Suter to Colorado via Waiver claim

[torts]

Thanks for your service, Brett, i'll miss your quick pace and velociraptor demeanor.  I am also convinced you were communicating pitches from the BP during the covid season with your bullpen drum sessions, for which I thank you.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Odd. I figured they'd hang onto him. I think I'm just about done trying to figure out what they team is going to do personnel wise. I consistently think zig, and they zag. 

[wildcat2237]

Weird timing. You would think the Brewers would have wanted that 40 man spot prior to the Rule 5 deadline. 

Unlinke Ron Robinson above, I am not the least bit surprised. 

I see this team trimming payroll wherever possible. Suter was an easy trim. I also think Renfroe and Wong are shipped out. 

[Thurston Fluff]

He was one of my favorite players but I think it was time to move on from a practical point of view. I wish him nothing but the best going forward.

[dlk9s]

Kind of sad. Really fun player, good dude, felt like he should be on the Brewers forever.

 

Also, the length of Brewers games just increased 20%.

[liveforoctober]

Suter to Boushley is going to be a lateral move production wise and will save the club 2.5 million, I like Suter but this move probably had to be made.

[Jopal78]

They must not have been able to trade him for anything, which I suppose  goes to show that despite a solid stat sheet, his projected pay was more than his perceived worth. Hell of a 31st round draft pick though. 

[Brewcrew82]

Yeah, Suter's level of production just doesn't justify a $3 mil. salary, especially for a small-market team such as the Brewers that is trying to remain competitive on a limited budget. We have better, cheaper options.

But I'm not naive enough to think that the team won't suffer at least somewhat from the loss of his presence in the clubhouse. He was one of the mainstays throughout this historical run of success and brought his fun-loving personality with him every step of the way. He will be missed, not just by the players, but by fans such as myself. Best of luck in Colorado, Brent!

[Brewcrew82]

Someone, please do a welfare check on @clancyphile.

[wallus]

The business of baseball can suck sometimes. Good luck Brent.

[Outlander]

1 hour ago, wildcat2237 said:

Weird timing. You would think the Brewers would have wanted that 40 man spot prior to the Rule 5 deadline. 

Unlinke Ron Robinson above, I am not the least bit surprised. 

I see this team trimming payroll wherever possible. Suter was an easy trim. I also think Renfroe and Wong are shipped out. 

It's not weird timing, today is the tender deadline. The Brewers didn't need the space for the rule 5 guys anyway, they never got to 40. They just anticipate using the spots down the road.

[Outlander]

47 minutes ago, Jopal78 said:

They must not have been able to trade him for anything, which I suppose  goes to show that despite a solid stat sheet, his projected pay was more than his perceived worth. Hell of a 31st round draft pick though. 

I don't think that is the case because the Rockies will pay him. If his projected pay was more than his worth than nobody would have claimed him like Boxberger.

[Lathund]

Makes perfect sense as a baseball move, Suter was getting too expensive for his production.

I'm still really sad to see the Raptor go though, seriously one of my all-time favorite players. 31st round pick who throws an 86 mph 4-seamer 70% of the time. And it works. Somehow. And is a really funny guy who seems like a genuinely good person and teammate on top of it. Gonna miss him. 

[igor67]

I can understand and am not bothered by the move, but at closer to veteran minimum prices I would expect Suter will bounce around the league for awhile. Not Jesse Orosco long, but it's not hard to imagine him pitching to 40 either in shorter stints.

[jerichoholicninja]

As a guy who gives up an above average number of hits and doesn't strike many out, I can't imagine he'll do well in Colorado.

[clancyphile]

15 minutes ago, jerichoholicninja said:

As a guy who gives up an above average number of hits and doesn't strike many out, I can't imagine he'll do well in Colorado.

Which could be good because the Crew can get him back for a second stint at a bargain. See Jeff Cirillo.

[CheeseheadInQC]

Really sad to see him go, The Brewers can’t afford to give a long reliever $3 million+, but from the stories you hear, there was perhaps no one whose value to the team outpaced his value on the field more than Suter.

[liveforoctober]

I really hope at some point soon Suter takes on a bench coach role with us if he is interested.

