoff too.

[H0FFY]

"small sample of viewing"

 

This is going too far, isnt it?

 

When we first viewed J-Lo or Halle Berry or Beyonce, how may viewings did we need before we were convinced?

[endaround]

Everyoner thought Jennifer Lopez was a good actress after Oiut of Sight. Now, not so much. See it applies!