Packer 2021 Team Discussion 2.0

[OldSchoolSnapper]

They are nowhere near as good at doing either of those things as they were in 2019.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

In the end, there are plenty of reasons why the 49ers are the 6th seed, and barely made the playoffs. Sure, any team can get hot and go on a run, but this 49er team is injured and simply not very good to begin with, as their 10-7 record indicates.

 

50/50 game? Really?

 

Honestly, the only way the Packers drop this game is if they have a full scale implosion.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

They may be 10-7 but they are 9-3 after that 4-game skid. They're a good team, but one dimensional, and not nearly as potent at what they do well as their recent teams. I get the trepidation with what the Packers do in the playoffs, but 50/50? C'mon. Without what happened two years ago I don't think anyone would be that worried about this game.

 

I think the Packers defensives woes are vastly overstated too. They got sloppy down the stretch a bit, but they also had a really strong stretch prior to that. With a lot of guys back and rested I think they'll be OK. And I think the Packers will be able to get their own ground game going just fine.

[homer]

I think SF can win but it would take a huge game on the ground and winning the turnover battle to do it.

[adambr2]

In the end, there are plenty of reasons why the 49ers are the 6th seed, and barely made the playoffs. Sure, any team can get hot and go on a run, but this 49er team is injured and simply not very good to begin with, as their 10-7 record indicates.

 

50/50 game? Really?

 

Honestly, the only way the Packers drop this game is if they have a full scale implosion.

 

The last time we won the Super Bowl we were a 6th seed that barely made the playoffs.

 

I don't agree that they're not very good. As others pointed out, most of their season success has been on the back end of the season. During that stretch they've beaten the Rams twice, they've won in Dallas, and they've won in Cincy. The only game they've lost since December 5th is a very narrow loss in Tennessee.

 

I agree it's not 50/50, and we should win, but saying it would take a full scale implosion to lose to the 49ers is simply not giving them enough credit. They're good.

[HarveysWBs]

The other packer people in my life are nervous about this, and I get it. But it’s the divisional round—are the Rams/Cardinals or Buccaneers coming in here any less scary? I can talk myself into being pessimistic about this matchup, and we’ve all been given plenty of rope to hang our sports psyches with in the last ten years (not to mention the Favre years, which should really have no bearing on this, but fear by nature is often irrational).

 

But the reality is this: unlike in 2019 or 2020, this team did not have a single game this year against a blue-chip squad where they seemed utterly, hopelessly, out of their depth. In 2019, they got emasculated twice against San Fran and that was it. In 2020, they got a similar curb-stomping in Tampa in the regular season. I think they did enough to right the ship down the stretch, and with home field, I think they were the better team, but couldn’t quite get it done. This year is not like that at all. After seeing this team handle the NFC West fairly comfortably, including in LA and in San Fran, with a greatly weakened roster compared to what they’re about to roll out there on Saturday, I have seen nothing that makes me think they aren’t the class of the conference.

 

Make no mistake, they can lose. But they shouldn’t, and if you make me play simulator, I’d give Green Bay 8 out of 10 in Green Bay against San Fran right now, and probably 6 or 7 out of 10 against Tampa. It’s all right there.

[thebruce44]

I don't know why an award for an individual regular season should have career post season success factored in.

Every voter sees it differently. You don’t think some have buyer’s remorse after last year?

 

I can't read minds, but no. I'm not sure what changed about last years regular season after the vote was held. If some voters "see it differently", aka don't follow the guidelines, then they probably shouldn't be voting.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Packers release KeKe to top off a lightning speed fall from grace.

[nodakfan17]

Packers release KeKe to top off a lightning speed fall from grace.

Count me surprised.

[homer]

Wow. Methinks this was not solely a performance thing.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

It couldn't be just performance. I don't see what purpose cutting him now serves them.

[OldHeidelberg]

Wow. Methinks this was not solely a performance thing.

 

He was a healthy scratch a few weeks ago which was never really explained so I think you are right. Weird though as he was probably our third best DL and it's the playoffs.

[LouisEly]

Between this and the likely cuts of the Smiths for cap purposes, they are going to have to invest high draft capital on the defensive front seven yet again.

