July Transactions; Latest: OF Ryan Knox back to AA

[batman]

If Paz and Martinez moved up to Indy, why the need to demote D.J.? Was there another roster move?

 

~Bill

[HonoluluBrew]

Clark wasn't exactly tearing it up at Huntsville, and he is likely being demoted for the remainder of the year to help out High Desert since Belcher went down with his injury and Nelson promoted to Huntsville. They probably didn't promote Prince and Gwynn and Parra to HD because Beloit can and should win the second half and go to the playoffs.

[SenatorShriv]

Perhaps a Prince or Tony Jr. promotion?

 

Parra would certainly be an addition to the awful staff in High Desert. But then again I think that Parra will be on the "Jone's track" of skipping the hitters haven in the desert.

 

They need to give them someone who could be the teams star with Belcher out now and Nelson no longer around. This team would be PATHETIC without someone who can hit the ball!

 

Edit: Never mind. I forgot about the organizations intentions of sending two or three of the teams to the playoffs.

At this point I will completly disregard any box scores or game summaries involving High Desert, unless something miraculous happens there.

[MassBrew]

As mentioned elsewhere on the forums here this morning, LHP Luis Martinez and middle infielder Rich Paz have been transferred to the Indianapolis roster.

 

We believe Indy will have to make a move with one player in some manner today -- to Milwaukee? to Huntsville? We'll see...

 

As for Martinez, the kid who was signed as a 16-year-old in October of 1996 and lost his first 18 pro decision (yes, you read that right), rewards the Brewers' faith in him with a fine AA campaign and a spot on the AAA roster in this, his second "40-man roster" option season. The Brewers can move him up and down right through 2004, if they wish, without worrying about waivers.

[pogokat]

dj clark did not deserve to be sent down...at all...the man was sporting a .380-.390 obp with a .240 ba...thats great...if he had had one hot week with 4 or 5 extra base hits, then his number would have looked much better...

 

as it stands...

 

what are they gonna do with him next year?? send him back to huntsville??

 

i guess his being in high A will lessen the need to add him to the 40 this year...but man, thats kinda crazy

[igor67]

I guess HD needed somebody, but this has to hurt DJ. Has obviously got the OBP skills, he just needs to figure out how to hit for more power outside of HD. Compared to the first couple of months for the guys that got promoted to Huntsville last year I think DJ did just fine. Oh well, we'll just see how it plays out. Does this mean Nelson is going to get more LF time?

[biedergb]

I echo the sentiments about DJ Clark. He has shown good patience, and while he hasn't hit as well, he makes contact. I would have thought Brandon Gemoll would be a better candidate for demotion, seeing as how the two numbers are relatively comparable (Brandon with more power #, but also more K in more AB). This move now leaves Huntsville with only two regular OF (Varner, Krynzel), and HD without a 1B (although Villanueva played some). Just doesn't make sense.

FYI,

 

 AVG AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB *Clark, Daryl, OF ... .244 156 21 38 8 1 2 14 34 46 4 *Gemoll, Brandon, 1B ... .257 323 35 83 21 2 10 50 28 81 6 

[Jose Cardenal]

Unlike most of the posters so far I like the move. Yes DJ Clark is getting shafted but he is never going to be more than a 4th (probably 5th) OF at the ML level anyways.

 

Getting Nelson out of what will be an absolutely horrible team situation in HD and exposing him to a winning atmosphere is reason enough for the move. Getting him a 125 AB's at AA will give him a nice headstart for next year when he is back at AA. (remember this is what was done with Hardy, Hart and Krynzel). Also this means he can be sent to the AZ Fall League without using the Brewers one exception for players under AA at 8/1. That exception can now be used on a player like Gwynn, Fielder, Parra or Sarfate.

[MassBrew]

Huntsville Site Press Release Detailing the Moves:

 

www.huntsvillestars.com/s...newsId=233

[squarepusher]

Well, at least DJ will be an adequate replacement for Nelson in Adelanto. He really seemed to thrive in Mavs Stadium, as his numbers were absolutely insane there.

 

Tough to see their only (currently) decent starter get lifted to Huntsville. Very happy for Nolasco, but yow.... Hopefully they'll get Sarfate.

[colbyjack]

Some of these moves are really odd. The new regime came in & said they were going to preach patience with advancing their prospects, with guidelines for each player on how & when they would be bumped up. So, what were Brad Nelson's goals? 160 ABs? More than 10 extra base hits? 1 HR?

 

I think it's clear the organization feels a lot of pressure to get these kids up sooner rather than later. If it weren't for playoff races we would probably see Parra, Sarfate, Fielder, Gwynn, Ramirez & Palmisano all bumped up.

 

And I'm sure moving DJ Clark back down to HD was an organizational move. For as much as we complain about how the Brewers ignore the Mavs, I think they were for once looking out for them in this case.

[biedergb]

Quote:

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Unlike most of the posters so far I like the move

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Jose- I like moving Nelson up. My post was questioning sending down DJ. I thought the younger Gemoll would be a good fit, as he can handle 1B (replacing Nelson), has fewer walks than Clark in more AB, and is younger. Plus Huntsville is down to only 2 regular OF.

