McCutchen in agreement with Brewers

[Simba2020]

4 minutes ago, RoCoBrewfan said:

Saying he can play all 3 outfield spots was true, once upon a time.  I suppose he technically still *can* be put in CF, but definitely should not be, ever, unless nobody else on the roster capable of doing so is left in the game. 

Yeah it would be the same as saying Yelich can play all 3 OF spots, badly.

[brewerfan82]

Pair this with the Renfroe addition and you probably have a slight improvement vs RHP and a major improvement vs LHP compared to the Garcia/JBJ duo (mainly because JBJ is quite bad and Clutch MASHES lefties). Albeit you likely have a big drop in defense with this pair as well.

2019-21 vs. RHP:

#	Name	Team	G	AB	PA	H	1B	2B	3B	HR	R	RBI	BB	IBB	SO	HBP	SF	SH	GDP	SB	CS	BB%	K%	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS	wRC+
1	Avisail Garcia	- - -	295	810	880	214	144	32	1	37	99	126	44	2	215	19	7	0	19	17	7	5.0%	24.4%	.264	.315	.443	.758	102
2	Hunter Renfroe	- - -	296	748	814	166	78	43	0	45	108	122	55	0	235	3	8	0	10	7	1	6.8%	28.9%	.222	.275	.460	.735	91
3	Andrew McCutchen	PHI	246	643	748	138	80	30	0	28	100	96	96	1	174	1	8	0	9	9	2	12.8%	23.3%	.215	.314	.392	.706	88
4	Jackie Bradley Jr.	- - -	308	784	877	165	93	41	5	26	106	86	71	3	241	17	3	2	9	13	7	8.1%	27.5%	.210	.289	.375	.664	75

2019-21 vs. LHP:

#	Name	Team	G	AB	PA	H	1B	2B	3B	HR	R	RBI	BB	IBB	SO	HBP	SF	SH	GDP	SB	CS	BB%	K%	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS	wRC+
1	Andrew McCutchen	PHI	151	275	329	80	44	15	2	19	55	47	50	1	61	4	0	0	6	3	0	15.2%	18.5%	.291	.407	.567	.975	157
2	Hunter Renfroe	- - -	193	335	391	83	41	14	1	27	63	60	49	1	86	2	5	0	5	1	1	12.5%	22.0%	.248	.343	.537	.880	130
3	Avisail Garcia	- - -	183	321	372	88	52	21	1	14	50	47	45	7	80	5	1	0	10	2	4	12.1%	21.5%	.274	.371	.477	.848	125
4	Jackie Bradley Jr.	- - -	190	288	335	63	42	12	1	8	34	27	36	1	94	7	3	1	7	7	2	10.7%	28.1%	.219	.317	.351	.668	79

Go get a Voit-type to help against righties (.868 OPS and 134 wRC+ the past three years) and we should be sitting pretty good.

[sveumrules]

32 minutes ago, brewers888 said:

Sorry but this lineup is still way short if they want to win the World Series.

instead of signing a real impact bat like Castellanos we went dumpster diving much like we did at last years deadline. Great pitching is going to be wasted by having a sub par offense.

 

 

The Braves just won the World Series with Riley (898 OPS), Freeman (896 OPS), Albies (799 OPS), Duvall (772 OPS), Swanson (760 OPS), Soler (749 OPS), Rosario (740 OPS), Pederson (732 OPS) & d'Arnaud (671 OPS) as their nine man lineup. They were no juggernaut.

 

The nine Brewers who got the most PAs in the postseason were Adames (886 OPS), Avisail (820 OPS), Urias (789 OPS), Escobar (786 OPS), Wong (783 OPS), Omar (743 OPS), Yelich (736 OPS), Cain (729 OPS) & Rowdy (719 OPS). Not a huge difference.
 

If McCutchen (778 OPS) is a dumpster dive then the Braves won the WS in large part because of an even bigger dumpster dive in Rosario (740 OPS).

 

Small samples be crazy like that.

[markedman5]

 

[wallus]

Ok if this isn't a big money deal. 

[Joseph Zarr]

11 minutes ago, sveumrules said:

The Braves just won the World Series with Riley (898 OPS), Freeman (896 OPS), Albies (799 OPS), Duvall (772 OPS), Swanson (760 OPS), Soler (749 OPS), Rosario (740 OPS), Pederson (732 OPS) & d'Arnaud (671 OPS) as their nine man lineup. They were no juggernaut.

 

The nine Brewers who got the most PAs in the postseason were Adames (886 OPS), Avisail (820 OPS), Urias (789 OPS), Escobar (786 OPS), Wong (783 OPS), Omar (743 OPS), Yelich (736 OPS), Cain (729 OPS) & Rowdy (719 OPS). Not a huge difference.
 

If McCutchen (778 OPS) is a dumpster dive then the Braves won the WS in large part because of an even bigger dumpster dive in Rosario (740 OPS).

 

Small samples be crazy like that.

