Linebrink acquired for Inman/Garrison/Thatcher

[valpocrewsader]

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Bob and Jim are talking about it now, DM will be on sometime soon to talk about it.

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Thanks for the heads up!

[brettac1]

Overall the prevailing sense is that AA players are more important than doing what it atkes to stabilize the big club that has a realistic chance of making the playoffs.

 

 

The question is whether the player they acquired actually "stabilized" the Brewers. I'm absolutely fine with trading prospects for good players, it's part of the deal.

 

But Linebrink wasn't doing a hell of a lot of stabilizing since San Diego just decided to demote him from setting up a few days ago. He isn't a shoo-in to make this team markedly better. The bullpen was already pretty solid.

[danzig6767]

Padres must believe in Thatcher more than we do because it looks like he will be joining their big league team.

 

Wouldn't it be a kick in the face if Thatcher pitches better than Linebrink the rest of the year and they get Inman on top of it.

[jloos19]

But Linebrink wasn't doing a hell of a lot of stabilizing since San Diego just decided to demote him from setting up a few days ago.

 

That's why I'm wondering why he had to give up so much to get him? You'd figure after that move maybe we could throw them Garrison, Thatcher, and maybe someone like Hammond to get him.

[tyguy20204]

Yeah, Inman is great but in no way is he an A- prospect. I'd even hesitate to give him a B+.

 

I do think some people are overestimating the prospects that we are sending out, however I also agree that Linebrink seems like a questionable target.

 

We'll just have to wait and see, there isn't anything else to be done.

[jjfanec]

i have the same feeling i did last year when we traded carlos lee. didnt feel like we got enough and wondered why we had to give up cruz as well.

i trust melvin but that doesnt mean i am not confused

[Brewer Fever]

Well, then, work harder to get over it -- people can be into whatever they want. Also, I hate when people make reasoned, intelligent criticisms of a trade and somebody has to come back and berate them as if they're criticizing the very concept of making a trade

 

Well, I hate when people aren't capable of hearing the other side, so I guess we're even.

[Madtown Bomber]

According to the talking heads on radio even if this is a rental and Linebrink would leave via FA the Brewers would receive a compensatory pick at the end of round one and possible a second one depending on something I didn't quite catch.

 

So it is quite possible that we can replenish the draft picks. Inman has struggled at AA and there has been many in the Brewers organization who though Thatcher had reached his ceiling. Don't know much about Garrison but I respect that Doug made a good move here.

 

Look at it this way, the Brewers now have a case closed, hands down best bullpen in baseball...PERIOD!

 

Now if Doug wants he can focus on getting a bat. This is a good day for the Brewers! We needed to make a deal the day before the rookies reported to Packers Training Camp.

[dpapo]

I don't have a problem with Melvin trading away minor leaguers to help the team and if we were getting the Linebrink of a couple years ago or say Gagne from Texas then I would like this trade much better. However a couple things worry me.

One, why would a team in a dogfight give up one of it's bullpen arms for 3 minor leaguers that probably aren't going to be of help to them this year.

Two, the following from the article that was linked here,

 

"Linebrink's blown save on Monday -- his sixth of the season -- was the latest in a series of missteps for the right-handed reliever, who has already allowed as many home runs this season (nine) as he did all of last season.

 

Linebrink is tied with three other pitchers for the Major League lead in blown saves."

 

Right now I would have to say that Linebrink is the 5th most effective pitcher in the bullpen behind Cordero, Turnbow, Villy and Wise.

 

But, I want nothing more than for Linebrink to come in and pitch lights out. And we'll at least get back a high draft pick for him at the end of the season.

 

EDIT: Interesting to see that the Padres are going to put Thatcher on the big league roster. On the vesting option thing, whatever it is the following was mentioned on JSOnline,

 

"Linebrink is a free agent after the season and thus considered a "rental" in the trade business. But Melvin noted he is a Type A free agent, meaning the Brewers would get draft picks in return should he go elsewhere after the season."

[And That]

Padres must believe in Thatcher more than we do because it looks like he will be joining their big league team.

