Locked threads

[BrewCityUnit]

Brian how is that baiting? It is simply stating the truth. The people I have had good discussions with about Russell thought he would suceed with his new team. There is an interest in Russell no matter what the motive is? I gave him props for hitting his first home run the same way I mentioned his 4 k's in one game. What is wrong with that? It is facts...not opinion. Would it be different if Russ was batting .300 (or even .200 for that matter) with 5 homeruns. Why is everyone so sensative on this matter?

[Brian the Automator]

Give me a break. We've had this discussion before.

[BrewCityUnit]

I am being serious....I don't get it. Just because he is having a bad season, doesn't mean his name can never be brought up. Would you lock a thread if he hit 3 home runs in a game and someone mentioned it on this site?

[Brian the Automator]

[ Just because he is having a bad season, doesn't mean his name can never be brought up. Would you lock a thread if he hit 3 home runs in a game and someone mentioned it on this site? ]

 

I've told you before how I feel about "vendetta" posting. You're only doing this because you're angry about how the Branyan situation was handled last year. And if Branyan homered 3 times in a game (even though it's far more significant than 4 K's in a game) and a guy with a pro-Branyan agenda started a new thread about it, I'd lock it.

 

Let it go.

[Team Canada]

I think the biggest problem is the creation of a new thread just to point out a specific set of AB's. It would make more sense as an update to a continuing Branyan thread, rather than an "in your face, Branyan lovers" new topic...

 

 

I think it would be easier to just start a Russell thread and track all of his games since we talked about doing that last year. Would anyone be interested in that? I know I would

 

This is the most recent Branyan thread.

[pogokat]

why can't it just die?

 

I mean seriously, do you think maing endless points about branyan makes the site better? Do you think keeping this conversation alive forever will make brewerfan a better place? Vendettas and endless repetition kill conversation.

 

I no longer care about branyan...and i couldn't be happier. Join me.

[BrewCityUnit]

The reason everyone is so sensative about the Braynan thing is because maybe the people that thought he was VASTLY OVERRATED are right....but we will never get that here on this site...instead threads will get locked and the topic will go away because it can't be defended anymore. I am not the only one that feels this way. If you don't agree with the "right" people on this site, then you are not respected. That is why I rarely post on this site anymore...so if I want to stick it to the people who were so sure Branyan was going to suceed, they deserve it the same way I deserve it if Braynan would hit .300 or hit 30 home-runs. But I won't have to worry about that because it will never happen.

[brettac1]

He wasn't "OVERRATED" - some people thought he had value, and some didn't. No one ever, ever said he was a great player. If they did, they were likely joking. I don't know how you can say he "hasn't succeeded" after 30 something AB's.

[Brian the Automator]

[ he reason everyone is so sensative about the Braynan thing is because maybe the people that thought he was VASTLY OVERRATED are right....but we will never get that here on this site...instead threads will get locked and the topic will go away because it can't be defended anymore. ]

 

Don't confuse a cult following with actually thinking a player should be a long-term starter with the team. I think that's what you're doing, here.

 

[ If you don't agree with the "right" people on this site, then you are not respected. That is why I rarely post on this site anymore... ]

 

If you don't agree with the majority of the people on the site, it's simply logical to think that the majority of the people are going to disagree with your posts. If you sound like you're whining, it's only logical to think that people aren't going to respect you. I take your non-Branyan posts very seriously, and always respond to them in a respectful manner.

 

[ so if I want to stick it to the people who were so sure Branyan was going to suceed, they deserve it the same way I deserve it if Braynan would hit .300 or hit 30 home-runs. But I won't have to worry about that because it will never happen. ]

 

That's you're whole problem, right here. You think someone's "keeping score". If you're driven by the urge to "be right", then you're really not interested in having an open-minded discussion on topics, and that's what i'm hoping everyone here is looking to do.

