Trevor Bauer Reinstated; Eligible Immediately

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

2 minutes ago, Jopal78 said:

Don’t be so naive. You think Bauer is the rare case of a pro-athlete using fame and fortune to get gratification?

He’s a dumbass plain and simple, and a scumbag to boot. That’s why he’s not signed right now. Baseball sells its self as family entertainment. Right now it’s impossible to defend providing “family entertainment” while featuring a guy who made national headlines for choking a woman unconscious in his bedroom. 
 

Like I said, Ray Lewis went on trial for murder, and is in the Hall of Fame. Matt Bush was drunk driving, ran over a man’s head with a car, went to prison and is on the Brewers. In time Bauer will be fine.

The difference is Bauer was a scumbag before the sexual assault allegations came out. I mean, it was to the point where when the allegations did come out, my first thought was "Yeah, that tracks." 

[MrTPlush]

1 minute ago, Jopal78 said:

Don’t be so naive. You think Bauer is the rare case of a pro-athlete using fame and fortune to get gratification?

He’s a dumbass plain and simple, and a scumbag to boot. That’s why he’s not signed right now. Baseball sells its self as family entertainment. Right now it’s impossible to defend providing “family entertainment” while featuring a guy who made national headlines for choking a woman unconscious in his bedroom. 
 

Like I said, Ray Lewis went on trial for murder, and is in the Hall of Fame. Matt Bush was drunk driving, ran over a man’s head with a car, went to prison and is on the Brewers. In time Bauer will be fine.

Didn't say he did or didn't. I don't know. Neither does anyone else because he didn't get charged. He is definitely an idiot, but I already pretty much said that. 

Your last paragraph is simply the point I am trying to make. Plenty of idiots, douchebags, and criminals find themselves on teams just fine. If Bauer somehow does not...I don't think it is because no team wanted to sign him. 

[Jopal78]

6 minutes ago, MrTPlush said:

Didn't say he did or didn't. I don't know. Neither does anyone else because he didn't get charged. He is definitely an idiot, but I already pretty much said that. 

Your last paragraph is simply the point I am trying to make. Plenty of idiots, douchebags, and criminals find themselves on teams just fine. If Bauer somehow does not...I don't think it is because no team wanted to sign him. 

What he did (invite someone to his house for an intimate encounter then choke her unconscious in his bedroom) isn’t really in dispute. It was only whether or not it was agreed upon conduct.
 

Anyways, why the outrage? There’s no collusion here; this is the way it is everywhere in corporate America (and baseball teams are multimillion dollar corporations). Simply stated Bauer isn’t worth the magnitude of negative PR that comes with him. Certainly that negative PR will dissipate in time and he’ll likely be back. 

[nate82]

1 hour ago, jakedood said:

Kaepernick was kept out by the league owners due to using peaceful protest as way to highlight the grievances against himself and his community

This is false.  Completely FALSE.  Kaepernick was offered plenty of opportunities to be a backup QB for a team he rejected every single one of them.  He wanted to be a starting QB for a team and no team saw he was worthy of being a starting QB.  His stats as a QB prove he was not a starting QB.  Kaepernick kept himself out of the NFL it wasn't due to his peaceful protest that is a lie that Kaepernick continues to spread and ESPN likes to claim as true but there is no evidence of this being true at all.

[MrTPlush]

1 hour ago, nate82 said:

This is false.  Completely FALSE.  Kaepernick was offered plenty of opportunities to be a backup QB for a team he rejected every single one of them.  He wanted to be a starting QB for a team and no team saw he was worthy of being a starting QB.  His stats as a QB prove he was not a starting QB.  Kaepernick kept himself out of the NFL it wasn't due to his peaceful protest that is a lie that Kaepernick continues to spread and ESPN likes to claim as true but there is no evidence of this being true at all.

He had like a 90 QB Rating for his career. I find it hard to believe no team thought that could be useful as a starter. His last season his QB Rating ranked #17. Even if you are more of a QBR person that is #23.

