Censorship on the boards

[pogokat]

I think you really are getting into unecessary censorship if we are going to start warning or editing posts based on the presumed "tone" of the message..

 

Some people are condescending, some peaople are jerks...pretty much so long as they aren't directly insulting you, cussing or being incessantly repetetive, i don't think anything should be done..

[bjamesw22]

unless the person who's crying foul was actually the initial offender. If the initial person is condescending, then other people are condescending to that person as a result, it's hard to fault the 2nd party.

 

Definitely true, but you have to admit that I have been MUCH better. And if you would go back and look, besides the first 2 when you told me they sounded condescending which I changed immediately, I have not caused any problems. And the point there is that you told me and helped me learn what is percieved condescending and I fixed that. I think others need that help also is all.

 

Also, if you look back at any of the threads that would possibly be in question you would find that I did not start, nor did I even become condescending. I even got a couple messages in my ezinbox telling me they were at fault and apologized to me. I appreciated that from those people.

 

In the past, most of my comments were never meant to sound as they did. It was just the way it came out. I have definitely been more conscious of it and have improved greatly and I think you'd agree. I have even gone back and re-worded stuff mid-message to be careful. I thank you for making me aware so that others do not take me wrong.

 

Of course, remedying that situation means that the first person must recognize when they were being condescending or baiting, and that's been some of the problems we've had in the past.

 

Admittedly correct, but the fact of the matter is that I am trying to rid myself and others of the causes of these problems. I nor anyone else should have to avoid conversations because certain people are in them being condescending seemingly looking for a fight. I don't know how throwing in a low blow and sticking out your chest within or at the end of a post positively contributes to the board. It is snide and flares tempers.

[brewerjamie15]

bjames-

I think you're a morally upstanding guy and that you're just looking for equality for all. I do believe however that you're fighting a lost cause. I think that if somebody is being insulted or slighted somehow you should let them deal with it, period. No reason to be getting yourself into hot water because person A is a jerk towards person B.

When people feel the need to insult other posters because of ideas that differ from theirs, it makes the person doing the insulting look pretty small to the rest of the board and they will lose credibility quite quickly.

I'm all for the job the moderators do around here, but if we as a whole can just learn to take things with a grain of salt and not automatically say something back to them that is flat out insulting, the moderators would not have to make "judgement calls" nearly as much.

I also think that if someone gets somewhat out of hand we don't need a third party coming into the thread and whining about it. People just need to scroll down to another post and help the thread steer back into the correct direction.

I guess what I'm saying is third parties coming into a stupid flame war only creates more anger and then the mods have to step in.

I suppose the moral of this whole story is if "A" and "B" are arguing it's a good idea to "C" your way around it.

[pogokat]

If you are mad at someone, send them an email...or something...it doesn't have to be dealt with on the boards...we aren't nanny's

[bjamesw22]

It doesn't have to do with being mad at someone. It has to do with degrading people for the sake of making yourself look tougher. It has to do with people who have nothing more to say so they get frustrated and insult others leading to threads being locked or changing topics because of condescention.

 

It's like someone poking you in the head whenever you watch your favorite show (a Brewers game of course). Yeah, you can ignore it for a while, but it starts becoming agitating the longer and longer it goes on. And you shouldn't have to go somewhere else to watch the game.

 

Thanks for all your thoughts gentlemen. I'm glad there was an "open forum" to talk about some of these issues. It's good to see where others are coming from.

[rluzinski]

The moderators do less "censorship" here than many other message boards. Even when threads get out of hand they are usually just locked, almost NEVER deleted. Most things going on here are very transparent.

 

In the end moderators have to make judgement calls; some might not be as popular as others and some might be the "wrong" choice. Overall I think these boards are policed very well, however.