 

EDIT: You'll notice that I haven't called you out in a new thread on how Zach Duke's doing this year vs. Prince Fielder, even though that was somewhat of a heated discussion late last year. I have no intention of doing so, because "I told you so-ism" is incredibly lame

[temke]

i think this thread right here is why branyan threads get locked. people are bitterly divided about the guy and petty arguments about him always seemed to ensue.

 

again, i think we might see the lock on the locked thread!!

[BrewCityUnit]

Brian, your right, I thought Duke was the next Glavine (I guess he still could be) and didn't expect him to have these types of struggles....so I was definately wrong on that one. I think for me the Braynan topic is just funny because of the split on this site. Believe me when I see him go yard, I wince because I know I might hear about it from people on this site. At the same time, when I look at the box score and see him strike out 4 times, I get a chuckle out of it. Nothing is personal....I truly believe that if we ever hung out together, a lot of us would be pretty good friends. I know the easy thing to do is let it die, but the Braynan threads were fun threads as long as you understand the meaning behind them. Russell Braynan is the reason why baseball is so great.....because everyone can look at the same player and form complete opposite opinions about him.

[Southwest Brewer]

Chalk me up as the one neutral person on Branyan. I don't care what he does really and didn't understand how he could be worth so much arguing. Always fun to read though.

[mothershipconnection]

Believe me when I see him go yard, I wince because I know I might hear about it from people on this site. At the same time, when I look at the box score and see him strike out 4 times, I get a chuckle out of it.

Actually, nobody has done that yet, not even me, because though I pray to Russell before bed, I'm not an ass and I know one game means nothing. You, however, have started TWO threads.

If you don't agree with the "right" people on this site, then you are not respected.

No, if you're a stubborn little baby who repeatedly does things that are against the rules and then cries about being a martyr, you won't get any respect. After the first thread was locked, you still started a second, then you started this thread to cry "poor me". In addition to receiving no respect, trolling will get you banned, something I have a feeling you'll eventually find out about.

[madbad2000]

What I think is funny in this whole debate is that Brewerfan.net as a whole has somehow been linked to being Branyan lovers. I'm a staff member and contribute to the site in more ways then posting. I do not like Russell Branyan. The guy has massive power and that's about it. If you post a negative Branyan thread, guess what...I probably agree with you. The topic has been discussed ad nauseum for well over a year and it's behind everyone (well should be anyways).

 

The problem that is coming out more and more is that people are feeling like they are being singled out because of a so called "Old Boys" society here at Brewerfan. Guess what, it doesn't exist. New members are more then welcome. Heck, we wouldn't go through such great lengths and costs (money, time, etc) to bring new people here if we didn't want new people. It would be just as easy to have a password protected site and invite-only forums if that were the case.

 

If you are feeling singled out, send Brian an email to webmaster@brewerfan.net and I guarantee he'll respond and act professionally through the whole thing (as long as you do). The only thing we ask for here at Brewerfan is to have a civil discussion on the Brewers. This is a family site as Brewer fans come in all sizes and ages. We could care less about what your ideas are on the Brewers as long as you discuss/defend them in the proper manner. Locking threads is to cut down on repetition and to stop a thread from going downhill. We've been doing this for a long time, it's not a new thing. We welcome everyone to the Brewerfan.net family.

[BrewCityUnit]

Believe me, I do not feel singled out....that is not the issue.

 

 

Great post mothership connection.....you sure have garnered my respect with an attitude like that. If you want to call me an "---" and a "stubborn little baby" than more power to you. I think you might just be a little too sensitive buddy.

[madbad2000]

BCU I edited your language. Once again, family board...that includes curse words.

 

Responses like this don't garner much respect from anyone. The best method is to just ignore comments. Shooting back like this doesn't make you come across any better. It is only the self fullfilling prophesy. I know it's hard but turning the other cheek does work. I know I still have to work on that at times as well.

