Putting Yelich on Waivers

[rickh150]

If you were GM, do you put Yelich and his contract through waivers? 

If the team did, I don’t think anyone would bite. However, a big market might engage in the possibility, especially if they believe they could fix Yelich back to 2018/2019 form. And even if they couldn’t, he’s been a fair to avg or even good hitter in 2022.

One side of me says absolutely.  Get rid of that weight of a hefty contract for the next 6 plus seasons. Of course. 

The other part says maybe not. The state of Wisconsin has been left in either an uproar or foggy daize with the trade of Hader, and a move just giving Yelich to a team claiming him would produce so much ridicule of a cheap owner and team. It would be a damage to team chemistry and would ultimately be foolish, especially with Yelich hitting better for the last several weeks, albeit with little power.

Overall, I probably do It just knowing that we have some pitching I’d like to keep around. We also have a few outfielders to plug in this year and especially in 2023 or 2024 from our AAA outfield squad of four.

 

 

[edfunderburk]

I say YES … but doesn’t he have a no-trade clause in his contract? If so - how does that work?

As far as Yelich & Brewers teammates being upset - it might get their minds off the Hader trade ?

[Brock Beauchamp]

24 minutes ago, edfunderburk said:

I say YES … but doesn’t he have a no-trade clause in his contract? If so - how does that work?

As far as Yelich & Brewers teammates being upset - it might get their minds off the Hader trade ?

No trade clauses have no impact on whether a player is placed on waivers and lost for nothing in return. 

[edfunderburk]

2 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

No trade clauses have no impact on whether a player is placed on waivers and lost for nothing in return. 

So … although everyone seems to agree that he is un-tradeable  … he could be placed on waivers & claimed by another team even if he didn’t want to go?

Wow … if (since) that is true, I hope they place Yelich on waivers immediately - Suter too!

[Brewcrew82]

No team is claiming him at his salary. And in doing so, you would piss off Yelich. So, no, there's not really any upside to putting Yelich on waivers. 

[igor67]

I miss the old way of just putting everyone through for the August trade deadline. Given his bounce back I'd think really hard about letting him go if that were the case and with the number of OF prospects we suddenly have in AAA.

[edfunderburk]

20 hours ago, Brewcrew82 said:

No team is claiming him at his salary. And in doing so, you would piss off Yelich. So, no, there's not really any upside to putting Yelich on waivers. 

Why does it matter if an underperforming, overpaid formerly great player is hacked off?

The financial freedom that could be had is worth the risk to me

I understand his contract is HUGE & it would be surprising if someone took a flyer on him

That said - he is a great clubhouse guy & someone with “stupid $$$” may want to add him hoping he could rebound with a fresh start

This would be a DREAM scenario for me … I would love to see how Milwaukee could reallocate those funds in 2023 & beyond

I know the $ is peanuts compared to Yelich lengthy & high-$ contract, but I was stunned that Colorado picked up Lamet’s contract this week

[Brewcrew82]

3 minutes ago, edfunderburk said:

Why does it matter if an underperforming, overpaid formerly great player is hacked off?

The financial freedom that could be had is worth the risk to me

I understand his contract is HUGE & it would be surprising if someone took a flyer on him

THat said - he is a great clubhouse guy & someone with “stupid $$$” may want to add him hoping he could rebound with a fresh start

This would be a DREAM scenario for me … I would love to see how Milwaukee could reallocate those funds in 2023 & beyond

I know the $ is peanuts compared to Yelich lengthy & high-$ contract, but I was stunned that Colorado picked up Lamet’s contract this week

We're on the hook for his contract until someone claims him off waivers. And no one, not even the Dodgers or Yankees, is going to sacrifice their own financial flexibility to take that on. It just doesn't happen. 

[edfunderburk]

Just now, Brewcrew82 said:

We're on the hook for his contract until someone claims him off waivers. And no one, not even the Dodgers or Yankees, is going to sacrifice their own financial flexibility to take that on. i

You are breaking my heart with your facts … I don’t disagree but what a gift that would be … & Frelick would be superior batting & fielding & equally as fast on the bases & OBP to Yelich immediately if he by chance were claimed

[Brewcrew82]

Just now, edfunderburk said:

You are breaking my heart with your facts … I don’t disagree but what a gift that would be … & Frelick would be superior batting & fielding & equally as fast on the bases & OBP to Yelich immediately if he by chance were claimed

I am sorry for breaking your heart. But it's most certainly not a given that Frelick would immediately give us superior production to Yelich. Despite his continued power drought, Yelich, just by virtue of his ability to get on base and run the bases well, has been one of the most valuable left fielders in baseball this year by WAR. Frelick, while a great prospect, is entirely unproven at the MLB level and would likely experience his fair share of growing pains. 

