Political thread forum

[Big Reed]

brian, i know you hate drama. but it would appear that many of your brewerfan posters including myself love drama and political debate. I felt bad that the imus thread went to 5 pages and it was locked before i could contribute to it.

 

would you give any thought to opening a forum or political website for just drama and political posts? it doesn't have to be brewer related or affiliated with brewerfan.

 

Didn't brewerfan use to have another site to discuss politics and religion?

[Brian the Automator]

Political forum:

p201.ezboard.com/bbrewerf...ticalscene

[rluzinski]

Too bad it's always the same few people who can't carry on an intelligent discussion if their life depended on it. It's shame, since the majority of contributing posters, despite having opposing viewpoints seem to be able to.

 

It's also disheartening to realize that many who proclaim an unconditional allegiance to either party seems to lack the ability to formulate their own opinions on matters large and small. They become puppets, with political leaders and radio/tv/internet personalities controlling their thoughts and words. "I don't know what how I feel about this topic, let me turn on the TV and have someone else tell me it!" How intellectually suffocating.

 

Anything not related to sports has been "claimed" by one of the two majority parties and turned into a polarized political debate. Yuck.

 

/rant

[Brian the Automator]

[ Too bad it's always the same few people who can't carry on an intelligent discussion if their life depended on it. It's shame, since the majority of contributing posters, despite having opposing viewpoints seem to be able to. ]

 

I agree. Back during the election, I had a lot of great conversation with people who had opposing viewpoints. I learned a lot, and I would hope they got some insights into my points of view. It turns ugly when people bring out viewpoints from the more extreme players from the left & right.

 

The only other choice is to start banning posters who are otherwise quite civil when it comes to baseball... so, unfortunately, I had to make a choice.

[rluzinski]

The only other choice is to start banning posters who are otherwise quite civil when it comes to baseball... so, unfortunately, I had to make a choice.

 

Understood. This is a baseball site, first and foremost, after all.

 

Are there any established and strictly moderated political message boards that promote intelligent debate between posters of varying political leanings? I highly doubt there's much of an audience for that. Not combative enough and it would probably require more than just cutting and pasting text from crappy political websites.

[Fatter than Joey]

Too bad it's always the same few people who can't carry on an intelligent discussion if their life depended on it.

 

Ain't that the truth. -- I was bummed out, I didn't get to contribute my dope takes to the Imus thread (I thought the whole issue was way more sexist than racist).

 

Are there any established and strictly moderated political message boards that promote intelligent debate between posters of varying political leanings? I highly doubt there's much of an audience for that. Not combative enough and it would probably require more than just cutting and pasting text from crappy political websites.

 

When everyone on BFnet was doing that nationstates thing I set up a forum, hopefully designed to do exactly what you are describing. I have wanted many time to post here about a topic I am uninformed on, however, knew that it would deteriorate into lockdown. What I was hoping that it would develop into would be a forum that was mostly fueled by books than TV/Radio buffonery. Unfortunately it never reached "established" although, I think it definitely had potential. It is still running, and I would certainly pimp it out if the interest grew. I was hoping for some good book discussion.

 

Many of the guys I work with are political/election junkies and can talk election/politics all day long. Our discussions rarely get polarized, and instead focus on the strategies, and candidates rather than personal views.

 

I would invite anyone to PM me if interested.

[Big Reed]

thanks brian. i thought we used to have a site that talked about political events and religion. unfortunately it looks like it hasn't been used much in the past 2 years, and the threads have been deleted.

 

I enjoyed our discussions on religion,

 

I realize this is a baseball site, not a political one, and establishing a political forum on a baseball site is not a great idea. but i think some of us would like to challenge each other's thinking. if that old site is still open, perhaps we could use it.

 

political forums are very hard to moderate because of the cultures we come from. What may be common place language to one ethnic group may be offensive to another one. and sometimes when you think honesty is the best policy, others don't want to hear it. And sometimes to engage in debate or solicit feedback, you must come close to the edge. but in going to the edge is where you really learn how to accept different cultures.

[mothershipconnection]

I think the site has gotten to big for us to go back to even the level of civility we had before the political forum was closed. If you assume the same percentage of people who can't keep things civil or refrain from really inappropriate comments, we'd now have maybe 50% more fire starters, which would be way too much to police.

 

It's too bad the politics forum never took off, because it was a great idea. Its failure is why I worried Lambeau Leap wouldn't work, because it seems people just aren't going to go to two different sites. The politics site seemed to be maybe 20% of those of us who like to talk politics, and only a few of us seemed to go there every day.

 

The only idea I had to make the site more visible is to sticky the link to the politics forum and allow people to post that they've started a discussion over there, but not allow the discussion to take place in that thread.

 

I'm really going to miss graduate school, since it has given me a civil and fairly-intelligent "politics forum" in real life. All I'll have when I leave is listening to Mike Gallagher on the drive to work and making wise-mouth comments back to my radio. At least the popularity of bluetooth headsets has made it more acceptable to appear that you're talking to yourself in your car.

[iluvlamp]

I agree with everyone above. I thought a lot of people contributed to the Imus thread with great sensibility. I really am getting sick of the overtones of several posters. Political conversation seems to be dripping in everywhere and I really am tired of it. I know I try to be level headed about other points of view but it seems vitriol from other posters makes it so you can't ignore it. So you respond. Some just do it in asinine ways.

 

Just because you listen to "right-wingers" doesn't make you a piece of garbage. It does for several many posters on this site. That is wrong. It also happens if you listen to the "left". That is wrong.

 

I guess I am not innocent of posting political responses, but it's getting to the point that when the thread turns political, I'm done with it. I'm not even going to bother to read the responses whether I agree or not because in the end it's never worth it.

 

Let's grow up.

[Big Reed]

iluvlamp:

 

i did not post in the Imus thread. I'm now glad I didn't.

 

however, i posted a couple of posts today in that forum Brian provided a link . it's my hope these two posts can be a start of a civil religious discussion. if things remai n civil, i might post some political related threads.

[homer]

I could never get my username and password to work on the political thread.

[1992casey]

homer,

 

You have a local ezBoard account. It's good for Brewerfan.net only.

 

If you'd like to post on the other forum, you'll need to sign up for a local account over there or sign up for a global ezBoard account.

[homer]

I seem to recall trying to add a profile with username 'homer' but it said that name already existed. No big deal. I probably won't use it.