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Game 14: Packers @ Ravens - Sunday, December 19th, 3:25 PM CT


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Love the decision to go for 2.

 

I like it if they would pretty much won the game…but Rodgers still had 42 seconds. That’s a massive amount of risk to still be in an iffy situation.

 

I think I would have forced the Packers to get a field goal in 42 seconds with just a timeout.

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Love the decision to go for 2.

 

I like it if they would pretty much won the game…but Rodgers still had 42 seconds. That’s a massive amount of risk to still be in an iffy situation.

 

I think I would have forced the Packers to get a field goal in 42 seconds with just a timeout.

 

That was my thinking with my original comment of going for it only if there was no time left for GB. Either way, I like the courage. But I think that's actually why you go for it. If you're up 1, GB HAS to go down the field, and the kicking game has not exactly been great. If you tie it, GB still has a chance to get a FG but is content to go to OT. I think you play your highest % to beat Rodgers with your backup QB, which imo is just going for 2 and hoping you can hold them off for 40 seconds.

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Harbaugh aggressive calls bit him today.

 

Going for it in first quarter, going for it on your own 29, and the 2 at the end.

That's why you don't play analytics five minutes into the game.

 

He had other aggressive calls that worked out fine. I don't know how many times this sort of discussion has to happen before people acknowledge that these scenarios don't exist in a vacuum and the events that follow are changed by the decisions.

 

You can't just tack 3 points on to the final score and go "See, he was wrong."

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For the crap thrown at Savage today, Gary had a worse game. Dont think he stayed home on any passing down I seen. Didnt matter how many times Huntley or an offensive playcall exposed his poor gameplay, Gary just kept leaving one side of the field an oasis for Huntley.

Almost blew a 14pt lead with possession inside the 35 and under 6? Min to go. Dillon needed to finish this game and they had Jones out there on that drive.

Positive end felt like we didn't lose anybody today, got a Division clinching win on the road. Rodgers will set the TD record in GB on Christmas. MVS had a great game, hard to not believe we dont finish with 3rd straight 13Win season. I imagine a few newer franchises haven't had 3 13 win seasons.

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I thought both the go for it at the 29 and the 2 point conversion were at least arguable but there has to be some nuance in the aggressive play calling. Rodgers would have likely gotten the pack in FG range either way so we would have sweated it out with Crosby. Of course we would have probably started at the 5 after some ST blunder.
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Going for 2 was 100% fine. Anyone harping on that some horrible call is really being disingenuous given what BAL was up against today. The 4th down attempt at the end that failed was also a call I would have made. I probably would have kicked the FG on the game's opening drive but I can see why he'd want them to play with house money today.
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I thought both the go for it at the 29 and the 2 point conversion were at least arguable but there has to be some nuance in the aggressive play calling. Rodgers would have likely gotten the pack in FG range either way so we would have sweated it out with Crosby. Of course we would have probably started at the 5 after some ST blunder.

 

 

The 4th down call - there were 12 minutes left and they were down two scores. After GB kicks a FG they were still down two scores and there was 9:30 left. If they punt and GB goes down the field like they had all game long, they might end up being down two scores with something like 4 minutes left.

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League average on 2 pt conversions is 50%. If you make it, you're forcing Rodgers to go 30 - 40 yards to give Crosby his 60% chance at a field goal before taking the W. There's a lot of math manipulation there, but it's not a bad call. It's not a right or wrong call, it's just not a bad call.

 

Going for it on 4th at their own 29 wasn't a bad call. If the Packers didn't score a TD, they had plenty of time to score twice, which is exactly what they did. If they punt the ball away, they were giving the Packers a a lot of field to eat a lot of clock and put the game completely out of reach.

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For the crap thrown at Savage today, Gary had a worse game. Dont think he stayed home on any passing down I seen. Didnt matter how many times Huntley or an offensive playcall exposed his poor gameplay, Gary just kept leaving one side of the field an oasis for Huntley.