[brewers888]

I would be thrilled to get rid of that albatross of a contract so absolutely put him through the process and see if anyone wants to let us off the hook.

[NBBrewFan]

I thought they got rid of revocable waivers and if we put him on waivers and nobody picked him up then we still have to pay his contract and he's a free agent. (might be confusing it with just the post-trade deadline everyone on waivers being gone)

[trwi7]

1 hour ago, igor67 said:

I miss the old way of just putting everyone through for the August trade deadline. Given his bounce back I'd think really hard about letting him go if that were the case and with the number of OF prospects we suddenly have in AAA.

His "bounce back" is basically just hitting .300 with no power.  Given that and poor corner outfield defense, still not even close to being worth the money, especially for us.

[Brewcrew82]

3 minutes ago, trwi7 said:

His "bounce back" is basically just hitting .300 with no power.  Given that and poor corner outfield defense, still not even close to being worth the money, especially for us.

No, it's not worth the money we're paying him, but his WAR this year is among the best in the majors for left-fielders...

[JefferyLeonard]

My god what a foolish thread. Everyone wants to clear up his salary, for what?? The Brewers have shown they won't go out and spend big $$ on a free Agent(Yelich was acquired via trade). So what's the point?? And don't even come at me with "so they can extend Woody/Burnes". Doing that should have NO effect on whether Yelich is on the roster or not. You either want to be a "big boy" baseball team or you don't. It's that simple. Besides, they clear 17million with Cains contract off the books next year. Can't wait to see how they use that...oh wait. 

[Brock Beauchamp]

2 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

No, it's not worth the money we're paying him, but his WAR this year is among the best in the majors for left-fielders...

Eighth best MLB LF according to FanGraphs.

Even an elite prospect would struggle to top that in his rookie season and Frelick is nowhere near an elite prospect. I wouldn't even call him a great prospect. He's good, has a solid chance to become a good MLB starter.

[Robocaller]

If they waived Yelich, no one would claim in on waivers, but several might want to sign him after he clears.  

They'd only have to pay the league minimum.

The Brewers would be paying the remainder of the $30M!

So there is NO upside to waiving him. Other than giving an opportunity to our young OFs. 

We'd still be paying him. 

Yelich isn't worth $30M a year, but he is worth something. Whatever that value is, we'd be giving it away.

 

[trwi7]

5 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

No, it's not worth the money we're paying him, but his WAR this year is among the best in the majors for left-fielders...

It's tied for 7th.  Maybe we can celebrate that as much as we celebrate the '82 team.

[NBBrewFan]

1 minute ago, trwi7 said:

It's tied for 7th.  Maybe we can celebrate that as much as we celebrate the '82 team.

I celebrate the '82 team every day so I have no time for lesser accomplishments.

[Brewcrew82]

5 minutes ago, trwi7 said:

It's tied for 7th.  Maybe we can celebrate that as much as we celebrate the '82 team.

Yes. Mr. Sarcasm, because a team filled exclusively with players who are top 10 in WAR at their positions wouldn't be a serious World Series contender...And FWIW it's 5th by bWAR. 

[sveumrules]

10 minutes ago, JefferyLeonard said:

Besides, they clear 17million with Cains contract off the books next year. Can't wait to see how they use that...oh wait. 

Arbitration raises for Burnes, Woodruff, Adames, etc

[Brock Beauchamp]

24 minutes ago, sveumrules said:

Arbitration raises for Burnes, Woodruff, Adames, etc

Cheap guys don’t stay cheap forever. 

[Hopper]

1 hour ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Yes. Mr. Sarcasm, because a team filled exclusively with players who are top 10 in WAR at their positions wouldn't be a serious World Series contender...And FWIW it's 5th by bWAR. 

Geez, you are becoming insufferable.

Just relax and don't take everything so damn personal.  Not everyone agrees with you, it's a message board, it's ok that people don't always agree with you.

Your constant desire to always be right, and demeaning those that don't agree with you is tiring.

[Hopper]

2 hours ago, Brewcrew82 said:

No team is claiming him at his salary. And in doing so, you would piss off Yelich. So, no, there's not really any upside to putting Yelich on waivers. 

I agree that no one would claim him, but we don't know that for 100% certainty.

 

[Brewcrew82]

On 8/6/2022 at 6:57 PM, Hopper said:

Geez, you are becoming insufferable.

Just relax and don't take everything so damn personal.  Not everyone agrees with you, it's a message board, it's ok that people don't always agree with you.

Your constant desire to always be right, and demeaning those that don't agree with you is tiring.

So, when someone belittles and/or misstates my opinion, I'm not supposed to say anything and just smile? Got it. I'm aware that not everyone agrees with my opinion and completely accept that and welcome criticism, but he literally responded to my opinion with nothing but sarcasm and an apparent putdown...Also, if you have any problems with me, you should private message me and not post it on the board.