2022 Brewers Prospect Rankings

[CheeseheadInQC]

It appears as if one of the bigger knocks on the Brewers' system (along with pitching depth) is the lack of that true No. 1, top 25 overall type prospect. Thinking about who could be that guy if they have one after this coming year, Wiemer and Mitchell seem like the obvious picks, but I wonder if the guy with the clearest path there might not be Quero. A catching prospect who it seems like everyone agrees will stick behind the plate and has no makeup issues. If he can come even close to replicating his complex league stats across the A-ball levels this coming season, I have to think he's the system's biggest riser.

I've seen a lot of guys like Quero come and go at this point. My opinion has turned into wake me when their crushing A+ at least. Although now that we have 3 highly rated young intl guys, maybe we'll finally hit with 1 of them.

 

I'm not saying that Quero is the best prospect in the system (I'd have him in the 6-8 range), just that he is among the best positioned to rocket up the type of lists that are being posted here. Premium position, enough hype not to be considered a pop-up prospect, etc.

[sveumrules]

Ashby comes in at #46 (12th pitcher on the list if I counted right) and Wiemer #78 on the FanGraphs Top 114...

 

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/2022-top-100-prospects/

[sveumrules]

I'm not saying that Quero is the best prospect in the system (I'd have him in the 6-8 range), just that he is among the best positioned to rocket up the type of lists that are being posted here. Premium position, enough hype not to be considered a pop-up prospect, etc.

 

Kind of fun reading the FG list from today & seeing some players with obviously more advanced & souped up, but still the same general profiles, as guys in the Brewers system.

 

Of course we're talking about best case scenario type outcomes, but reading the Francisco Alvarez (#7) write up, there's definitely some Quero in there as a Venezuelan catcher with pop who makes good swing decisions & should be able to stick behind the plate.

 

Or Corbin Carroll (#14) being where Mitchell could be a year from now if everything breaks right. Hit over power profile (but the raw is there) who is fast enough to stay in CF with injury concerns, possibly tied to all out play style.

 

You can even squint at Oneil Cruz (#8) & see a little Wiemer in there. Imposing physical specimens with plus power, wheels & arms, but concerns about how much contact they'll make. Cruz is a SS at the moment which is a huge difference, but at 6' 7" RF is prolly his more likely long term position.

[sveumrules]

Sal Frelick getting a mention in the Well Rounded Up The Middle Prospects section of the FanGraphs Picks To Click article looking at possible 2023 Top 100 Candidates...

 

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/picks-to-click-who-we-expect-to-make-the-2023-top-100/

[markedman5]

Joe Gray Jr thinks Wiemer is the best prospect in the organization

 

[Joseph Zarr]

Joe Gray Jr thinks Wiemer is the best prospect in the organization

 

 

 

He isn’t wrong

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

***I might be biased

[sveumrules]

I've got Ashby/Wiemer together in the top tier myself. I could see the case for either as #1,

 

Ashby has electric stuff & already had success at the MLB level, so he should be #1. But maybe his command limits him to the bullpen so maybe not.

 

Wiemer's an athletic marvel with the best power/speed/arm/hair combo in the system, so he should be #1. But he's only really done it for like half a season & not at AA yet so maybe not.

 

I mostly just want the lockout to be over so we can get a new BF.net Top 25 going for 2022. I've got 29 guys on my list at the moment so if Stearns & company want to wheel & deal once the CBA is settled they should have some ammo to do so.

[Joseph Zarr]

I've got Ashby/Wiemer together in the top tier myself. I could see the case for either as #1,

 

Ashby has electric stuff & already had success at the MLB level, so he should be #1. But maybe his command limits him to the bullpen so maybe not.

 

Wiemer's an athletic marvel with the best power/speed/arm/hair combo in the system, so he should be #1. But he's only really done it for like half a season & not at AA yet so maybe not.

 

I mostly just want the lockout to be over so we can get a new BF.net Top 25 going for 2022. I've got 29 guys on my list at the moment so if Stearns & company want to wheel & deal once the CBA is settled they should have some ammo to do so.

 

I have 2 major disappointments this Brewers off-season:

 

(1) The Lock-Out

(2) Joey Weimer's haircut.

[Mass Haas]

Kyle Lobner's latest at Shepherd Express

[markedman5]

https://www.mlb.com/prospects/2022/top100

[wibadgers23]

2 hours ago, markedman5 said:

https://www.mlb.com/prospects/2022/top100

Interesting…Frelick and Wiemer in the top 100 but no Mitchell or Turang.

