Sandy Alderson resigns as Mets President

[patrickgpe]

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022/09/mets-conducting-interviews-for-team-president-sandy-alderson-to-eventually-transition-to-advisory-role.html

 

Anyone see any chance that Stearns isn't the Mets team president by Halloween? I don't. Also I do not think that is a good thing. 

[Hopper]

uh oh.

 

[wibadgers23]

Stearns is under contract for one more year but if Mark A knows Stearns to the Mets is inevitable, it might be in the Brewers best interest to work out some sort of trade this offseason. When was the last time an executive was traded and what was the return?

[sveumrules]

21 minutes ago, patrickgpe said:

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022/09/mets-conducting-interviews-for-team-president-sandy-alderson-to-eventually-transition-to-advisory-role.html

 

Anyone see any chance that Stearns isn't the Mets team president by Halloween? I don't. Also I do not think that is a good thing. 

Don’t the Brewers need to make the WS or NLCS or something for Stearns to opt out early after this season?

Whatever the contract details are or aren’t, the organizational infrastructure currently in place is larger than any one person.

If Dave wants to go to the Mets, he’s more that earned that right. If he’d prefer to stay here & try to win one with the deck stacked against him, that’s cool with me too.

[RedStickBrew]

21 minutes ago, wibadgers23 said:

Stearns is under contract for one more year but if Mark A knows Stearns to the Mets is inevitable, it might be in the Brewers best interest to work out some sort of trade this offseason. When was the last time an executive was traded and what was the return?

Theo Epstein to the Cubs comes to mind.  He was traded for a couple of relievers I think.  I could see a similar scenario in this case if Stearns wants to leave.

[MrTPlush]

Did anyone care to actually read the article....or? Alderson isn't even the day-to-day baseball operations guy.

"The team president role is an overhead position, with that individual responsible for impacting both the baseball and business operations of the organization. Alderson is not the team’s day-to-day baseball ops decision-maker, and the incoming hire is not expected to take that role either. Daily baseball operations tasks fall to general manager Billy Eppler, who signed a four-year contract last November. There’s no indication that Alderson’s change will have any impact on Eppler’s job status; Martino writes that Mets ownership has been “pleased” with Eppler’s work thus far, hardly a surprise considering the team is a lock to reach the playoffs and is battling the defending World Series champion Braves for the NL East title."

 

The Mets have won 90 games already and lead their division, I doubt they want anything to do with our president of baseball operations or anyone else's for that matter.

[nate82]

The Cubs traded Chris Carpenter a reliever who had TJ surgery in the same off season and Xander Bogaerts brother.

So the compensation will be just about nothing.

Also this looks to be a title only for Alderson and is not the same position that Stearns has now.  This would actually be a step down from his current position with the Brewers.

[Jopal78]

I don’t know, Stearns is going to be the guy that that traded his all-star closer from a first place club then missed the playoffs. Obviously it’s more complex than that, but that narrative and his players grousing in the media about the move has likely dimmed his star somewhat. Plus in the era of offense he has been unable to field a competent group of hitters for two of the last three years. 
 

Still a good GM, but maybe not the hot commodity he was a year ago. 

[Axman59]

6 hours ago, nate82 said:

Also this looks to be a title only for Alderson and is not the same position that Stearns has now.  This would actually be a step down from his current position with the Brewers.

Alderson could have had all the involvement on the baseball ops side he wanted. He didn't want it given his age and health (recent bout with cancer).

If Stearns went to NY he absolutely could be made the top dog on the baseball side. That said, the Mets are probably pretty happy with Eppler and no longer so impressed with Stearns given the deadline debacle and Yelich's albatross contract.

[Brewcrew82]

7 hours ago, Jopal78 said:

I don’t know, Stearns is going to be the guy that that traded his all-star closer from a first place club then missed the playoffs. Obviously it’s more complex than that, but that narrative and his players grousing in the media about the move has likely dimmed his star somewhat. Plus in the era of offense he has been unable to field a competent group of hitters for two of the last three years. 
 

Still a good GM, but maybe not the hot commodity he was a year ago. 

Yeah. Nobody will want Stearns now that he traded a reliever making $15 million+ and an ERA over 6 for two very nice-looking prospects....And FWIW, if you're going to say the Brewers offense was competent last year, you'll have to give him credit for this year, too, because it's actually scoring more runs/game and virtually identical in the other major categories. 

[patrickgpe]

If Stearns wants to go, the Brewers would be smart to force the Mets to trade for him this offseason rather than just letting him go next offseason. Stearns didn’t have a great trade deadline, (and not rally a good one last season too, but that gets ignored). That being said he has a long track record of success. Arnold would most likely move to a team president role, with really no decision making experience with the him and Mark A hiring an GM. I don’t think thats a great situation. 

