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Brian, I honestly don't understand....those are facts.

 

I'm going to call you on this one. Don't try to tell me you don't understand. You may not be making stuff up to make Branyan look bad, but in your own convuluted way, you are presenting facts in an attempt to make him look bad. Why? Are you still trying to convince those that liked Branyan that he's worthless? Give it up already.

 

BCU, you've made it readily apparent several times that you hate the way Russell Branyan plays the game. Just answer this question honestly...why did you start two seperate threads on Russell's performance in Tampa Bay? To me, there is only one way you can answer that question, and your answer will likely lead to your banishment from this site.

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PeaveyFury Biloxi Shuckers

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Seems pretty clear to me that if the first, "positive" thread was locked, that the 2nd one probably shouldn't have been posted in the first place, and it shouldn't be a shock that it was locked as well.

 

And if there's serious concern about this thread being locked because it was negative about Branyan, there's no real case to be made since the 'positive' one was as well.

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[ I guess I don't see how it's baiting. ]

 

Saying "admit this, so I can ban you" smacks of entrapment to me. I understand that you're just trying to get him to admit what everyone else on the site already knows, but not so we can say "you're going because you're a troll"... because he's NOT a troll, it's just this one particular issue where I think he's got something that he won't let go.

 

[ Brian, you know as well as I do what BCU's goal in creating those Branyan threads was. I'd just like to see some accountability. ]

 

No, I agree here. He's just taking the loophole approach to try to weasel out of admitting that he's got a big grudge against the pro-Branyan people.

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Alright seriously, I knew the second Branyan thread would get locked....but at the same time I didn't think the first one would. He hit his first home-run...why can't that be recognized. I look at every major league box score every morning....it's not like I am searching for Branyan's box score. The first thread was something positive....it was not to get anyone riled up. Branyan is someone of interest on this site, whether you like him or not. I thought it would be a good idea to track his atbats through his own thread because I was accused last year of just pointing out when he failed....and I was all for that.

 

Ralph, for you to think I have anything against you or that any of this Russell talk is directed towards you is crazy. To be honest with you, I didn't even remember you were a Russell fan....maybe that shows how much attention I pay to your posts. Two people stick out that I really do respect on this site when it comes to my disagreements with Russ, that is brett and rluz and they haven't said one word. But for whatever reason Ralph, you find it as an attack against you. I lost interest in you and your posts the minute you lambasted the brewcrew review last year.

 

And as and added note Brian, thank you for keeping your cool about all of this. I appreciate that fact that understand it is just this one issue with me and that you allow me to post on other subject matters.

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Ralph, to you to think I have anything against you or that any of this Russell talk is directed towards you is crazy. To be honest with you, I didn't even remember you were a Russell fan....maybe that shows how much attention I pay to your posts. Two people stick out that I really do respect on this site when it comes to my disagreements with Russ, that is brett and rluz and they haven't said one word. But for whatever reason Ralph, you find it as an attack against you. I lost interest in you and your posts the minute you lambasted the brewcrew review last year.

 

Lamblasted? Give me a break! http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/eyes.gif Go back and read that thread again. I offered them honest criticism, which they asked for. They are the ones that were immature about it, taking my criticisms of the show as an insult, and coming back at me attacking me personally for no real reason.

 

What do my thoughts on how professional or unprofessional the Brewcrewreview was run have anything to do with this thread? It appears that the show has taken what I said to heart, because they've made the show infinitely better than it was at that time.

 

Obviously, if you are bringing up my posting past, you haven't "lost interest in me and my posts".

 

Personally, I could care less what you think of me, my posts, or anything having to do with me. That's not the point here. I asked for accountability, and you have yet to give it. That's the one and only issue.

 

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Alright seriously, I knew the second Branyan thread would get locked.

 

So you created a thread that you knew would get locked and create hard feelings, just so you could come into the issues forum and make yourself into a martyr? Seriously?

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What about the Alex Sanchez comments on this site...why are they acceptable?

Are you serious? Or is this a weak attempt to dart out of a corner?