[KeithStone53151]

I feel like wiemer being fringe top 100 is a good hedge for him at this point considering his production/tools but that he hasn't done it in the upper minors yet. I feel very confident that one way or another, he won't be fringe top 100 in 6 months. Either he'll be top 20 or around 300/400 at best

[Joseph Zarr]

I approve of Joey Wiemer entering mlb's top 100. May he simply grow his hair long and may his locks flow and sparkle in the winds as he circles the bases. 

[CheeseheadInQC]

Looks like MLB.com's list came out a couple days ago. Outside of Frelick being a little higher and Feliciano a little lower, it isn't that far off what the prospect poll here is probably going to end up looking like. I guess the biggest surprise would be Cam Robinson cracking the top 30, It has a consensus ranking feel to it.

[sveumrules]

On 12/14/2021 at 6:48 PM, sveumrules said:

None of these lower level pitchers who couldn't legally drink last summer will probably make any prospect lists, but they'll be on my box score watch list for next summer...

 

Pablo Garabitos (20) | ACL | 15 IP | 19 K | 2 BB

Michael Perdomo (19) | DSL | 36 IP | 47 K | 8 BB

Domingo Mejia (19) | DSL | 50 IP | 67 K | 13 BB

Israel Puello (20) | ACL | 27 IP | 37 K | 9 BB

Edwin Jimenez (19) | ACL/DSL | 39 IP | 48 K | 12 BB

Rafael Camacho (18) | DSL | 45 IP | 42 K | 11 BB

Kevin Briceno (18) | DSL | 26 IP | 26 K | 7 BB

Alexander Cornielle (19) | ACL/CAR | 41 IP | 60 K | 18 BB

Stiven Cruz (19) | DSL | 52 IP | 73 K | 23 BB

 

Also intrigued by Leoni De La Cruz, who apparently didn't sign until he was 23 for some reason, but posted 39 K | 10 BB over 29 IP split between DSL/ACL, and Indy League signing James Meeker who racked up 22 K | 5 BB over 18 IP at CAR, though he was 26.

With Israel Puello, Stiven Cruz and Leoni De La Cruz all having strong outings the last couple days & the season being a few months in now thought I’d check back on my DSL/ACL follow list from last winter…

Garabitos | A | 21 IP | 27 K | 11 BB

Puello | A/A+ | 68 IP | 77 K | 22 BB

Jimenez | A | 69 IP | 63 K | 27 BB

Briceno | DSL | 28 IP | 31 K | 5 BB

Cornielle | A | 68 IP IP | 83 K | 43 BB

S Cruz | A | 54 IP | 62 K | 11 BB

De La Cruz | ACL | 13 IP | 21 K | 5 BB

Perdomo and Mejia only have like a dozen innings each so far & Camacho hasn’t pitched at all, but the other seven have had varying degrees of successful seasons to this point in the summer. Pretty encouraging stuff.

A few of the guys have already seen pretty big IP jumps. Wonder if they’ll maybe start dialing some of them back after the draft. 

[CheeseheadInQC]

1 hour ago, sveumrules said:

With Israel Puello, Stiven Cruz and Leoni De La Cruz all having strong outings the last couple days & the season being a few months in now thought I’d check back on my DSL/ACL follow list from last winter…

Garabitos | A | 21 IP | 27 K | 11 BB

Puello | A/A+ | 68 IP | 77 K | 22 BB

Jimenez | A | 69 IP | 63 K | 27 BB

Briceno | DSL | 28 IP | 31 K | 5 BB

Cornielle | A | 68 IP IP | 83 K | 43 BB

S Cruz | A | 54 IP | 62 K | 11 BB

De La Cruz | ACL | 13 IP | 21 K | 5 BB

Perdomo and Mejia only have like a dozen innings each so far & Camacho hasn’t pitched at all, but the other seven have had varying degrees of successful seasons to this point in the summer. Pretty encouraging stuff.

A few of the guys have already seen pretty big IP jumps. Wonder if they’ll maybe start dialing some of them back after the draft. 

I kind of thought before the season that the Brewers needed three of the youngsters to emerge from that Carolina rotation, and in Rodriguez, Puello and Cruz (even if he wasn't on the initial staff) it seems like they got it. Now if only Cornielle begins to develop more consistency, he could easily make it four.

[Joseph Zarr]

I still remember this 2018 Box Score:

AZL, Cam crush began, Garabitos dub/2rbi/SB.

He hasn’t pitched in two weeks. I continue to find him an arm and man of mystery.

Also, I keep waiting for Edwin Jimenez to put together multiple Starts but, at this stage, we simply have another inconsistent young hurler. I still see Mike Fiers in his stuff but he’s really going to have to fine-tune placement/pitch mix etc as he matures.  He’ll turn 21 in December. Very important starts as he looks to close 2022 on a good note.