Awesome post. Holy heck did Rosario have a post-season run eh? That was fun to watch. 

[brewerfan82]

Ok, I'm 100% okay with this acquisition now:

 

[wntrtxn21]

25 minutes ago, Simba2020 said:

Yeah it would be the same as saying Yelich can play all 3 OF spots, badly.

I think he'll play LF when Yelich DHs

[wallus]

McCutchen paired with B. Miller wouldn't be a bad DH platoon

[PeaveyFury]

Seems like a good option at DH vs. LHP and to cover days off. Poor defender at this point, but he’s a legit bat vs. lefties.

Still need another bat, but pending the money, this is pretty solid.

[TURBO]

20 hours ago, wntrtxn21 said:

I think he'll play LF when Yelich DHs

This probably just cut into Tyrone's ABs for his season.

I'm sure between Yelich and Cain injuries, Taylor will get his, but if we sign another outfielder, that shows us what management thinks of Taylor's future as a Brewer.

[ClosetBrewerFan]

Can we add another bat?  We already have 13 hitters now.  Three starting OF, 4 IF, 2 C, and then McCutchen, Brosseau, Peterson, Taylor..  I'm assuming we will have 13 pitchers most of the season.  Sure, I believe to start the season we will have expanded rosters but throughout the season we will be limited to 13.  Only Brosseau has an option left so its not like we can just option these guys out.  Jace is going to get a lot of ABs being the only LH bat on the bench.

[sveumrules]

Brosseau/Jace are kind of redundant outside of hitting righty vs lefty.

Would imagine one of them is the odd man out if (hopefully when) they add another bat.

[brewers888]

Is there any chance this team signs a more prominent bat or is this pretty much what we are going with. In my opinion this is probably our biggest acquisition for the lineup which would be really disappointing but hopefully Stearns signs or trades for a MUCH better hitter to improve what looks to be a pretty bad offensive team.

[Eye Black]

If baseball is supposed to be fun then I’m for this signing.

For whatever it’s worth, ZiPS and especially THE BAT X still believe in McCutchen’s bat. 

Season	Team	Level	Age	G	PA	HR	R	RBI	SB	BB%	K%	ISO	BABIP	AVG	OBP	SLG	wOBA	xwOBA	wRC+	BsR	Off	Def	WAR
2022	ZiPS DC	PROJ	35	131	567	23	75	76	7	13.0%	23.0%	.195	.266	.232	.336	.426	.331		108	-0.1	5.6	-12.2	1.2
2022	THE BAT X	PROJ	35	111	484	20	67	61	4	12.8%	21.5%	.207	.297	.258	.359	.464	.355		124	-0.1	14.3	-9.5	2.1

[Jopal78]

13 minutes ago, turborickey said:

This probably just cut into Tyrone's ABs for her season.

I'm sure between Yelich and Cain injuries, Taylor will get his, but if we sign another outfielder, that shows us what management thinks of Taylor's future as a Brewer.

Taylor is already 28, and has a sub .330 OPB for his career in both the majors as well as the minors.

Its great when a 2nd round pick makes it after spending a decade in the minors, but biography aside Taylor is just a guy. 

[KeithStone53151]

I suspect any addition we make going forward on the position player side will be via trade, I would be surprised if we bring in another free agent bat.

Also this lineup had a fair number of underperformers last year, the numbers just don't back up that this is a bad lineup

[MVP2110]

Our lineup after we added Adames and Rowdy was pretty good last year too and this year we get them for a full season. Plus we all know Stearns is aggressive mid-season for upgrades 

[PeaveyFury]

22 minutes ago, brewers888 said:

Is there any chance this team signs a more prominent bat 

Yep. I think there’s a good chance they’ve got one more significant acquisition coming.

[BrewCrewForever]

This sure doesn't get my juices going like a Castellanos, Bryant, Schwarber or even Conforto signing would, but I guess it is okay.

[sveumrules]

28 minutes ago, MVP2110 said:

Our lineup after we added Adames and Rowdy was pretty good last year too and this year we get them for a full season. Plus we all know Stearns is aggressive mid-season for upgrades 

Yup. From Willy’s first game on 5/22 through 9/4 when he hit the DL the Brewers scored the 2nd most runs in MLB.

[brewmann04]

IF David could add one of these 3 Castellanos, Bryant, Schwarber this lineup will be really Fun to watch. I think the Crew is done at this point adding anymore arms.

[Eye Black]

BTW, enjoying the new forum interface, but a little disappointed I can’t like my own comments. 

[JosephC]

I'm surprised by this move, as the defensive metrics pretty much indicate that McCutchen is a complete butcher with the glove.  Since Stearns seems to place real value in outfield defense, I can't help but think that McCutchen was signed to be the primary DH.

[DR28]

39 minutes ago, sveumrules said:

Yup. From Willy’s first game on 5/22 through 9/4 when he hit the DL the Brewers scored the 2nd most runs in MLB.

Wait seriously??

Where the hell was this offense against the Braves? Man I really didnt know that.