Soto and Bell to the Padres

[markedman5]

29 minutes ago, StearnsFTW said:

They'll just work something else out if Hosmer stands firm.

 

Ken Rosenthal

 

@Ken_Rosenthal

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@JimBowdenGM

Source confirms what Jim is saying. Deal will go through with or without Hosmer. Padres still must decide what to do with him.

[mtrebs]

34 minutes ago, torts said:

Imgine if he saidI no ?

He probably will… and then the Nationals will send Soto + $400 million to St. Louis for one AAAA utility player.

[SRB]

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11:50am: Bob Nightengale of USA Today reports (on Twitter) that Hosmer is no longer involved in the deal after refusing to waive his no-trade protection. Soto is still being traded to San Diego, but it remains to be seen whether the rest of the package will change.

Good for him ?

[Jopal78]

Maybe Josh Bell goes elsewhere now. 

[Pugger]

13 minutes ago, Underachiever said:

I want Hosmer to say yes, at about 6:02 Eastern tonight. Chaos.

What time is the dealing done today?

[Jopal78]

45 minutes ago, Ron Robinsons Beard said:

I suspect they'll sign him to a huge deal. That is a team that hasn't shied away from spending recently.

If he turned down a half billion dollars from DC and Boras is his agent, the chances of him signing an extension are probably zero.

[Brock Beauchamp]

Okay, my dream scenario is now that the Padres deal for a bad contract and then pass it on to the Nationals.

[Brock Beauchamp]

Just now, Pugger said:

What time is the dealing done today?

5pm Central

[StearnsFTW]

19 minutes ago, madbad2000 said:

I would nix the deal if I was Hosmer.  San Diego is a great spot to play and live.  I would not like to be in DC.  You get paid regardless and if San Diego holds on to you, you're in a playoff/WS run.  If they DFA you, you still get paid and can possibly choose your next destination.  You owe nothing to the organization and it's actually a pretty insulting move to not get your ok on the no trade prior to accepting a deal.  It should be approved before your name even comes up in a discussion.  

Looks like you're getting your wish.

 

What are the odds San Diego deals Hosmer today? 

 

99.999999999999999999999999%?

 

Also, there was this earlier in the week, which is a baaaaad look for the Padres:

https://www.gaslampball.com/2022/8/1/23287218/padres-1b-eric-hosmer-has-been-told-he-wont-be-traded

 

[Pugger]

Just now, Brock Beauchamp said:

5pm Central

Ok, thanks.  I couldn't remember...

[torts]

Eric Hosmer 1b
8 years/$144M (2018-25)

• 8 years/$144M (2018-25)
  • signed by San Diego as a free agent 2/18
  • $5M signing bonus
  • 18:$20M, 19:$20M, 20:$20M, 21:$20M, 22:$20M, 23:$13M, 24:$13M, 25:$13M
  • Hosmer may opt out of contract after 2022 season
  • full no-trade protection from 2018 to 2020, limited no-trade protection thereafter allowing Hosmer to block deals to 10 clubs (earns 10-and-5 rights after 2022)
  • at signing, largest contract in Padres history

[KeithStone53151]

3 minutes ago, torts said:

Eric Hosmer 1b
8 years/$144M (2018-25)

• 8 years/$144M (2018-25)
  • signed by San Diego as a free agent 2/18
  • $5M signing bonus
  • 18:$20M, 19:$20M, 20:$20M, 21:$20M, 22:$20M, 23:$13M, 24:$13M, 25:$13M
  • Hosmer may opt out of contract after 2022 season
  • full no-trade protection from 2018 to 2020, limited no-trade protection thereafter allowing Hosmer to block deals to 10 clubs (earns 10-and-5 rights after 2022)
  • at signing, largest contract in Padres history

It's hilarious that anyone would even consider the chance he would opt out. as a free agent, he'd get a minor league deal with ST invite, that's his current skill level. Considering the 10 and 5 rights, there's extremely high chance he's traded by 5. one way or another.

[Jopal78]

10 minutes ago, KeithStone53151 said:

It's hilarious that anyone would even consider the chance he would opt out. as a free agent, he'd get a minor league deal with ST invite, that's his current skill level. Considering the 10 and 5 rights, there's extremely high chance he's traded by 5. one way or another.

Probably unless there is a three team deal somehow where he lands with another contender. 

[djoctagone]

 

[sveumrules]

1 hour ago, PeaveyFury said:

I love all three of Gore, Hassell, and Abrams, so that’s a legit haul for Washington. Not sure the Brewers could have come close, even if Mitchell and Chourio  were the headliners.

