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Divisional Round: 49ers @ Packers - Saturday, January 22nd 7:15PM


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I'm more referring to national media and the Twitter verse. That whole piling on has been due the vaccine and ramped up with the whole "I'm immunized."

 

Probably so, but 80-90 percent of the people who don't cling to everything being spewed on Twitter could care less about what is being put out online right now.

 

For me being willing to move on has 100 percent what's happened on the field in the playoffs - particularly in cold weather games. I thought Favre really showed his age in that nfccg against the giants. Could he still play and play really well? Sure, but it sure seemed like the cold impacted him much more as he aged. To me, Rodgers looked very diminished last night in the elements. He was inaccurate and didn't seem to go through progressions or even attempt to spread the ball around after he got hit a few times, and just was much more impacted by the pass rush than I've seen in a while, probably since 2019, perhaps since the game at Tampa in 2020. Weather impacted everyone to some degree, but I think it just is more pronounced on older players.

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Well yeah it's never zero but the 49ers have no 1st round pick in 2022 or 2023 so I'd be shocked if they were able to put together a package for Rodgers.

 

How bad do they want to win?

 

Lance for Rodgers in some sort of package deal?

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I really want to know why they didn't start Nijman.

 

This is still a contention of mine today. How, in their right mind, did they choose to opt-in Billy Turner on the Left side of the Line? It made zero sense pre-game, in-game, or post-game. If you are adamant on playing Dennis Kelly, stick Billy Turner at RG - keep him on the side he has actually had significant success. Place his clearly bigger size across from Armstead - who feasted on Patrick all 2nd half. Another in a string of bad decisions by the offensive staff. Frustrating.

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ARod in the stands at a Lambeau playoff game is the quintessential example of not selling your tickets. Puke.

 

Hey he had a Packer hat on

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Just got back from Pick 'n Save. They had "2021 Division Champion" T-Shirts for $30. Yeah, I can see that being a hot item. I don't see any of their cartoon characters shopping for one in any upcoming TV ads.

 

Yeah, there's only so many times you can cherish those "championships". I stopped after 2014. But there are some fans out there that are satisfied with those, at least as long as they keep winning. That looks to be coming to an end.

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Well yeah it's never zero but the 49ers have no 1st round pick in 2022 or 2023 so I'd be shocked if they were able to put together a package for Rodgers.

 

How bad do they want to win?

 

Lance for Rodgers in some sort of package deal?

Only if the Packers are kicking in a couple first round picks.

Fan is short for fanatic.

I blame Wang.

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ARod in the stands at a Lambeau playoff game is the quintessential example of not selling your tickets. Puke.

 

Hey he had a Packer hat on

 

I’d prefer it if he didn’t. Anyways, Hats mean nothing, if I remember correctly.

 

Honestly who cares, celebrities go to games all the time, and people have lives outside of professional sports and have legitimate reasons to sell their tickets all the time. Lack of fan support in the stadium was not a reason that they lost.

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Well yeah it's never zero but the 49ers have no 1st round pick in 2022 or 2023 so I'd be shocked if they were able to put together a package for Rodgers.

 

How bad do they want to win?

 

Lance for Rodgers in some sort of package deal?

Only if the Packers are kicking in a couple first round picks.

 

LOL ... Lance is a decent prospect, but not THAT decent. There are QBs in every draft who are comparable talentwise, including this one.

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I'm more referring to national media and the Twitter verse. That whole piling on has been due the vaccine and ramped up with the whole "I'm immunized."

 

The ramping up of piling on Rodgers has been a thing for years and just gets added onto anything happens. Whether it is logical to pile on him for it or not. I don't really think the vaccine thing makes that much of a difference. People are piling on him for the offseason and wanting to win...then not playing like an MVP and losing in the divisional round.

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Three of the Packers' five lowest-graded defensive players were Jaire Alexander, Whitney Mercilus and Za'Darius Smith.

 

Two of the Packers' five lowest-graded offensive players were Josh Myers and Randall Cobb.

 

 

This is what I meant when I said we might be expecting too much of the guys coming back.

 

Alexander was absolutely terrible and was to blame on a few notable plays late in the game. There was the big third down play late and Alexander got beat so bad on the slant route it was like his feet were in cement.

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I don't like the blame one unit\ player mentality. Obviously special teams was a problem, 10 points was a problem. Outside of the defense, which played well and the first drive of the game there's a whole lot of disappointment. Is it coaching, is it personnel, likely some of both. As seen for the last 30 years, having a HOF QB will win you a lot of regulars season games but doesn't always equate to championships. I'm probably going with an unpopular opinion here, but Rodgers needs to share the blame on this one. One of his biggest strengths is taking care of the ball; also one of his biggest weaknesses is taking care of the ball. Rarely do you see him just flat out throw the ball and give his guy a chance to make a play. In a game where the SF defense was very good and they put a fair amount of pressure on him, I feel he needed to take more risk and let some guys try and make a play even if he didn't feel 100% about the throw or their ability to make it. For a decade now, we've been hearing all about "no defense", "Aaron need more play makers", "bad coaching", etc. At what point does the guy taking up 20% of the payroll have to be the guy to get it done? They've been in position with everything to their advantage in the play-off scenario multiple times and consistently come up short. Championships are hard to win and we're spoiled as Packer fans but I think the time for Rodgers being the reason they win a championship is over. Going to be an interesting off-season.
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One thing that still sticks in my craw about this game was the overturned fumble for San Fran right after Lewis' fumble that would've set the Packers right back up in 49er territory in the 1st quarter.

