Game Thread (5/16/2022): Braves (Anderson) at Brewers (Peralta) - 6:40 PM CDT

[areacodes]

10 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

I'm more comfortable saying I think the Brewers will have a top 10 offense at the end of the year than I would be comfortable saying top 6.

I think their pitching staff is good enough for a top 10 offense to be good enough to take them a long ways, though. 

I think this is an accurate and reasonable take on the Brewers offense this year.  Also in contrast to the negative posters who repeatedly complain about the offense.

[CheeseheadInQC]

It also can’t be understated how bad offense has been across baseball this year. Only the Rockies I believe had a .260 average or .750 OPS. The Brewers might seem worse relatively than they are using the eye test because the norm we are comparing them against isn’t the norm anymore. 
 

I mean the Brewers had the top ISO in the league coming into tonight, and you wouldn’t confuse their lineup with Murderer’s Row.

[Eye Black]

Braves broadcast seemed more in shock about the incorrectly called double play than even the Brewers broadcast…

 

[Brewcrew82]

1 hour ago, BruisedCrew said:

If you want to look at facts you have to look at all of the relevant ones. In the case of runs scored per game it is relevant who the runs are scored against (not just which teams but which pitchers) and how the runs are distributed among games. 

In the Brewers case, they had that string  of high scoring games against the Cubs, Pirates and Reds that really inflated the R/G number, moving them from near the bottom of MLB to near the top. They have slid back some over the last ten days even with the double digit outburst in the loss to the Reds. 

Not all runs are created equal. Scoring 18 runs in a game by piling it on the back end starters and mop up men (including position players) and then combining that with two shutouts produces a 6 R/G average and a record of 1-2. Scoring 6 runs in each of 3 games produces the same R/G, but very possibly 2 or 3 wins with reasonably effective pitching.

Maybe the Brewers’ overall mix of very high scoring games and very low scoring games is no different than MLB’s top scoring teams, even when taking into account how many games the teams have played against the league’s weakest teams. But it would require a dive deeper than the surface level of R/G.

IMHO, a “narrative” that it might have been expected that the Brewers would have trouble scoring against a pitcher like Ian Anderson is not so easily dismissed. 

 

 

Okay. But you also have to realize that good offenses pile up runs against "bad" teams, while having a harder time scoring runs against "good" teams. It's just the nature of the game. This offense is not the putrid outlet the same few people on here want you to believe. It's not one of the elite offenses in MLB, but it's probably somewhere in the tier after that. With our pitching, that is more than enough to get us 95 wins or so once again.

[Brewcrew82]

Well, look at that. The Brewers are tied with the Mets for the best record in the NL, percentage points ahead of the Dodgers. Too bad I was told that this isn't a good team...

[Sixtolezcano]

1 hour ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Another plus is that Spencer Strider will not be starting for the Braves tomorrow. He was rumored to be the most likely candidate. Would've been a probable loss with Houser starting for us. 

 

[Brewcrew82]

Just now, Sixtolezcano said:

 

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[Sixtolezcano]

1 hour ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Great Win! Vintage performances from Peralta, Williams, and Hader. Nice to see that we're not limited to beating up on "bad" teams. 

 

[Brewcrew82]

1 minute ago, Sixtolezcano said:

 

Why do you keep quoting my posts without a response? 

[Brewcrew82]

30 minutes ago, Sixtolezcano said:

 

Okay. So it looks like you're just trolling me at this point. You've been reported to the admins. 

[Robocaller]

3 hours ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Well, look at that. The Brewers are tied with the Mets for the best record in the NL, percentage points ahead of the Dodgers. Too bad I was told that this isn't a good team...

I think we have a chance to go very far.

[Robocaller]

4 hours ago, areacodes said:

I think this is an accurate and reasonable take on the Brewers offense this year.  Also in contrast to the negative posters who repeatedly complain about the offense.

(Just looked at "old" stats, sorry).
MKE is 6th in OPS, 5th in Runs, 2nd (tied) in HR

Brewer pitching is:

10th in ERA, 11th in WHP, 3rd in OBA, and 1st (by a good bit) in SO.

Seems like hitting is outperforming pitching at this point.

I'd love to see them acquire a bat and a reliever. I'd really like the bat to be Wiemer in a September call-up, and put into CF.

[Robocaller]

5 hours ago, folly412 said:

Devin feeling well tonight.  When he struggled the other day, he was hitting 94 and not even able to place that well.  Going up the ladder at 97 there.

He's had difficulty throwing the CU for strikes. All he needs to fix.

[Robocaller]

5 hours ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Great Win! Vintage performances from Peralta, Williams, and Hader. Nice to see that we're not limited to beating up on "bad" teams. 

Braves have a losing record. So. . . bad.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

9 hours ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Don't let facts get in the way of a good narrative....

Curmudgeons gonna curmudgeon

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

The Brewers won 1-0, yet you read several posts on this IGT, you'd think they lost 9-0. A few of you have the habit of completely sucking the air out of the room. 

The Brewers are a good team. Good teams beat up on bad teams. That's how their stats and record gets padded. Come on guys, how long have you been watching baseball? That's how it works in a 162-game season. This team is going to sometimes struggle against good teams and good pitchers .... because they are good teams and good pitchers! Good pitching shuts down good hitting. Good grief!

[Pugger]

8 minutes ago, Ron Robinsons Beard said:

The Brewers won 1-0, yet you read several posts on this IGT, you'd think they lost 9-0. A few of you have the habit of completely sucking the air out of the room. 

The Brewers are a good team. Good teams beat up on bad teams. That's how their stats and record gets padded. Come on guys, how long have you been watching baseball? That's how it works in a 162-game season. This team is going to sometimes struggle against good teams and good pitchers .... because they are good teams and good pitchers! Good pitching shuts down good hitting. Good grief!

And good teams can occasionally lose to lesser teams.  As long as you keep losing streaks to a minimum you'll be okay.

[KeithStone53151]

2 hours ago, Ron Robinsons Beard said:

The Brewers won 1-0, yet you read several posts on this IGT, you'd think they lost 9-0. A few of you have the habit of completely sucking the air out of the room. 

The Brewers are a good team. Good teams beat up on bad teams. That's how their stats and record gets padded. Come on guys, how long have you been watching baseball? That's how it works in a 162-game season. This team is going to sometimes struggle against good teams and good pitchers .... because they are good teams and good pitchers! Good pitching shuts down good hitting. Good grief!

Nonsense, Vlad is so good...all his HR came against a rotation of Cole, Verlander, Scherzer, Kershaw, Burnes. He never faces the bad pitchers.