I don't recall seeing Huntley with a significant run to Gary's side. The long runs that Huntley had, from what I recall, were either to the other side or up the middle. Gary had some great pressures that forced Huntley to abort the pass and I recall a couple of 5 or so yard runs to Gary's side. But Gary's pressures to disrupt the passing game, especially in the 2nd half, were key to slowing down their offense.

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I kinda like Huntley. He might be starting for Texans or WFT or Carolina or ? next year.
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For the crap thrown at Savage today, Gary had a worse game. Dont think he stayed home on any passing down I seen. Didnt matter how many times Huntley or an offensive playcall exposed his poor gameplay, Gary just kept leaving one side of the field an oasis for Huntley.

Almost blew a 14pt lead with possession inside the 35 and under 6? Min to go. Dillon needed to finish this game and they had Jones out there on that drive.

Positive end felt like we didn't lose anybody today, got a Division clinching win on the road. Rodgers will set the TD record in GB on Christmas. MVS had a great game, hard to not believe we dont finish with 3rd straight 13Win season. I imagine a few newer franchises haven't had 3 13 win seasons.

 

I'm firmly convinced Kenny Clark is the most valuable player on D.

He's the key to the middle of the defense that allows Gary and Smith to work on the edges and hold the middle on the run game.

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I thought both the go for it at the 29 and the 2 point conversion were at least arguable but there has to be some nuance in the aggressive play calling. Rodgers would have likely gotten the pack in FG range either way so we would have sweated it out with Crosby. Of course we would have probably started at the 5 after some ST blunder.

 

 

The 4th down call - there were 12 minutes left and they were down two scores. After GB kicks a FG they were still down two scores and there was 9:30 left. If they punt and GB goes down the field like they had all game long, they might end up being down two scores with something like 4 minutes left.

 

Yes, that was a similar call to that play in the recent Viking-Detroit game that was debated here. Packers have to get the TD to make them pay and they didn't.

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The first drive instead of taking the field goal, they stopped the Packers, got a short field and a TD. Which is one of the reason you go on 4th down deep.

Harbaugh and Baltimore were operating as if they were a 7+ point underdog. Which they were. Its also why The OT was not really 50/50 to win, but like 66/33 like the beginning of the game.

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The first drive instead of taking the field goal, they stopped the Packers, got a short field and a TD. Which is one of the reason you go on 4th down deep.

Harbaugh and Baltimore were operating as if they were a 7+ point underdog. Which they were. Its also why The OT was not really 50/50 to win, but like 66/33 like the beginning of the game.

 

The only counter argument i can make is the Baltimore defense has just held the Packers to a short field fg and a 3 and out while the Packers D got shredded on back to back TD drives. If Baltimore wins the coin toss they might match down and win it.

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For the crap thrown at Savage today, Gary had a worse game. Dont think he stayed home on any passing down I seen. Didnt matter how many times Huntley or an offensive playcall exposed his poor gameplay, Gary just kept leaving one side of the field an oasis for Huntley.

Almost blew a 14pt lead with possession inside the 35 and under 6? Min to go. Dillon needed to finish this game and they had Jones out there on that drive.

Positive end felt like we didn't lose anybody today, got a Division clinching win on the road. Rodgers will set the TD record in GB on Christmas. MVS had a great game, hard to not believe we dont finish with 3rd straight 13Win season. I imagine a few newer franchises haven't had 3 13 win seasons.

 

I'm firmly convinced Kenny Clark is the most valuable player on D.

He's the key to the middle of the defense that allows Gary and Smith to work on the edges and hold the middle on the run game.

 

It may not be rushing yards for Huntley, but easy escape from a rush and some chunks of passing yards. I'm certain Huntley got a 1st down around Gary's edge on 1 occasion.

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The delay of game on the punt might have been the most pathetic penalty of all time. They were fully set with like 7 seconds left on the play clock.
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