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I've always found that somewhat annoying as well.  The crew chief will explain something to the managers, point at bases or a guy, and then someone will go to base, and we the viewers have no idea how or why something was ruled a specific way until after the game.  It would be nice in the moment to have an explanation of *why* something is ruled a specific way.  

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Just bring on the robo zone. No umps will lose their jobs as you still need an ump at the plate for many reasons. Umps will face a lot less criticism from fans, media, coaches, and players. MLB won't look as bad as it does now when you have blatantly, terrible calls changing the outcome of games. All sides win - MLB, MLBPA, and umps. I don't see how anyone could be against this.

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3 minutes ago, jerichoholicninja said:

Just bring on the robo zone. No umps will lose their jobs as you still need an ump at the plate for many reasons. Umps will face a lot less criticism from fans, media, coaches, and players. MLB won't look as bad as it does now when you have blatantly, terrible calls changing the outcome of games. All sides win - MLB, MLBPA, and umps. I don't see how anyone could be against this.

Pretty much just comes down to ego for the umps.

If I was an umpire, I’d say bring it on. Makes the job easier, wipes out all the needless ball & strike back & forth.

Just watch out for foul tips.

 

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Just now, jerichoholicninja said:

Just bring on the robo zone. No umps will lose their jobs as you still need an ump at the plate for many reasons. Umps will face a lot less criticism from fans, media, coaches, and players. MLB won't look as bad as it does now when you have blatantly, terrible calls changing the outcome of games. All sides win - MLB, MLBPA, and umps. I don't see how anyone could be against this.

I'm guessing the umpires would object because their pay would eventually be impacted. No point paying the same if they have less work to do.

We're not far from replacing the 4 umpire crew with a single guy sitting in a video room evaluating each play based on the feeds.  Baseball of all the sports is the most amenable to near full automation as there is minimal contact between the teams as part of the game flow.

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7 minutes ago, NBBrewFan said:

I'm guessing the umpires would object because their pay would eventually be impacted. No point paying the same if they have less work to do.

We're not far from replacing the 4 umpire crew with a single guy sitting in a video room evaluating each play based on the feeds.  Baseball of all the sports is the most amenable to near full automation as there is minimal contact between the teams as part of the game flow.

Calls on the field have to be made immediately because they determine what fielders and runners do next. We can do that with balls and strikes right now. Maybe someday we'll have the technology for tag calls to be made instantaneously by a computer but until that happens there will still need to be 4 umpires on the field.

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6 minutes ago, jerichoholicninja said:

Calls on the field have to be made immediately because they determine what fielders and runners do next. We can do that with balls and strikes right now. Maybe someday we'll have the technology for tag calls to be made instantaneously by a computer but until that happens there will still need to be 4 umpires on the field.

I agree there's a need for at least 1, but I think we're not far from needing only 1.  The cost of high def cameras is nothing today compared to a full package of salary/benefits for an umpire. You could have 4 different angles on each base plus the lines and fences covered with minimal cost for each stadium.  One umpire watching the feeds could easily cover the calls needed to be made in real-time.  Having the extra angles on each play would likely add to the accuracy as each umpire right now only has one POV.

I wonder if there's been a study to show how much each umpire is actually involved with the game flow/decision making.  I'm guess it's home, 1B, 2B, 3B in that order of "activity", but 3B could be higher than 2B depending on foul balls/check swings compared to tags at 2B.

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21 minutes ago, owbc said:

The main reason I want robo umps is to get the "MLB Gameday" interface up on the scoreboard. I think it will greatly enhance the viewing experience at a game. 

I hope I'm around long enough for the VR headsets that allow you to watch the game while overlaying Gameday with access to other live feeds going on so you can watch other games when scoring or key plays occur. 

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2 hours ago, NBBrewFan said:

I hope I'm around long enough for the VR headsets that allow you to watch the game while overlaying Gameday with access to other live feeds going on so you can watch other games when scoring or key plays occur. 

Don't know how old you are but I'm betting within 5-10 years we'll have amazing sports (and other entertainment options) VR experiences. With Meta/Oculus really gaining broad market appeal and tech advances, hi def VR sports will be here soon.

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37 minutes ago, djoctagone said:

 

I just saw this, too, and was coming to post it.  And then I sat here thinking, “Is this real?  Or are they planking us today?”

_-edit-  Planking is the new wave way of saying pranking, apparently.  (or my phone did the auto-correct thing without me noticing)

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If robocalling does not become a thing, then I want accountability for umpires. There are a handful of umpires that are consistently bad year after year in terms of their ball and strike calling (one less now with Joe West retiring - Yay!).  Nothing ever happens to them! They are just allowed to continue to umpire and some of them (i.e. Joe West last year) get rewarded with post season work.  I don't understand this at all.

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2 hours ago, Patrick425 said:

If robocalling does not become a thing, then I want accountability for umpires. There are a handful of umpires that are consistently bad year after year in terms of their ball and strike calling (one less now with Joe West retiring - Yay!).  Nothing ever happens to them! They are just allowed to continue to umpire and some of them (i.e. Joe West last year) get rewarded with post season work.  I don't understand this at all.

Angel Hernandez disagrees with you... ?

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I have to agree with issues about umpires, but what is most frustrating for me is that the MLB keeps and tracks statistics for umpires. They use these stats such as missed balls/strikes calls to rate them and they do nothing with the information. Im sick of umpires creating their own zones and affecting the results of games. Especially umpires like Angel Hernandez who regularly miss calls should be held accountable.  The worst part about A Hernandez type umpires is that they are trying to put their stamp on the game and its outcome and that's not what their job is.  It almost seems like a jealousy thing where they want to be the star and for fans to recognize them. Nobody should ever remember a game and its outcome because of a call the umpire made. 

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I don't know if this is the place to put this, but I just watched the highlights from the DET v CHI game where the final out in the 9th was overturned by review.  MLB wants umpires mic'ed so they can explain the review.  The Ump goes ahead and basically just repeats what was obvious without giving any context. "Call on the field was overturned.  Runner is safe. Run scores." Yeah, but it was overturned because "ball hit the wall before it was caught by the outfielder. call on the field is overturned, blah blah blah".  Why have them explain what is clear anyways, it's the specifics of why the review was overturned or not that seems to be what was intended from having the umpire announce the result. Maybe a full year of study in the minors was necessary to do the obvious.

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Sadly, that's exactly what I was expecting to happen when this was announced.  Maybe it will take a week or 2 for them to open up a bit, but I won't hold my breath.

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