[Austin Tatious]

I always liked Suter and he did yeoman's work here.  Having said that, I think we moved on at the exact right time.

[Brewcrew82]

Really don't understand the "fans" on Twitter who are in uproar over this move and using it to take another shot at Attanasio and the front office. I'm not even sure if the Dodgers would tender Suter a contract at $3.0 Mil. with his declining numbers. He's a great guy and all, but this is a business....

[Jopal78]

1 hour ago, Outlander said:

I don't think that is the case because the Rockies will pay him. If his projected pay was more than his worth than nobody would have claimed him like Boxberger.

Ok, I could be more specific: there is not a lot of surplus value in Suter, as the Brewers were not able to trade him. That is not to say there was no interest in Suter, as he was claimed by a 94 loss team near the top of the waiver priority. 

[Hopper]

Suter in COL might be a bit of a nightmare.

Love the guy, and wish him the best!

[markedman5]

10 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Really don't understand the "fans" on Twitter who are in uproar over this move and using it to take another shot at Attanasio and the front office. I'm not even sure if the Dodgers would tender Suter a contract at $3.0 Mil. with his declining numbers. He's a great guy and all, but this is a business....

Every move they make now is viewed through the “ didn’t they learn anything from the Hader trade? “ prism…….it’s ridiculous.

It’s the first thing Curt Hogg tweeted….

here’s my answer……the message it sends is they are going to try and improve the team next season and thought they could use the 3 million in some other way that will do that.

I mean you would think Suter was Robin Yount or something based on some of the reactions.

he was a nice bullpen piece and a good clubhouse guy……he was here 7 years……nothing lasts forever.

 

[AKCheesehead]

Just for fun, I went ahead and looked at the 2015 post-season prospects ranking, where Clancy being Clancy (and by the way thank you for being Clancy, Clancy) was the outlier with Suter at #1. 

Here's the top 26 from that poll, with each player's career to date WAR and Brewers career WAR (per baseballreference.)

#1 Orlando Arcia 2.8, 2.4

#2 Brett Phillips 4.8, 1.3

#3 Jorge Lopez 0.5, 0.2

#4 Trent Clark (Grisham) 9.0, 0.6

#5 Gilbert Lara highest level: AA .593 OPS in AA 2022

#6 Josh Hader 9.5, 10.5

#7 Kodi Medeiros highest level:  AAA 10.8 ERA 2022

#8 Zach Davies 9.6, 8.2

#9 Tyrone Taylor 4.0, 4.0

#10 Michael Reed -.1, .2

#11 Devin Williams 4.9, 4.9

#12 Clint Coulter highest level: AAA .910 OPS for STL affiliate in 2022 ?

#13 Monte Harrison .1 (miami)

#14 (tie) Demi Orimoloye highest level:  AA in 2021 .635 OPS

#14 (tie) Cody Ponce -0.7 (pit)

#16 Jake Gatewood highest level: AAA (Angels) .700 OPS 2022

#17 Adrian Houser 2.8, 2.8

#18 Marcos Diplan .4 (bal)

#19 Tyler Wagner 0.1, -0.3

#20 Wei-Chung Wang -0.4, -0.9

#21 Victor Roache highest level AAA in 2018

#22 Nathan Kirby highest level AAA 2.74 ERA 2022

#23 Jorge Orgega hasn't played since 2018

#24 Cy Sneed -0.4 (hou)

#25 Yadiel Rivera -1.2, -0.3

#26 Brent Suter 5.2, 5.2 Thank you and good luck to The Raptor!

 

 

[Brewcrew82]

Just now, markedman5 said:

Every move they make now is viewed through the “ didn’t they learn anything from the Hader trade? “ prism…….it’s ridiculous.

It’s the first thing Curt Hogg tweeted….

here’s my answer……the message it sends is they are going to try and improve the team next season and thought they could use the 3 million in some other way that will do that.

I mean you would think Suter us Robin Yount or something based on some of the reactions.

he was a nice bullpen piece and a good clubhouse guy……he was here 7 years……nothing lasts forever.

 

Hogg is not being helpful here for sure. Just feeding the wolves and completely misevaluating the situation.