Justin Fields is being hailed the savior the Bears have been waiting for and he was basically like Colin K, last year.

[AKCheesehead]

Perhaps a better league blackball comp would be Barry Bonds.  Nobody seemed to be interested in bringing in Baroid after his contract with the Giants was through.  This despite the fact he'd just had an OPS above 1000, the bat could clearly still play.  Nobody wanted the image and the circus.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

2 hours ago, nate82 said:

This is false.  Completely FALSE.  Kaepernick was offered plenty of opportunities to be a backup QB for a team he rejected every single one of them.  He wanted to be a starting QB for a team and no team saw he was worthy of being a starting QB.  His stats as a QB prove he was not a starting QB.  Kaepernick kept himself out of the NFL it wasn't due to his peaceful protest that is a lie that Kaepernick continues to spread and ESPN likes to claim as true but there is no evidence of this being true at all.

Considering the complete and utter crap several teams have thrown out there as their "starting" QBs over the last decade, I don't believe this to be true whatsoever. I really don't see how you could look at that particular situation objectively and not see that Kaepernick was essentially blackballed by the NFL. Kaepernick certainly had stretches where he was not especially great, but he certainly didn't do enough to play himself out of a starting QB gig. 

[nate82]

17 minutes ago, MrTPlush said:

He had like a 90 QB Rating for his career. I find it hard to believe no team thought that could be useful as a starter. His last season his QB Rating ranked #17. Even if you are more of a QBR person that is #23.

Justin Fields is being hailed the savior the Bears have been waiting for and he was basically like Colin K, last year.

He didn't want to compete for a starting QB job he wanted it handed to him.  There were teams that offered him the QB2 spot for the 2017 season and he never accepted any of them. 

Fields is also still on his rookie deal.  Sure if Kaepernick would have accepted a deal closer to a rookie level salary he probably would have received a starting QB offer.  He wasn't going to accept something like that and he wanted top QB starting money.  Would you give Trubisky top starting QB money because Trubisky is basically Kaepernick.

Trubisky's career QB rating is 86.4 and Kaepernick's is 88.9 so a 2.5 difference which is basically saying they are about equal. 

Just now, Ron Robinsons Beard said:

Considering the complete and utter crap several teams have thrown out there as their "starting" QBs over the last decade, I don't believe this to be true whatsoever. I really don't see how you could look at that particular situation objectively and not see that Kaepernick was essentially blackballed by the NFL. Kaepernick certainly had stretches where he was not especially great, but he certainly didn't do enough to play himself out of a starting QB gig

So you would have signed Kaepernick to a top QB contract?  That is what Kaepernick was looking for how is that blackballing?  He did it to himself he wanted top money and he wanted to be a starting QB.  No team in the NFL saw him as a starting QB at the time and they were not going to give him what he wanted.  Kaepernick didn't want to sign to be a backup QB or to take a prove it type of a deal.  Would you sign Trubisky or Mayfield to be a starting QB this offseason?

[Team Canada]

This isn't a thread about Kaepernick, let's get back on track.

[jerichoholicninja]

Barry Bonds is a good comp and it just boggles the mind that no team signed him. I don't know what "media circus" there would have been as he'd been accused of steroids for years before his last season. There almost certainly was some sort of league mandate or collusion against him.

[TURBO]

When you have guys like Kaepernick, Bonds and Bauer, I could not care less if the league blackballs them.  Not only do I not care, I agree with it.

There are certain scumbags in this world that feel entitled, and when you do things that would make an entire sports league want nothing to do with you, and you get blackballed, to me, that is nothing but good old karma.

[jerichoholicninja]

54 minutes ago, TURBO said:

When you have guys like Kaepernick, Bonds and Bauer, I could not care less if the league blackballs them.  Not only do I not care, I agree with it.

There are certain scumbags in this world that feel entitled, and when you do things that would make an entire sports league want nothing to do with you, and you get blackballed, to me, that is nothing but good old karma.

If karma got me millions of dollars and I wouldn't have to work a day or worry about money the rest of my life, I'd take that karma any day.