Brewers sign Wade Miley

[torts]

Welcome back, sweet prince

[StearnsFTW]

10 minutes ago, wallus said:

 

I hope he makes the full $5,000,000 this season.

 

Of course it's Nightengale,  so it's probably wrong anyway. 

[JefferyLeonard]

Wow, wow, wow! Now THIS is the type of needle moving signing I have wanted to see. Mark A really stretching that payroll! ?

[Redd Vencher]

18 minutes ago, JefferyLeonard said:

Wow, wow, wow! Now THIS is the type of needle moving signing I have wanted to see. Mark A really stretching that payroll! ?

3.50 ERA 4.12 FIP 4.33 xFIP since the Brewers resurrected his career in 2018. Solid SP at a decent price. This is a good move.

[wibadgers23]

Burnes, Woodruff, Peralta, Houser, Ashby, Lauer, Miley…something has to give.

[brewmann04]

Anyone feeling it going to be Lauer or Hoser with Hiura being traded. 

[wallus]

7 minutes ago, wibadgers23 said:

Burnes, Woodruff, Peralta, Houser, Ashby, Lauer, Miley…something has to give.

Why? We will likely need 8-9 starters throughout the season.

[igor67]

Yep last year was a painful reminder that you can never have too much pitching. Compared to what Suter would have made if we retained him one more year the little bit extra mostly as incentives definitely looks like a very solid value play.

[folly412]

No, there is no need to trade Houser or Lauer.  Have seven or eight starters and you'll be ok when you need five.  Don't and it's the Summer of Jason Alexander all over again...or Small, or Chi Chi's, et cetera. 

 

[Hacksaw Jim Duggan]

I like this signing.  I think the Brewers are better off signing starting pitchers and moving Ashby and Houser into relief roles with occasional starts rather than signing bullpen reclamation projects.  For $5 million the Brewers solidified the starting pitching rotation and added two arms to the bullpen.  Good deal!  

 

[Hacksaw Jim Duggan]

Maybe one more relief arm for the 8 inning role.

[Axman59]

Put him in the pitching lab and Cy Young here we come!

[TURBO]

I will be shocked if Ashby isn't in our rotation on opening day.  I think they will limit his innings this year for certain, but he is going to be a starter, and not a bullpen guy.  He'll be stretched out as a starter from day one imo.

Houser is the guy that needs to go to the bullpen.  He has had success in the role in the past, and it seems to me that he is best in that role.

I just hope they don't mess with Ashby bouncing back and forth in any way in 2023.  Let the kid do what he does.

 

[Hacksaw Jim Duggan]

16 minutes ago, TURBO said:

I will be shocked if Ashby isn't in our rotation on opening day.  I think they will limit his innings this year for certain, but he is going to be a starter, and not a bullpen guy.  He'll be stretched out as a starter from day one imo.

Houser is the guy that needs to go to the bullpen.  He has had success in the role in the past, and it seems to me that he is best in that role.

I just hope they don't mess with Ashby bouncing back and forth in any way in 2023.  Let the kid do what he does.

What is your starting five?

 

1  Corbin Burnes

 

2  Brandon Woodruff

 

3  Freddy Peralta

 

4  Eric Lauer

 

5  Wade Miley

 

 

[wallus]

1 minute ago, Hacksaw Jim Duggan said:

What is your starting five?

 

1  Corbin Burnes

 

2  Brandon Woodruff

 

3  Wily Peralta

 

4  Eric Lauer

 

5  Wade Miley

 

 

1. Burnes

2. Woodruff

3. Peralta

4. Lauer

5. Miley

6. Ashby

[MVP2110]

2 minutes ago, Hacksaw Jim Duggan said:

What is your starting five?

 

1  Corbin Burnes

 

2  Brandon Woodruff

 

3  Freddy Peralta

 

4  Eric Lauer

 

5  Wade Miley

 

 

I think it's very possible they go with a 6 man rotation similar to what they did in 2021

Also think it's certainly possible they use Houser purely as a reliever this year, can deploy him in specific situations that way considering his lack of effectiveness against lefties 

[wibadgers23]

2 minutes ago, Hacksaw Jim Duggan said:

What is your starting five?

 

1  Corbin Burnes

 

2  Brandon Woodruff

 

3  Freddy Peralta

 

4  Eric Lauer

 

5  Wade Miley

 

 

6 man rotation until someone inevitably gets injured.

[jay87shot]

I love this, it allows us to do a lot. This allows us to have a ton of options, we can trade Lauer or Houser if a good deal comes along, put Ashby in the pen and possible stretch him out if/when someone goes on the dl. If Ashby has a really good spring you could even put Miley in the long relief and Ashby in the rotation.

At 3.5 million there isn't a  huge risk for a solid vet if they can stay healthy. The 2nd year option is decent if he does have a great year.

[monty57]

7 minutes ago, wallus said:

1. Burnes

2. Woodruff

3. Peralta

4. Lauer

5. Miley

6. Ashby

They did the six man rotation in ‘21 because they wanted to limit innings after the short ‘20 season. 
 

Doing a six man rotation now takes starts away from Burnes, Woodruff and Peralta and gives them to lesser pitchers. 

[wallus]

1 minute ago, monty57 said:

They did the six man rotation in ‘21 because they wanted to limit innings after the short ‘20 season. 
 

Doing a six man rotation now takes starts away from Burnes, Woodruff and Peralta and gives them to lesser pitchers. 

So are you saying they are going to put Houser and Ashby in the pen or is a trade coming?

[jay87shot]

I haven't looked at the schedule but we should be able to start at with a 5 man rotation (1st 2 times round) and maybe go back to it a couple times throughout the year when we have a couple days of in a week. 

With Miley on board I am thinking Lauer becomes the most likely to be traded. Miley gives us a lefty or two with Ashby in the rotation and with the prices 3/4 starters have been getting he should have good value.

[liveforoctober]

3 minutes ago, wallus said:

So are you saying they are going to put Houser and Ashby in the pen or is a trade coming?

Not sure we need to know the answer to that right now. Plenty of time until opening day. What this does is gives us lots of options as we continue to configure a ball club for 2023. Maybe we start the season with 8 starting pitchers on the roster. Maybe we trade one or two of them in the next 3 months. I would wager that Matt + crew don't know that yet.

We have options now that we didn't have at this time yesterday and for the price, I think Matt did well here. Great problem to fall into.

[brewmann04]

Big point about moving AA and AH to the pen it make us deeper.

[clancyphile]

1 hour ago, wibadgers23 said:

Burnes, Woodruff, Peralta, Houser, Ashby, Lauer, Miley…something has to give.

Ashby to the pen. Here's what he did in 2022: https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.fcgi?id=ashbyaa01&year=2022&t=p

Reliever	0	2	.000	2.79	8	0	2	0	0	1	19.1	19	6	6	0	6	0	23	2	0	1	82	1.293	10.7	3.83

And in 2021: https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.fcgi?id=ashbyaa01&year=2021&t=p

as Reliever	2	2	.500	4.50	9	0	3	0	0	1	20.0	13	11	10	3	8	0	30	1	0	0	81	1.050	13.5	3.75

So, I think, if the Crew wants to win in 2023, Ashby to the pen is a good move. Use him as a long man to keep him stretched out, just in case.

 

[monty57]

23 minutes ago, wallus said:

So are you saying they are going to put Houser and Ashby in the pen or is a trade coming?

Not saying anything other than a six man rotation would cost Burnes, Woodruff, and Peralta about five starts each. That doesn’t seem like an optimal solution.
 

I don’t care how you position the pitching staff beyond Burnes, Woodruff, and Peralta, but those three need to start as much as possible.