Suggested roster moves

[monty57]

17 hours ago, Brewcrew82 said:

 

Meh. Not quite sure the Brewers will go that direction. But I do like the idea of acquiring a Michael Taylor as more of a stopgap measure for the remainder of this season than having to sacrifice significant assets for a guy like Reynolds or Laureano. 

Do you not like the idea of bringing Frelick up because you don't want to start his clock, or because you don't think he's ready? 

I still have hopes for Mitchell, but at this point it's looking like Frelick is the CF of the future for the Brewers. The question is when the future begins. It would sure help the Brewers out if it's sooner rather than later.

[Outlander]

There is a lot of historical data suggesting this isn't the real Michael Taylor but would prefer him over Davis. They have 10 or so more days to acquire a CF, but if they don't I would give a Taylor/Frelick platoon a shot. 

[Brewcrew82]

1 hour ago, monty57 said:

Do you not like the idea of bringing Frelick up because you don't want to start his clock, or because you don't think he's ready? 

I still have hopes for Mitchell, but at this point it's looking like Frelick is the CF of the future for the Brewers. The question is when the future begins. It would sure help the Brewers out if it's sooner rather than later.

I don't think he's quite ready yet. Maybe if we were out of the race, but we can't afford to be patient as we're in the thick of things here. 

[monty57]

8 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

I don't think he's quite ready yet. Maybe if we were out of the race, but we can't afford to be patient as we're in the thick of things here. 

Fair enough. You never know with a rookie. He could hit the ground running and be a nice "shot in the arm" for our offense, but he could experience "growing pains." 

It's probably safer if Stearns can find a veteran "rental," but I agree with Outlander. If they can't find someone by the deadline, I think I'm ready to take the risk on Frelick rather than continuing with the Taylor / Davis experiment. Taylor has proven to be a good 4th OF, but he seems to be below average as a starting CF, and Davis is probably best used as a 5th OF/defensive replacement and isn't someone you want to count on to start for extended periods.

[NBBrewFan]

1 hour ago, monty57 said:

I think I'm ready to take the risk on Frelick rather than continuing with the Taylor / Davis experiment. Taylor has proven to be a good 4th OF, but he seems to be below average as a starting CF, and Davis is probably best used as a 5th OF/defensive replacement and isn't someone you want to count on to start for extended periods.

I'm disappointed in Tyrone's overall year, but when exactly was he given the same time to fail as a starter as any other OF on the team?  Tyrone has an overall 0.751 OPS and OPS+ of 97 while working as a CF. Both of which are pretty good numbers and not likely to be easily acquired (and for cheap). He also is slightly above average on some defensive metrics and he passes the eye test as not a liability in the field. Davis shouldn't be on a MLB roster because of his bat and he would have to be able to jump 30 feet and have world record speed for his defense to make up for his offense.  If you want to use him as a defensive replacement that rarely bats we probably are talking about a wasted roster spot.  The more PA he gets the less value his defense has. I still would like Taylor to get 2-3 months of consistent starting before we relegate him to only a 4th outfielder.  Even the next 60+ games would be a great audition.

[Brewin]

I just don't see what some of you see in TT. He, at best is 4th OF IMO. He has been given plenty of opportunities and is a very streaky hitter. As far as his defense goes, I know some metrics see him as above average, but as a CF he definitely is not a plus defender. Stearns should absolutely be looking to upgrade at CF before the deadline

[djoctagone]

this may be moot because there's still time left before the trading deadline . . .

the brewers' roster is down to 25 with the departure of josh hader.

dinelson lamet and taylor rogers are expected to be activated, although lamet could be optioned.

and then there's need for a corresponding move when freddy peralta is activated later this week (including returning him to the 40-man).

might have been convenient for victor caratini to go on the 7-day injured list for concussion protocols after being hit in the head saturday during franchy cordero's at-bat, but caratini ended up playing in sunday's game, so presumably, he's okay.

 

[liveforoctober]

59 minutes ago, djoctagone said:

this may be moot because there's still time left before the trading deadline . . .

the brewers' roster is down to 25 with the departure of josh hader.

dinelson lamet and taylor rogers are expected to be activated, although lamet could be optioned.

and then there's need for a corresponding move when freddy peralta is activated later this week (including returning him to the 40-man).

might have been convenient for victor caratini to go on the 7-day injured list for concussion protocols after being hit in the head saturday during franchy cordero's at-bat, but caratini ended up playing in sunday's game, so presumably, he's okay.

 

You said it right away and I agree that the roster will be manipulated a time or two before the deadline tomorrow. I started thinking about corresponding moves to accompany this trade but stopped quickly as I realized we will have more trades and names to finagle(sp?) in the coming hours..