[wibadgers23]

Looks like we might be able to add another prospect to the top 100 list. I’m also looking forward to seeing where guys like Chourio and Frelick end up being ranked at season’s end. Guessing Chourio lands in the top 15.

 

[wibadgers23]

Two Brewers in Baseball America’s updated top 100 list - Chourio all the way up to #2 and Frelick at 75.

[BallFour]

https://www.prospectslive.com/prospects-live/2022/8/10/2022-midseason-top-100-prospects

Prospects Live has 4 Brewers in the midseason top 100. Suprised Mis is a top 100 guy already.

7. Jackson Chourio

71. Joey Wiemer

73. Sal Frelick

98. Jacob Misiorowski

 

[PlayerHader]

24 minutes ago, BallFour said:

https://www.prospectslive.com/prospects-live/2022/8/10/2022-midseason-top-100-prospects

Prospects Live has 4 Brewers in the midseason top 100. Suprised Mis is a top 100 guy already.

7. Jackson Chourio

71. Joey Wiemer

73. Sal Frelick

98. Jacob Misiorowski

 

[wibadgers23]

Do they usually wait until after the AFL to release end of year prospect rankings?  I'm really curious to see who lands in the top 100 for the Brewers.  You'd have to think Chourio and Frelick are locks with guys like Turang, Wiemer, Quero, Gasser, and Misiorowski also being possbilities.

[Brewcrew82]

4 hours ago, wibadgers23 said:

Do they usually wait until after the AFL to release end of year prospect rankings?  I'm really curious to see who lands in the top 100 for the Brewers.  You'd have to think Chourio and Frelick are locks with guys like Turang, Wiemer, Quero, Gasser, and Misiorowski also being possbilities.

Here's one from Just Baseball. 6 Brewers in top 100. Chourio at 11, Frelick at 41, Turang at 58, Wiemer at 64, Ruiz at 92; and Gasser at 99. 

https://www.justbaseball.com/prospects/2022-mlb-top-100-prospects/

[sveumrules]

FanGraphs updated their Top 100 for end of season, Chourio #5, Wiemer #79, Turang #82. Also had this blurb on Jackson…

Even while Chourio was performing from a surface-level stat standpoint, he had among the worst in-zone contact rates in minor league baseball for a time. In the 62 games he played at Low-A, only nine were played in ballparks with park factors under 115 according to Matt Eddy’s research on minor league park factors. Milwaukee’s Low-A ballpark has a home park factor of 115 and a home run park factor of 124 (!), and aside from the nine games I mentioned, Chourio played all of his road games in parks that were at least as offense-friendly as his home park. He slashed .324/.373/.600 in Low-A despite being in the bottom 10% of minor league in-zone contact rate during that span.

The thing about Chourio to remember, though, is that he’s just 18 years old and has quickly grown into elite bat speed. His in-zone contact rate improved throughout the season even as he was promoted, and he ended the year with a 76% in-zone contact mark. Analysts I’ve spoken to about this are split as to whether or not they are concerned about Chourio’s bat-to-ball skills. I do think there’s some risk here, but this is a player with a shot at being a 70 FV, so even as I’m baking risk into FV grades, he needs to be in that 60 FV tier.

[wiguy94]

49 minutes ago, sveumrules said:

FanGraphs updated their Top 100 for end of season, Chourio #5, Wiemer #79, Turang #82. Also had this blurb on Jackson…

Even while Chourio was performing from a surface-level stat standpoint, he had among the worst in-zone contact rates in minor league baseball for a time. In the 62 games he played at Low-A, only nine were played in ballparks with park factors under 115 according to Matt Eddy’s research on minor league park factors. Milwaukee’s Low-A ballpark has a home park factor of 115 and a home run park factor of 124 (!), and aside from the nine games I mentioned, Chourio played all of his road games in parks that were at least as offense-friendly as his home park. He slashed .324/.373/.600 in Low-A despite being in the bottom 10% of minor league in-zone contact rate during that span.

The thing about Chourio to remember, though, is that he’s just 18 years old and has quickly grown into elite bat speed. His in-zone contact rate improved throughout the season even as he was promoted, and he ended the year with a 76% in-zone contact mark. Analysts I’ve spoken to about this are split as to whether or not they are concerned about Chourio’s bat-to-ball skills. I do think there’s some risk here, but this is a player with a shot at being a 70 FV, so even as I’m baking risk into FV grades, he needs to be in that 60 FV tier.

I continue to be a bit stunned by Longenhagen's bearishness towards Frelick especially after rating Kwan so highly after 2021.