Linebrink acquired for Inman/Garrison/Thatcher

[OCFletcher]

I think with more seasoning, Inman could make a decent starter in the bigs and if he's converted to a reliever like CV, Inman could make a better reliever than Linebrink for years to come.

 

We can't wait for seasoning out of Inman. This trade is for the present. Linebrink is going to help us now.

[shelmark]

I don't care too much about the prospect thing, but Linebrink is overrated. His numbers last year were nothing special and he's pitching in an extreme pitchers park. I have no problem with it as I was not enamored with the prospects, but I think we need to keep this in perspective and realize Linebrink is just above average.

[brewers255]

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I don't care too much about the prospect thing, but Linebrink is overrated. His numbers last year were nothing special and he's pitching in an extreme pitchers park. I have no problem with it as I was not enamored with the prospects, but I think we need to keep this in perspective and realize Linebrink is just above average.

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Last 3 years his road numbers were better than home numbers.

[SeriesFinale]

Linebrink is going to help us now.

 

But how exactly? And at what cost is a completely valid question.

[True CryM]

This is more disheartening than anything else. I loved seeing Thatcher make it all the way back from Indy ball, and Inman is a prime time pitcher. Here's to the comp and sandwich picks making this deal worth it.

[Sepolevne]

It seems pretty even to me. Thatcher is the replacement, Inman is in case Thatcher doesn't work out, and Garrison is the long term prospect. The biggest question mark to me is Inman. If he blows out his arm tomorrow, the Brewers are geniuses, if he goes to the Hall of Fame, this is a bust trade. I think we'll have to wait a few years to see how this one works out.

 

It seems strange that the Padres would sell at all, being a game and a half up on the Cubs in the Wild Card.

[shelmark]

Interesting article in San Diego paper today, stating that Bud Black was taking Linebrink out of the setup role due to his recent poor outings. Lose your job in the morning and your team in the afternoon. Tough day. They must not think much of him if they would deal him in a pennant race.

[splitterpfj]

The Padres certainly got top value, but I like the move.

 

Linebrink is definitely a solid addition, and the picks that will come when he walks will restock the farm.

[And That]

Linebrink is going to help us now.

 

No, he's going to help us in a few days, when his wife gives birth and/or his Greyhound ticket gets him there.

 

This trade is horrible.

[Katuluu]

This trade is horrible.

 

Yet your avatar remains unchanged.

 

Hmm...

[UeckerAddict]

Everything being said about Inman are the same things I used to hear about Nick Neugebauer. Haven't we been waiting 15 years to win?

[gregmag]

We are in a pennat race, we dont need prospects anymore. We are usually the ones selling players now were adding proven veterans. Please get over it.

 

Good God, if one more person tells people who dare to disagree with him to "get over it" -- geez. Please get over yourself, preferably somewhere far away, and learn to spell "pennant" while you're there.

 

For the umpteenth time, nobody (that I've seen) objects to this trade on the ground that we categorically shouldn't trade prospects. I love trading prospects. I'd trade my mom if she was a prospect. I'd even trade her for relief help, really. But if she was my top prospect, I wouldn't trade her and two other less-beloved-but-still-useful members of my immediate family for somebody's castoff grandma.

 

"We dont [sic] need prospects anymore . . ." Right, because we don't want to compete after this year, and we certainly don't want to be able to make good trades when they come up. Hey, you know what? Let's throw away all our money too! We already have stuff, so we don't need money!

 

Greg.

[RyDogg66]

Inman is only the top prospect because Gallardo, Parra, Braun, and Hart have all been promoted.

[Bernman23]

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Inman is only the top prospect because Gallardo, Parra, Braun, and Hart have all been promoted.

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Inman was certainly a higher rated prospect than Parra at the time of his promotion. Also, I'm not sure if Hart ever reached the 80's or higher on BA's top prospect list. I know Inman did. And Hart shed his prospect status last year. Why not go as far back as Gary Sheffield then. He's only our top prospect because Gary Sheffield was promoted http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif

[Pedro]

We keep saying Inman was the top prospect (or near that level), but did the Brewer organization think he was their top prospect?