[edfunderburk]

On 7/22/2022 at 10:06 AM, monty57 said:

Do you not like the idea of bringing Frelick up because you don't want to start his clock, or because you don't think he's ready? 

I still have hopes for Mitchell, but at this point it's looking like Frelick is the CF of the future for the Brewers. The question is when the future begins. It would sure help the Brewers out if it's sooner rather than later.

Chourio may be ready to play CF by late 2024

[True Blue Brew Crew]

9 hours ago, edfunderburk said:

Chourio may be ready to play CF by late 2024

Chourio is putting up better numbers than Juan Soto at age 18 in A ball and Soto was in the majors for good the following year at age 19 where he slashed .292, .406, .517, .923

Not saying, just saying

It's possible Chourio could debut at some point next season. He's that good.

[Outlander]

Well they didn't acquire an experienced CF so hope they are considering bringing up Frelick. Taylor/Davis are not difference makers, Frelick has a chance to be one. Stearns kept on preaching internal options, time to make the move if they want to make the playoffs and have a chance at a World Series.

[edfunderburk]

I hope someone in upper management is “brave” enough to DFA Suter once a few injured & rehabbing middle relief pitchers return to the roster 

I would consider several players worthy of a 26-man (13 pitcher) roster spot over Suter: Houser, Cousins, (potentially) Topa

Who else am I missing?

[edfunderburk]

On 8/3/2022 at 9:33 AM, Outlander said:

Well they didn't acquire an experienced CF so hope they are considering bringing up Frelick. Taylor/Davis are not difference makers, Frelick has a chance to be one. Stearns kept on preaching internal options, time to make the move if they want to make the playoffs and have a chance at a World Series.

I wholehearted agree

IF Frelick continues to play well in Nashville this month, I’d love to see him added to the big league roster in late August so he is eligible for playoff consideration … assuming we actually make the playoffs - which is certainly not a given

[edfunderburk]

3 minutes ago, edfunderburk said:

I hope someone in upper management is “brave” enough to DFA Suter once a few injured & rehabbing middle relief pitchers return to the roster 

I would consider several players worthy of a 26-man (13 pitcher) roster spot over Suter: Houser, Cousins, (potentially) Topa

Who else am I missing?

I also believe Houser, Cousins, & Topa are more valuable to Milwaukee than McGee 

 

[endaround]

2 hours ago, edfunderburk said:

I hope someone in upper management is “brave” enough to DFA Suter once a few injured & rehabbing middle relief pitchers return to the roster 

I would consider several players worthy of a 26-man (13 pitcher) roster spot over Suter: Houser, Cousins, (potentially) Topa

Who else am I missing?

Suter ZIPS ROS xFIP 4.16

Bush ZIPS ROS xFIP 4.24

[SeaBass]

Anyone think the Brewers would have interest in signing JBJ once he clears waivers? Purely for defensive reasons. Roster spots are probably too precious for a specialty player but he's still a heck of a CF. I think the odds are low but I wouldn't hate it. He'd still be disposable if they wanted to do something else.

[Brewcrew82]

12 minutes ago, SeaBass said:

Anyone think the Brewers would have interest in signing JBJ once he clears waivers? Purely for defensive reasons. Roster spots are probably too precious for a specialty player but he's still a heck of a CF. I think the odds are low but I wouldn't hate it. He'd still be disposable if they wanted to do something else.

No way. Not only do we have a glut of promising young center field options in AAA, but we already have Jonathan Davis on the major league roster who plays just as good of defense and gets on base at a better rate than JBJ. 

[rickh150]

Brewers believe Suter>Lamet. Could have cut Suter. We have three other lefties.

Brewers could have cut McGee for Lamet.

Brewers could have optioned Milner for Lamet (bring up Milner in Sept.).

A little hangover craziness from trading Hader for same haul now as 2022 offseason trade, not trading for a needed rental bat, paying free spending SD for a relief pitcher and then cutting him a day later after manager/GM praised him,  to trading for a huge question mark injured reliever to pitch in September after not pitching in two years. 

[SeaBass]

9 hours ago, Brewcrew82 said:

No way. Not only do we have a glut of promising young center field options in AAA, but we already have Jonathan Davis on the major league roster who plays just as good of defense and gets on base at a better rate than JBJ. 

That's fair, I admit I haven't seen a lot of Davis' play and I kinda forgot about him.

As far as the young guys in AAA, eh..., I'd rather not unless it's an absolute emergency. I feel like everyone always expects young guys to hit the ground running when they get called up and it seems to be a pretty rare occurrence IMO. Even the absolute studs struggle, I'd rather not put that pressure to perform in a tight division battle on their shoulders.