 

I was actually about to pontificate that the Padres would probably be bringing up Thatcher in the near future. That future is very near.

[Brewer Fever]

The Yankees, Mets, Red Sox, and many other teams have been hot after Linebrink for years now. He has a few bad outings and suddenly we think we can or should get him on the cheap?

[brettac1]

Look at it this way, the Brewers now have a case closed, hands down best bullpen in baseball...PERIOD!

 

I don't think that's the case. The Padres do. People are vastly overrating Linebrink here, like someone else said - he's the 5th most effective reliever the Brewers have.

[Team Canada]

Inman has struggled at AA

 

I'd have to review his latest starts, but it seems to me that he's settled down after pitching with mono.

[danzig6767]

"Linebrink's blown save on Monday -- his sixth of the season -- was the latest in a series of missteps for the right-handed reliever, who has already allowed as many home runs this season (nine) as he did all of last season.

 

That's my other issue,we not only gave up this much for a rental,but a rental who isn't pitching well.

[ajgodson]

There's a change of mindset that has to take place. Brewer fans are so used to going for "moral victories" like winning trades, etc. The opportunity is there for "actual victories" this year.

 

The Brewers lost two games in the past week because of Balfour. The bullpen was a need. This is what teams in playoff races do.

 

They gave up Inman, a possible 4-5 starter, a minor league lefty reliever (who is 25), and a guy in the low minors. Here's the crux -- the Brewers don't need any of those. The rotation won't have holes for a while -- they can't even find a spot for Villy or Gallardo right now, let alone another young #5 starter. If Thatcher was ready to be the man, he'd have supplanted Shouse by now. You have to give something up to get something.

 

Don't forget, if Linebrink leaves, the Brewers will have a first rounder and a sandwich pick to.....draft a replacement for Inman and Garrison.

[greeg35]

So this is what it feels like to try to win now...Geno is going to love this trade.

[brettac1]

The Yankees, Mets, Red Sox, and many other teams have been hot after Linebrink for years now. He has a few bad outings and suddenly we think we can or should get him on the cheap?

 

It's more than a few bad outings - he's been pretty mediocre all season. His K rate is down dramatically, his walks are up a tiny bit, and his HR are way up. He's missing fewer bats and getting hit hard. That's why the Padres pulled him from setting up and traded him immediately.

[davebobn]

So who is getting demoted to make room for Linebrink? Balfour? Spurling?

[BuckyTuba]

http://www.fahad.com/pics/world_most_expensive_sandwich.jpg

 

mmmm..... Sandwich picks!

[Sheets4theHOF]

I know this has been pointed out before--Looking at the game by game logs, linebrink puts up a lot of quailty outings.

[Madtown Bomber]

Doug said Linebrink is a type A free agent.

 

Said that he is the first in the big leagues in holds the past 3 seasons and Hoffman doesn't have all these saves without Linebrink getting him the ball with the lead.

[IslandsAC]

I think there's something wrong with me because as much as I like players that get traded away, there's usually about a 15 minute span until I forget about them (Maybe 20 minutes for Obermueller). I won't even pretend to know the first thing about this trade... I'll just sit back and watch some baseball, complacent in my ignorance http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif

 

Go Brewers + Linebrink!

[RobertR]

Yeah, I don't get it either. Three prospects for a struggling reliever seems like an awfully steep price. I probably wouldn't have blinked if the same package had netted Chad Cordero, for instance.

 

To me this looks like a trade that has a very good chance of not improving the Brewers chances at all. Unless there's another part to this deal, I can't say I like it.

 

Robert

[bklynbrewcrew]

They gave up way way way too much for a reliever having a bad year. I have faith in Jack Z to use the draft picks wisely but this looks like a panic move. I think Inman has better than 4-5 starter potential. I am in no way a fan of this trade. I would have much preferred sending away Gwynn than Inman. This trade could really come back to bite us in a few years.

[Madtown Bomber]

Doug just said no decision has been made on who to send down and none would be made until Linebrink reports Friday.