 

I suspect not.

[badgerfan.tgf]

Geez, for once the Brewers are acting like contenders by getting a player that will help them this year and everyone is up in arms. I get the feeling that some people on this board would rather have us trading verterans for prospects just so we can continue to stockpile minor league talent. Tell me exactly how many pitchers in the Brewers organization over the past 10 years have come up and had solid careers? There is about a 10% chance that Inman will be a stud...IMO, more than likely he'll be an average major league starter.

[RyDogg66]

Or we could stop acting like Inman has mastered all minor league levels and was going to be in the rotation sometime this decade.

 

Next year Inman starts in AA, in 2009 he starts in AAA, perhaps a callup. If he makes it that far, he is a #3-#5 starter in 2010.

[aracko]

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We have a chance now

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sorry got cut off by arguing wife. REALLY irritating me now.

[chuckiehacks]

Keith Law weighs in (Insider)

Paraphrasing mostly:

 

-Padres add a lot of organizational depth.

-Linebrink has been homer-prone this year, likely to get worse outside of Petco.

-Linebrink might not be a Type A, that determination is not made until after the season, using 2 years worth of data. A bad 2 months might push him out of Type A.

-Inman projects as a 5 starter, maybe a 4. Average fastball, below-average command. "Stuff doesn't match numbers."

-Garrison = Longshot.

-Thatcher going straight to SD, "the Padres' bullpen won't miss a beat for the change in pitchers."

 

Money Quote:

"Adding a reliever was the right move for the Brewers, but even without surrendering a major prospect, the Brewers gave up a lot to acquire 20 innings or so of a guy who's pitched very poorly in favorable circumstances this year."

[TCSM]

I'm happy to see Linebrink on the team seeing this was a lot of peoples wishes, but for Inman let alone 2 more prospects!! cmon, to much for someone that will be a free agent after this year.

[mikemercury]

Trust the mustache people.

 

He has yet to lead us wrong. Untill he does, I trust his judgement and like this trade.

 

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[Never Outhustled]

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This trade is horrible.

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Can I ask how horrible you'd rank it? Is it as horrible as you thought drafting Ryan Braun was?

 

Give Doug melvin at least the slightest benefit of doubt. Maybe Will Inman is quite as good as you think he is, or maybe he is great, but then why can't we replace him with draft picks higher than where Inman, Yo Gallardo, and JJ Hardy were drafted?

[brettac1]

He has yet to lead us wrong.

 

Jeff Suppan

Johnny Estrada

 

Very, very wrong.

 

It's amazing that to this point, the Brewers two big offseason pickups have been terrible, yet they are in first place. There were very few of us saying to stand pat with what they had and they could win the division, but I think that was correct. They would have won the division last year had they stayed healthy, even with the Lee trade.

[sbrylski]

Well, I can usually talk myself into liking what Melvin does.

 

I had thought Linebrink had another year on his contract originally, its too bad he doesn't.

 

I also thought:

 

Gwynn < Inman, Garrison, Thatcher

Otsuka > Linebrink

 

The most dissapointing thing about this trade by far is not giving up Inman, but its not landing a guy that can be our closer in '08. That could cost us money, wins, or Ben Sheets.

[Never Outhustled]

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the Brewers two big offseason pickups have been terrible, yet they are in first place.

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Vargas might very well be better than Doug Davis, and as much as I dislike Estrada, he is better than Dana Eveland.

 

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The most dissapointing thing about this trade by far is not giving up Inman, but its not landing a guy that can be our closer in '08. That could cost us money, wins, or Ben Sheets.

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True, but not getting into the playoffs would cost us far more than a single players salary in setting next year budget. Teams that make the playoffs see a major financial windfall from it.

 

Just look at this trade as a means to raise the money to keep as much of our talent as possible. what would you rather have, a couple of prospects, or a budget $10 million bigger?