Sanchez is a different animal. He was shaky on the field, rumored to be a cancer in the clubhouse, has a positive drug test on his resume, and was replaced by Scott Podsednik who proceded to finish second in ROY voting. The bottom line is that the unanimous feeling on this site was that Sanchez needed to be traded and that Podsednik was a vastly superior player - nobody was sad to see him go, though some may have been upset that we didn't hold out for more.

That Sanchez is in no way a polarizing figure, compounded by the fact that nobody has gone out of their way to rip him makes this completely different than the Branyan case. Yes, If Sanchez finished a season with awful numbers, refused to play, got into a public fight with a teammate/manager, etc there would be a Sanchez thread. I cannot, however, remember a thread started to rip one week's performance or a single mediocre (or great) game.

"Well, everyone feels like they can say Glendon Rusch wasn't a great player here, why can't I say Capuano sucks?"

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and rluzinski said he prefers Koskie over Branyan, it opens a hole in the "OPS rules" argument.

 

Provided that was his aim:

 

1. OPS is a very rough measure of individual offensive worth. All OPS's are not created equal, since the not making outs can be just as (if not more) valuable as hitting for power.

 

2. OPS does not consider defense, obviously. Koskie is the superior defender without question.

 

3. OPS does not consider health. The biggest knock on Branyan, IMO, was not his propensity to strikeout but rather his ainability to stay healthy. A player who is hurt is worth nothing to his team.

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Are you guys being serious......

 

Mothershipconnection....what is wrong? I was just curious to see who had a higher career OPS and Brian politely gave me the answer. I guess I can never ask a question since I will be accused of trying to stir the pot.

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2. OPS does not consider defense, obviously. Koskie is the superior defender without question.

 

3. OPS does not consider health. The biggest knock on Branyan, IMO, was not his propensity to strikeout but rather his ainability to stay healthy. A player who is hurt is worth nothing to his team.

Those are biggies, IMO. Matt LeCroy can put up a higher OPS behind the plate than most catchers, but does anybody wanna watch Matt Lecroy play catcher regularly? Obviously, OPS isn't the end-all be-all because there are other issues surrounding a player such as those cited above, whether or not he's a Milton Bradley, defensive versatility (i.e. Hall can play more positions than Koskie or Cirillo), age, and contract.

 

Mothershipconnection....what is wrong? I was just curious to see who had a higher career OPS and Brian politely gave me the answer.

Well, strictly from a response-cost angle, checking their career OPS would be easier and quicker than posting the question and returning to find the answer. That kinda indicates that you wanted the numbers posted here to prove a point that has already been made and accepted by almost everyone here. We aren't talking about a stat you need to search for or know how to calculate yourself.

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Wow... I was bored and just read through the last two threads about this stuff... wow.

 

I don't think anyone truly "worshiped" 3TO, Ginter, Kinney or anyone else there have been vigorious debates about. Heck that is part of the fun of being a fan, is finding novelty players and celebrating them. Looking for an underdog to passionatly support through thick and thin is one of my favorite aspects of following baseball. I hope that reactions and obvious vendettas such as displayed by BrewCityUnit don't jepordize peoples willingness to have "man crushes" or be an avid supporter of a less then stellar player.

 

Despite excessive love he was given on this site for several years, I don't think anyone here truly believes that Khalid Ballouli is going to be a consistent MLB All-Star. I don't feel the need to constantly post his ERA or injury history because people are just having fun following his development.

 

BrewCityUnit... my advise is to let it die man. Even if you think you've been wronged or treated unfairly. Take one on the chin and ignore it.

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Great post Shriv. I agree that sports would be no fun without underdog cult heroes to pull for. From guys who only do one thing well like Rob Deer to guys who don't look like athletes a la Brooks Kiechnick to fat guys who dominate roid freaks like Davis Wells, those oddities are what makes sports interesting. I'd rather cheer for John Jurkovic (one of my all-time favorite Packers) than a slightly-better primma donna any day.
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