[FVBrewerFan]

Personal/attitude issues mixed in as well.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Between this and the likely cuts of the Smiths for cap purposes, they are going to have to invest high draft capital on the defensive front seven yet again.

 

This is pretty much an evergreen thought. Good organizations constantly turn over their offensive and defensive lines.

[CheezWizHed]

yes, but we tend to fix our O-line. Our D-line (outside of Clark) has been a bunch of nothing - both in draft capitol and actual production.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

yes, but we tend to fix our O-line. Our D-line (outside of Clark) has been a bunch of nothing - both in draft capitol and actual production.

 

Dean Lowry has been excellent this year. Lancaster has been serviceable. But they definitely could use an infusion of talent there.

[PeaveyFury]

Yes, it is worth giving credit where it's due- Lowry has quietly had a pretty nice year, actually.

[CheezWizHed]

True about Lowry this year. But in the past 4-5 years, we've had at best, 2/3rds of a D-line and often only 1/3rd.

 

In 2016, we spent a 1st on Clark and a 4th on Lowry. After that, a 3rd on Adams (bust), 7th on Looney (turned into a TE), 5th on Keke (looked like a steal at the time, but I guess not), and a 5th on Slayton (good start, but work to do). UDFAs are signed, but I can't think of any regular FAs we've even signed above the vet minimum.

 

We have a habit of finding and continually developing 4th round OL, but we don't draft enough DL to really accomplish the same nor compensate for our level of misses here.

[nodakfan17]

All of the 1st and 2nd round misses at DB have left the Packers thin at other positions because they constantly have to re-draft in the secondary.

[Fear The Chorizo]

All of the 1st and 2nd round misses at DB have left the Packers thin at other positions because they constantly have to re-draft in the secondary.

 

To be fair to Gute, he seems to have figured that element of talent acquisition out pretty darn well with his drafting and free agent pickups - Josh Jackson was a miss, but Alexander and Stokes most definitely aren't. Amos has been solid and Douglas was a godsend pickup this year after Alexander went down. I wouldn't consider Savage a miss at safety in year 3, either - he has had a disappointing season, but I think that's largely because he showed flashes of becoming a stud free safety and hasn't realized that potential.

 

TT at the end of his run did indeed have some horrid drafts that included DBs picked high that did start a cycle of chasing for starters that actually improved the defense at those positions.

[Joseph Zarr]

One word for this article: FEELS

 

https://www.theringer.com/nfl-playoffs/2022/1/20/22891983/rasul-douglas-green-bay-packers-nfl-journey

 

Gray remembers the first time Douglas asked to watch film together: “Hey, Coach, do you have any extra time?” Recalling this moment, Gray begins to cry. He pauses, gathering himself. “I think when you give him time, and you watch film, that’s precious,” Gray says. It’s rare for players to reach out like that, Gray says—to be willing to seek out help, to learn.

 

May we witness Rasul further solidify a newly growing Packers Legacy and go on a Post-Season run of Al Harris, Charles Woodson, Nick Collins, Tramon Williams and Sam Shields proportions! You just have to root for a redemption story this pure.

 

When Douglas puts on his Packers jersey, he feels something change in his body. Something becomes … different. He can’t quite explain what it’s like—some combination of fire and tingling. Anything that’s bothering him washes away. “Every time I play at Lambeau I feel like I get superpowers,” Douglas says. “It just feels like my heart beats different.”

 

Let's Go, Baby!

[adambr2]

All the feel good articles, all the hoopla, and here we are again: going home before the Super Bowl.

 

Always the bridesmaid, never the bride.

[SomewhereInTime]

All the feel good articles, all the hoopla, and here we are again: going home before the Super Bowl.

 

Always the bridesmaid, never the bride.

 

Not even the bridesmaid this year. Even if they would have squeaked out a win, they're losing to TB or LA next week. This is a very poorly coached team and the entire staff should be fired.

[adambr2]

I also think they got too cute with Bahk. They thought they could get by without him and wanted to protect him for the next round, when the reality is that he should have been out there tonight if possible at all.

 

They got burned by Billy Turner in the playoffs last year and inexplicably went back to the well again.

 

From the moment I heard Turner announced as the starting LG I no longer felt good. Just a terribly coached game by MLF.