 

With regard to vacancy in H.D., I hope one of the elder/rehabbing pitchers from Beloit move up. Sarfate has earned it, but also earned the right to be the ace come playoff time. Ballouli is just coming back from injury, so doubtful. Eric Henderson is rehabbing, and would be an interesting move, since he has already spent time in rookie and low-A ball before. He would really need to be moved up quickly as he will be 24 this September. Just a shot in the dark.

 

Also Tim Bausher has been solid as a closer. But HD has Bystrowski and Backsmeyer for that role.

[squarepusher]

[ Jose- I like moving Nelson up. My post was questioning sending down DJ. I thought the younger Gemoll would be a good fit, as he can handle 1B (replacing Nelson), has fewer walks than Clark in more AB, and is younger. Plus Huntsville is down to only 2 regular OF. ]

 

Brad was actually playing LF for HD.

[igor67]

Here's a fun question. What if Nelson does well straight out of the gate for Huntsville? Say continues to hit .300 and his returning power keeps on coming back. Does he move with the rest of the Huntsville squad to Indy next year?

[squarepusher]

I would say he does move to AAA with the rest of the squad. Jenkins's contract runs out in 2004. So if they can, they will, assuming there are no outside influences (trades, FA)

[deeswan]

Some of these moves are really odd. The new regime came in & said they were going to preach patience with advancing their prospects, with guidelines for each player on how & when they would be bumped up. So, what were Brad Nelson's goals? 160 ABs? More than 10 extra base hits? 1 HR?

 

I think it's clear the organization feels a lot of pressure to get these kids up sooner rather than later. If it weren't for playoff races we would probably see Parra, Sarfate, Fielder, Gwynn, Ramirez & Palmisano all bumped up.

 

I don't see these moves as a reaction to pressure to get kids moved up. In Nelson's case, he had an injury that prevented him from getting the number of PAs that the organization thought he would get in HD. To me, that's no reason to not move him up if they think he's ready. Also, the top prospects in an organization are going to get treated differently than the 'middling' ones and Nelson is clearly a top prospect. It makes sense to me to give him ABs in AA ball this year and let him start there next season, as the jump from A to AA is generally regarded as the toughest step in the promotion ladder (at least that's what I've heard).

[Al the Thinking Man]

The top 20-25 prospects need to be thought of as "outside the box", with no concern for anything except their development. I have to believe Prince is still in Beloit because of his age, not to win a playoff berth. I certainly hope that's the case, at least.

[pogokat]

possible that brad nelson is moved to huntsville to get a better grip on lf in a normal environment???

 

this could signal him and prince on the same team next year...

 

i dont see how nelson could be moved to AAA next year...he needs more time

[tlpc4]

Maybe we can get some insight into the DJ move by crystal balling the 40 man roster for next year. I think DJ has to be on the 40 man for the Brewers to keep him. Maybe the numbers have been crunched by management and DJ wasn't making the cut for a spot on the 40 man.

[SJF2006]

Richie Sexson is also a free agent after next season and as much as I would wish he would stay with the prospects here and the winning and higher pay of another team the chance of him leaving is too high to take a chance and not have someone ready if necessary. I was hoping they would bring up Prince to replace Nelson.

[futurefan]

I believe that Brad was moved up to allow him to qualify for the AFL. With his limited at bats this year he would benifit more form the AFL season than another month at HD. He will still get his at bats in Huntsville and another 2 months in Arzona. The Question is if any of the big 3 will be moved to Indy to ready them for next years season. All 3 were in Huntsville at seasons end last year. Playoffs are great but development is better.

[squarepusher]

[ Playoffs are great but development is better. ]

 

I think Melvin believes playoffs ARE development. You can't teach winning, you can only experience it.

[pogokat]

i think they will all spend a good amount of time in indy..i suspect some of them will spend more than just 2004 there..

 

theres nothing wrong with that..some of these guys are really young..and id definitely rather get them up when they are ready to produce like major leaguers...ala hank blalock 2003..and not hank blalock 2002

[Al the Thinking Man]

Just to clear something up, Clark is our property until 2007, unless someone takers him in the Rule 5 draft. We do not "lose him" if he is not added to the 40 man, we just risk him being taken.

 

I'm not really worried about that, so for now, let's hope he pounds the ball in HD and readies himself to begin '04 in AA.

[FVBrewerFan]

Now things are getting interesting. Will Liriano be next to move up to AAA? Also, this has me thinking of other possibilities. Will guys like Martinez, Ford, Liriano, and Jones get a shot at being in the Brewers rotation in 2004? I'm not saying ALL of them but I'll bet one or even two of those guys will start the year in Milw. Afterall, pitchers going from AA right to the majors isn't exactly shocking anymore. Hendrickson and Diggins go to AAA. Parra and Sarfate go to AA in 2004 than Parra goes right to Milw in 2005? How about Nelson playing half a yr in AA then moving to AAA, allowing Fielder to move to AA after half a season in HD? Should be very interesting to watch.

 

All in all, I'm in favor of being more aggressive than conservative. Especially with pitchers. Unless they're totally dominant they'll take some lumps whenever they finally make it to Milw.