 

Aiyuk caught the ball, two feet hit the ground (1st foot immediately after he caught the ball, if players can scrape a cleat on the sideline and have that count as a foot being down the instant the ball hits their hands then Aiyuk's 1st foot hitting the ground on the run should DEFINITELY count, too), and he was turning upfield - to me turning upfield is an example of "making a football move" that constitutes making a catch after two feet have already hit the ground. Nowhere in the rulebook does it say the receiver has to get a third foot down in the middle of the field in order for it to be a fumble instead of an incompletion. The ruling on the field was a fumble, and league review of the turnover overturned it despite no indisputable evidence that should have changed that ruling. Had they ruled the play incomplete and GB challenged I think there'd have been better than a 50% chance the call would've gotten changed to a fumble. It's one thing for the league review to overturn questionable fumble calls whether a QB's hand is moving forward or if a RB's knee/elbow hits before the ball comes out - but I feel that reversal really impacted how the rest of the 1st half played out and don't think there was enough for them to rule the play an incomplete pass and overturn the call on the field. Sure, SF wound up with a 3 and out offensively - but GB took over possession deep in their own territory after a punt instead of around the SF40. That play influenced GB's starting field position for the rest of the 1st half once things ground down to a defensive struggle - getting their offense right back on the field in that spot might have led to more points on the board and changed how the game unfolded even if the offense wasn't going to put up 30 points saturday night.

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I'm more referring to national media and the Twitter verse. That whole piling on has been due the vaccine and ramped up with the whole "I'm immunized."

 

The ramping up of piling on Rodgers has been a thing for years and just gets added onto anything happens. Whether it is logical to pile on him for it or not. I don't really think the vaccine thing makes that much of a difference. People are piling on him for the offseason and wanting to win...then not playing like an MVP and losing in the divisional round.

 

Yeah...I think this is way off the mark. He is getting absolutely skewered online, 90% of it jokes about being "unmasked" or "not getting his shot." Anyone of his stature will have their share of detractors. But in the last 12 months he has probably become the most-hated player, or most polarizing player in the league. You don't stick your face in such a hot-button issue and speak vocally about your position without making a lot of new enemies. What you're saying is true but it was localized to football/sports. You have the president of the country calling him a goofball now. It's elevated.

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I'm more referring to national media and the Twitter verse. That whole piling on has been due the vaccine and ramped up with the whole "I'm immunized."

 

The ramping up of piling on Rodgers has been a thing for years and just gets added onto anything happens. Whether it is logical to pile on him for it or not. I don't really think the vaccine thing makes that much of a difference. People are piling on him for the offseason and wanting to win...then not playing like an MVP and losing in the divisional round.

 

Yeah...I think this is way off the mark. He is getting absolutely skewered online, 90% of it jokes about being "unmasked" or "not getting his shot." Anyone of his stature will have their share of detractors. But in the last 12 months he has probably become the most-hated player, or most polarizing player in the league. You don't stick your face in such a hot-button issue and speak vocally about your position without making a lot of new enemies. What you're saying is true but it was localized to football/sports. You have the president of the country calling him a goofball now. It's elevated.

 

We are on two different spectrums of the internet then. Though to be fair I don't go seek out articles after my team gets embarrassed so 90% of what I see is posted by facebook friends that like the bears/vikings and live in rural Wisconsin...so jokes about vaccinations and masks don't hold much appeal.

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How bad do they want to win?

 

Lance for Rodgers in some sort of package deal?

Only if the Packers are kicking in a couple first round picks.

 

LOL ... Lance is a decent prospect, but not THAT decent. There are QBs in every draft who are comparable talentwise, including this one.

Maybe, but they are not giving up Lance straight up for Rodgers after trading 3 first round picks just a year ago. So yeah, the Packers would need to kick in a couple first round picks if they want to unload Rodgers to the 49ers.

Fan is short for fanatic.

I blame Wang.

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My guess is they have no intention of targeting a QB anyway. They have two years invested in Love and would like to at least see what they've got.

 

Likely that they'll use any draft capital from a Rodgers deal to continue to build a defensive minded team around Gary and Alexander and Clark, and probably look to add a weapon or two offensively for Love. Adams is a goner. 2022 is a very deep WR class, which is good because we are going to be in dire need. Two WRs added in the first two days of the draft would not shock me.

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I am not in love with the idea of extending Adams again regardless of who the QB is. The third contract is seldom good for the team. He most likely washes out before it expires and they are left with a couple years of more albatross. It's hard to envision a scenario in which they have Rodgers but not Adams. It's another layer of complication to the whole thing.

 

I would rather have Rodgers through 2024 than I would extend Adams. I think both are gone, but a silver lining for me of Rodgers leaving is that they get an out from being crucified for not paying Adams. I'm sure he'll have a fine season next year, maybe two. But I just don't see it as a wise investment from where they are probably standing.

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My guess is they have no intention of targeting a QB anyway. They have two years invested in Love and would like to at least see what they've got.

 

Likely that they'll use any draft capital from a Rodgers deal to continue to build a defensive minded team around Gary and Alexander and Clark, and probably look to add a weapon or two offensively for Love. Adams is a goner. 2022 is a very deep WR class, which is good because we are going to be in dire need. Two WRs added in the first two days of the draft would not shock me.

 

Too bad they didn't do this before now that Rodgers is most likely gone. Hard to go all the way when your receiving corps consists of Davante Adams and a bunch of palookas that would be #4 receivers just about anywhere else, but management was content to continue with the "Do something, Aaron" offense because hey, it's working.

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