Yeah, I think the closest would have been something like Ashby (Gore), Chourio (Abrams), Frelick (Hassell), Wiemer (Woods), and Gasser (Susana).

[monty57]

1 hour ago, SRB said:

If San Diego is eating the salary, I would actually be interested in the Brewers coming in as a third team to pick up Hosmer (if we are not on his no-trade clause or if he considers us a contender). No, he's not great overall, but he hits LHP well: .350 wOBA against LHP this season. We could use him as a 1B/DH platoon bat.

If San Diego paid most of the contract (like, all but league minimum), this might not be the worst idea. They're probably about ready to DFA him after today, so maybe the Brewers could get him for nothing. If they don't want him after this year, they can cut him and only be on the hook for around league minimum for a couple more seasons.

If not, then at least Hosmer can enjoy the nice San Diego sunshine while all of the Padre fans boo him every time he comes to the plate.

[DR28]

Hosmer dealt to Boston.

[The stache]

Again, Soto was never….never coming to Milwaukee. And it amuses me that people actually discussed this possibility. 
 

 

[Brewcrew82]

1 minute ago, The stache said:

Again, Soto was never….never coming to Milwaukee. And it amuses me that people actually discussed this possibility. 
 

 

No one actually seriously entertained the possibility. The discussion was more in fun and jest than anything. 

[areacodes]

1 minute ago, The stache said:

Again, Soto was never….never coming to Milwaukee. And it amuses me that people actually discussed this possibility. 
 

 

I mean, that is what the Trade Rumors/Proposal board is for… to discuss things about trades even if they are a fantasy.  I doubt anybody really thought the Brewers had a real chance of getting Soto.

And yes, I know this is no longer on the Trade Rumor/Proposal board but that is where a majority of the discussions that amused you took place.

[JCREW]

It's going to leave us all wondering what the standalone return for Soto or the standalone return for Bell would have been. 

 

Wood for Bell seems like too much. 

Susana for Bell seems like too little. 

[The stache]

25 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

No one actually seriously entertained the possibility. The discussion was more in fun and jest than anything. 

Sure about that? Because this seems a bit more than “fun and jest”.

On 8/1/2022 at 1:24 PM, Jopal78 said:

It's not impossible to think the Brewers could package, Ruiz, Gasser and some of their other prospects for Soto.  A trade of Hader and Prospects for Soto and Taylor Rogers looks a lot better. 

 

 

On 8/1/22 at 1:38 PM, JohnBriggs12 said:

Padres were one of the favorites for Soto.  Could Ruiz be a guy who helps get Soto?  His minor league numbers this year are phenomenal.

 

 

On 8/1/22 at 1:14 PM, nate82 said:

What if the Brewers are just shedding payroll to pickup Ohtani or Soto?  Would be an interesting strategy.  

 

On 8/1/22 at 1:17 PM, narwhalattck said:

If Stearns can somehow pull off that miracle, he’ll deserve to be in the hall of fame even if he achieves nothing else for the rest of his tenure.

 

On 8/1/22 at 12:58 PM, Hooker78 said:

It definitely gives them more ammo for another move. You’re not trading Hader for Soto…but could a couple of these guys be flipped with a few of our own to put a package together for a Soto or a Reynolds now? We’ll find out soon…

 

 

 

[The stache]

29 minutes ago, areacodes said:

I mean, that is what the Trade Rumors/Proposal board is for… to discuss things about trades even if they are a fantasy.  I doubt anybody really thought the Brewers had a real chance of getting Soto.

And yes, I know this is no longer on the Trade Rumor/Proposal board but that is where a majority of the discussions that amused you took place.

The discussion I was referring to took place in the Josh Hader reaction thread. 

[owbc]

This is a gigantic win for the Brewers, keeping Soto out of the NL Central and especially out of St. Louis. The Cardinals have done nothing to improve. 

The storylines of a Brewers/Padres wild card matchup would be pretty interesting. Certainly this solidifies the Padres as a serious postseason contender this year. 

We don't even know if Soto will end up signing with San Diego. They already are close to maxing out their payroll. They might have to blow the whole thing up in little over two years. 

[Outlander]

10 minutes ago, The stache said:

Sure about that? Because this seems a bit more than “fun and jest”.

 

I'm not even somebody who proposed Soto coming to Milwaukee but who cares if people are talking about a Soto trade in a Brewers forum whether it is fun or serious. You've already made plenty of posts that Soto wasn't coming to Milwaukee, don't  really need another one.