[BallFour]

No matter if his stock falling, it has been reported that Stearns and Eppler are really good friends I don't think Stearns really cares about job title if he is working with a great friend in a city he loves, for a team he loves backed by one of the richest people in the world.

[nate82]

2 hours ago, Axman59 said:

If Stearns went to NY he absolutely could be made the top dog on the baseball side. That said, the Mets are probably pretty happy with Eppler and no longer so impressed with Stearns given the deadline debacle and Yelich's albatross contract.

None of those things matter to the Mets ownership group. The Mets ownership would still go out and sign someone to a 10-year $400m contract with Yelich's albatross contract.  

[Robocaller]

16 hours ago, RedStickBrew said:

Theo Epstein to the Cubs comes to mind.  He was traded for a couple of relievers I think.  I could see a similar scenario in this case if Stearns wants to leave.

no player involved in that trade had a major league career.

 

[Robocaller]

6 hours ago, nate82 said:

None of those things matter to the Mets ownership group. The Mets ownership would still go out and sign someone to a 10-year $400m contract with Yelich's albatross contract.  

Ooh, that's an idea. Trade Yelich with Stearns. For a rookie ball lottery ticket.

[wiguy94]

2 hours ago, Robocaller said:

Ooh, that's an idea. Trade Yelich with Stearns. For a rookie ball lottery ticket.

I'm packing their bags first thing in the morning lol. No ill will to Yelich because he's still an above average, dare I say good, player but it's just hard having that contract on the books with the type of production he is putting out.

[torts]

I guess the full no trade clause just escapes some of you ?

[Axman59]

11 minutes ago, torts said:

I guess the full no trade clause just escapes some of you ?

So you think Yelich would rather play in Milwaukee than New York if he had the choice?  ?

[Hopper]

3 hours ago, Axman59 said:

So you think Yelich would rather play in Milwaukee than New York if he had the choice?  ?

Hard to say, however, the magnifying glass in NY would be a lot bigger and stronger than it is here in Milwaukee.

If he continues like he is now, NY would eat him alive, unless of course, they knew exactly what they would be getting.  Management might, but the fans would be expecting MVP Christian Yelich, not I only hit singles Christian Yelich.

[Robocaller]

5 hours ago, torts said:

I guess the full no trade clause just escapes some of you ?

players can always waive any no-trade clause.

[Hopper]

Only let Stearns go to the Mets if they take Yelich and his full contract with him.

[UpandIn]

On 9/16/2022 at 9:40 AM, MrTPlush said:

Did anyone care to actually read the article....or? Alderson isn't even the day-to-day baseball operations guy.

"The team president role is an overhead position, with that individual responsible for impacting both the baseball and business operations of the organization. Alderson is not the team’s day-to-day baseball ops decision-maker, and the incoming hire is not expected to take that role either. Daily baseball operations tasks fall to general manager Billy Eppler, who signed a four-year contract last November. There’s no indication that Alderson’s change will have any impact on Eppler’s job status; Martino writes that Mets ownership has been “pleased” with Eppler’s work thus far, hardly a surprise considering the team is a lock to reach the playoffs and is battling the defending World Series champion Braves for the NL East title."

 

The Mets have won 90 games already and lead their division, I doubt they want anything to do with our president of baseball operations or anyone else's for that matter.

I mean...it's really not that impressive. They bought an AS SS, an ACE and about 9 more players. 

I feel with a reasonable degree of certainty, if you gave the Brewers 160M more to spend...they'd probably have 13 more wins.

Fill those other 47 starts in with Bassit and Scherzer alone and I think we'd be fine.

On 9/16/2022 at 6:22 PM, BallFour said:

No matter if his stock falling, it has been reported that Stearns and Eppler are really good friends I don't think Stearns really cares about job title if he is working with a great friend in a city he loves, for a team he loves backed by one of the richest people in the world.

I am more than a little skeptical of this. That they're friends may make it easier for Stearns to slide into that POBO's job and kinda take over the same job he's doing now, but I can't see him being alright having to run any trades past anyone other than Cohen(who I irrationally picture just chilling at a eyes wide shut party on a yacht at all times, occasionally taking phone calls...because of course it's his party so the no phones rule isn't applicable, and invariably answers "ya, I don't care what it costs, get him").

But...the point, I don't believe Stearns would go there without being the main decision maker. It has literally every other quantifiable thing you could imagine Stearns would want...

There IS another job that may very well be opening up in Gotham that...may be appealing to Stearns if the Mets are happy with Eppler as their head baseball man. Would the former Mets fan run the evil empire?

I'm not all that convinced Stearns would have that Andrew Friedman type success going from small market team that prioritizes player control and then meshes that with the large market, but I think he'd do pretty damn well in either situation.