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Game 11: Packers @ Vikings - Sunday, November 21st, Noon CT


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Completely with you here as well. I've missed 3 games this year (coincidentally all 3 losses) because I've basically adopted a policy of "if anything comes up, I'll skip the game." It's nice to be a winning team, but at this point there is definitely a "just make the Super Bowl already, and I don't trust you until you do" mentality for me.

That seems healthy. I’m emotionally divested from the Brewers, Bucks, and all local college or high school teams. I like those teams. I hope they win. But at the end of the day, losses don’t bum me out all that much - not even crushing playoff defeats. The Packers are the one team where I ride the roller coaster (probably due to the my love of the 90s Packers in my youth).

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In other news, I watched the game via NFL app and one of the announcers made an explanation about running the playclock down to 5 secs or less to actually present a purpose. Now, it's always been explained in that Rodgers was reading the defense. I had never heard it explained that a defense as the play clock winds down have adjustments in their coverage. something like at 6 secs left they run one type of coverage, at 3 secs they run one different than at 6. Rodgers running the clock down basically reduced the amount of coverages he was being shown. Sorta like he was forcing the defense to play what he wanted them to play was the take I got out of it. And now theres mildly less hate for the constant run the playclock to near 0 in the 1st or 3rd quarter and call a timeout.
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And now theres mildly less hate for the constant run the playclock to near 0 in the 1st or 3rd quarter and call a timeout.

I’ve always figured some of the neat things Rodgers does during the play are a product of him taking advantage of the allotted time to diagnose the defense. I guess my angst stems from the Packers seemingly coming out flat after every time out.

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In other news, I watched the game via NFL app and one of the announcers made an explanation about running the playclock down to 5 secs or less to actually present a purpose. Now, it's always been explained in that Rodgers was reading the defense. I had never heard it explained that a defense as the play clock winds down have adjustments in their coverage. something like at 6 secs left they run one type of coverage, at 3 secs they run one different than at 6. Rodgers running the clock down basically reduced the amount of coverages he was being shown. Sorta like he was forcing the defense to play what he wanted them to play was the take I got out of it. And now theres mildly less hate for the constant run the playclock to near 0 in the 1st or 3rd quarter and call a timeout.

 

It just made them come out of the disguised coverage. I'm sure if they were playing the coverage Rodgers wanted them to play,we'd have won by 100 points. :laughing

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In other news, I watched the game via NFL app and one of the announcers made an explanation about running the playclock down to 5 secs or less to actually present a purpose. Now, it's always been explained in that Rodgers was reading the defense. I had never heard it explained that a defense as the play clock winds down have adjustments in their coverage. something like at 6 secs left they run one type of coverage, at 3 secs they run one different than at 6. Rodgers running the clock down basically reduced the amount of coverages he was being shown. Sorta like he was forcing the defense to play what he wanted them to play was the take I got out of it. And now theres mildly less hate for the constant run the playclock to near 0 in the 1st or 3rd quarter and call a timeout.

 

That doesn't make sense to me. Couldn't the defense just change what coverages they run at the various time interval and then Rodgers is back to guessing what they will do?

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In other news, I watched the game via NFL app and one of the announcers made an explanation about running the playclock down to 5 secs or less to actually present a purpose. Now, it's always been explained in that Rodgers was reading the defense. I had never heard it explained that a defense as the play clock winds down have adjustments in their coverage. something like at 6 secs left they run one type of coverage, at 3 secs they run one different than at 6. Rodgers running the clock down basically reduced the amount of coverages he was being shown. Sorta like he was forcing the defense to play what he wanted them to play was the take I got out of it. And now theres mildly less hate for the constant run the playclock to near 0 in the 1st or 3rd quarter and call a timeout.

 

That doesn't make sense to me. Couldn't the defense just change what coverages they run at the various time interval and then Rodgers is back to guessing what they will do?

 

I'm thinking this is a Rodgers diagnosis thing and experience. Film study that like with a Romo diagnosing a play saying the defense is going to do this correctly. I dunno how it works, and clearly it doesn't result 100percent of the time him making the perfect reads on what the defense is doing. It's just I never had a clue on Defense their play coverage adjusts as time is winding down on playclock.

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The way Vikings fans are acting today, you'd think they just won the dang Super Bowl. They are still a 5-5 team.

 

They play the 49ers next week, which is no gimme. Lions should be a win. Steelers on Thursday, Dec. 9 is a true toss-up . Long lay-off before they face the Bears at Soldier Field on Monday, Dec. 20. Then they get the Rams at home Dec. 26, Packers at Lambeau Jan. 2 and Bears at home Jan. 9.

 

I personally think they lose to the 49ers, Rams and Packers. Even if they sweep the Bears (not an easy task), and beat the Lions and Steelers, that still only puts them at 9-8. That is very much a team with its back against the wall. They have a tough road to even get a playoff spot.

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In other news, I watched the game via NFL app and one of the announcers made an explanation about running the playclock down to 5 secs or less to actually present a purpose. Now, it's always been explained in that Rodgers was reading the defense. I had never heard it explained that a defense as the play clock winds down have adjustments in their coverage. something like at 6 secs left they run one type of coverage, at 3 secs they run one different than at 6. Rodgers running the clock down basically reduced the amount of coverages he was being shown. Sorta like he was forcing the defense to play what he wanted them to play was the take I got out of it. And now theres mildly less hate for the constant run the playclock to near 0 in the 1st or 3rd quarter and call a timeout.

 

That doesn't make sense to me. Couldn't the defense just change what coverages they run at the various time interval and then Rodgers is back to guessing what they will do?

 

That is part of it. That is why he takes a late timeout(doesn't see what he expected to see) or misses open guys, etc. The idea is that the defense wants to be set in there defense at the 3 second mark or 5 second mark or whatever. So Rodgers waits them out and sees where they are moving to try and disguise their coverage.

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The way Vikings fans are acting today, you'd think they just won the dang Super Bowl. They are still a 5-5 team.

 

They play the 49ers next week, which is no gimme. Lions should be a win. Steelers on Thursday, Dec. 9 is a true toss-up . Long lay-off before they face the Bears at Soldier Field on Monday, Dec. 20. Then they get the Rams at home Dec. 26, Packers at Lambeau Jan. 2 and Bears at home Jan. 9.

 

I personally think they lose to the 49ers, Rams and Packers. Even if they sweep the Bears (not an easy task), and beat the Lions and Steelers, that still only puts them at 9-8. That is very much a team with its back against the wall. They have a tough road to even get a playoff spot.

I'm sure beating the Packers is their Super Bowl.

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Very glad I didn't watch the game yesterday. Seems like it was a heartbreaker. But, then again, as Packer fans that's kind of par for the course. Here's hoping they get healthy and played improved in the secondary department next week - that's a very tough game against a QB who is known to pick up yards against GB defenses. The fg kicking woes? I don't even know what to think at this point. Mason is essentially a 50% kicker today...including XP's. That has to be historically bad, no?
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