[Brian the Automator]

[ BCU I edited your language. Once again, family board...that includes curse words. ]

 

In fairness to BCU, mothership used the term "ass". While it's not a banned word, I generally frown on any type of name calling.

[madbad2000]

Honestly I didn't even read motherships post. I think it should be banned though.

[Brian the Automator]

[ I think it should be banned though. ]

 

I think it's pretty borderline... The larger problem though, is that ezBoard will simply replace any occurence of ass with @#%$. Given the large number of legitimate useful words that contain the letters a-s-s in sequence, we can't blanket-ban it anyway.

[1992casey]

I remember Brian posting last summer that if a word's common on TV (PG rated) and the filter doesn't catch it, its occasional and judicious use is OK. I believe 'ass' prompted that comment. I don't have a problem with that.

 

For BCU's benefit, I'll repeat something I suggested in another thread. If you have an inkling that a thread you want to start might be locked, send a private message to a moderator and let him help you frame it, or let him direct you to an appropriate existing thread.

[Ralph Wiggum]

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Great post mothership connection.....you sure have garnered my respect with an attitude like that. If you want to call me an "---" and a "stubborn little baby" than more power to you. I think you might just be a little too sensitive buddy.

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I agree...great post mothership...and I'm not even being sarcastic.

 

BCU, I've had run-ins with you in the past on this subject. It seems now that you are gloating just for the sake of gloating every time Branyan has a poor game.

 

Branyan hasn't been a Brewer for over a month. In that time, I haven't heard 3TO mentioned more than maybe once or twice on this site. Every time it's brought up, it's by you, usually again pointing out how happy you are that he's no longer a Brewer. Your latest attempts at bashing Russell have been even more underhanded, as they are blatent attempts to "call out" supporters of Branyan. I have a feeling, since I've been one of the most vocal against your opinions on the subject, that these posts were blatently aimed at me, hoping to start an argument. Unfortunately for you, I didn't bury my nose in your bait pile. Branyan is gone, and I'm happy to have the more-effective Mr. Koskie in his place. I'm sure you agree, so why even bring it up?

 

The funny thing is...I was never never really a huge fan of Branyan. I am, however, a fan of accoutability. Your Russell-bashing posts bring very little of that to the table.

[BrewCityUnit]

Ralph, those Branyan thread's were not directed towards you or towards anyone in particular. Like you, I am also happy to have Koskie here. I have only started two Russell thread's....the first one happened to be when he hit a home-run. That thread was not negative in anyway....I was congratulating him and at the same time stating the facts like is .180 average I think for how much Branyan was discussed on this site, why shouldn't we keep up with what he is doing. Just because he isn't a Brewer doesn't mean we don't care about him. I see continous shots at Alex Sanchez on this site even though he isn't a Brewer. I think it really just boils down to the fact that Russell is getting his chance (again) and not producing and that really bothers people.

[Brian the Automator]

[ That thread was not negative in anyway....I was congratulating him and at the same time stating the facts like is .180 average I think for how much Branyan was discussed on this site, why shouldn't we keep up with what he is doing. ]

 

See, now you've just gone and blown all your crediblity.

[BrewCityUnit]

Brian, I honestly don't understand....those are facts. The same way if he was batting .275. It's not like I am making stuff up to make Branyan look bad.

 

What about the Alex Sanchez comments on this site...why are they acceptable?

[Brian the Automator]

[ Brian, I honestly don't understand....those are facts. The same way if he was batting .275. It's not like I am making stuff up to make Branyan look bad. ]

 

There are billions of baseball facts that are true that you could have chosen to present. You only picked out Russell Branyan because of your obvious distaste for how the "3TO" issue was handled last year.

 

Please don't try to play me.

 

[ What about the Alex Sanchez comments on this site...why are they acceptable? ]

 

I don't remember there being much in the way of Alex Sanchez thread hijacking that ever caused a problem. I think people handled pro and anti-Alex Sanchez debate with a very high level of decorum.