2021-10-11 (NLDS Game #3): Brewers (Peralta) at Braves (Anderson) [Brewers lose, 3-0]

[yourout]

We're done. CC has done a lot for this team but he likely just cost them this series.

 

No. The absolute inability to score runs will be the reason why this series is over for all intents and purposes.

 

+1......and very predictable at that.

[Lostpawn]

9 outs to get 3 runs against the Braves pen. Go do this, Crew. You got it.

[willie key]

Atta boy, Strickland. Rest of the bullpen needs to keep doing its job. I think they’re up to the task.

 

Really underrated signing this season. Strickland has been a stud since they first grabbed him off the scrap heap.

 

 

Hes been great. I would have made him the 8th inning guy if we ever had a lead but thats out the window

[Nola Beery]

I’m as disappointed as anyone right now, but the offense’s inability to do much of anything this series makes it hard to be too overly upset if they lose. Asking a pitching staff to work on razor thin margins where you basically can’t give up a run in order to have a chance to win doesn’t leave much hope.

 

That's true. One can be sad without being "disappointed."

Good pitching without a consistently solid batting order got us through the season. But when you play the big guys in the playoffs, you can't expect to win without somebody hitting. There are still 9 outs today and a game tomorrow, but we've got to score

[KeithStone53151]

Nice to see the Braves poor defensive outfield hurt them. Whew we'll take that one...

[Nola Beery]

 

It's called monday morning quarterbacking. If Vogel slaps one down the line and we score 2, and Houser pitches effectively...then CC is a genius. That outcome was probably more likely than the outcome that happened. That'd be like, why didn't Kershaw just walk Woodruff in the playoffs instead of pitching to him and allowing a hr. CC played the odds and lost, but his decision-making was correct in this case.

 

Monday morning quarterbacking? Before that inning started you were already pining for Counsell to remove Peralta. Of course you're going to defend it regardless of how poorly it worked out because you didn't want Atlanta getting more looks at him. That's despite the fact he's had no trouble either this year or in his entire career the 3rd time through. It's also despite the fact that Atlanta wasn't exactly haven't much success against him. And it also ignores the fact that the alternatives to giving Atlanta repeat looks against Peralta were sending in guys the Braves had already seen this series.

 

Some of us expressed not wanting Peralta to be pulled early BEFORE that situation even came up. Some of us look awfully correct right now. You look awfully incorrect right now so you call it MMQB'ing. Because it's a convenient deflection.

^^THIS^^

[HarveysWBs]

There’s a break. Nice to see you ball a little, Escobar

[agingbrew]

ok, let's string together a couple more hits!

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

OK .. good start. Lets at least make this thing interesting now.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

 

Let's all agree this was an act of despiration and was the wrong move. If you set-up your team as pitching and defense this was the worst possible move to make.

 

Exactly how I felt the second he was yanked. I totally get that move in the 7th or later even with a good pitch count. After ATL has batted 4 frames? No, it's ridiculous. He's less than half way through the game! He got too cute and was burned.

 

This offense is making it look pretty irrelevant though.

 

And I agree with the other poster who said "you knew this was coming for a month." I think a lot of us did, but talked ourselves into the "their foot's off the gas" thing. I know the games were meaningless, but there was trouble in the air watching this team for the final few weeks.

[KeithStone53151]

I'm a bit surprised Matzek keeps attacking with the count in his favor so heavily...

[Cool Hand Lucroy]

I don't think anyone would blame Counsell if Peralta gave up a 3-run homer in the 5th. He was dealing. Yes a few would, but that bringing him back out was far more understandable than what he did, imo.

 

Keeping him in gets you, at best a chance to remain in a 50-50 game after 5. That is the ceiling of that decision. 50-50. PHing increases your win probability bc it makes you more likely to score and the drop from Freddy to Hauser isn't that big.

 

You can keep yourself from going broke by playing defense in poker, but at some point you have to take on downside risk to walk away with profit.

[Lostpawn]

I've probably seen at least a couple hundred Urias at bats this season. I continue to expect him to fall over backward before every pitch. I know he does it for a reason, but that is a Julio Franco-esque hitch in that swing.

[KeithStone53151]

Oh come on.....i really thought we had a run there.....

[True Blue Brew Crew]

I think letting Garcia walk after the season just became a much easier decision. This team desperately lacks a guy that can rack up base hits. Sure a lineup with its highest batting average topping out in the mid .270's isn't necessarily reflective of its ability to score runs if the batters can slug and draw walks. But it would be nice to at least have one friggin' bat that you have hope for getting a base hit when runners are on base. It's called balance.

[Pugger]

I am just dumbfounded that runs are at such a premium they would pull a dealing starter after 4 but won't sit Yelich against a lefty.

 

Yelich went 1-3 with a BB on Sunday. The team had 6 hits total. He wasn't the problem.

 

There's no way around the reality that Yelich is a major problem on this team as constructed and as it looks now, will continue to be one. We have a bad slap singles hitter making 30 million a year. If he had regressed to Marlins level, we'd probably be OK and at least a semi-watchable offense.

 

Yelich isn't the sole offensive issue with this club.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

I don't think anyone would blame Counsell if Peralta gave up a 3-run homer in the 5th. He was dealing. Yes a few would, but that bringing him back out was far more understandable than what he did, imo.

 

Keeping him in gets you, at best a chance to remain in a 50-50 game after 5.

 

What's the win probability after the next guy in immediately gives up a 3 run bomb?

 

Can't believe there's a single person defending that move. I really can't. The Braves were not into the 5th inning. The 5th.

[FVBrewerFan]

The way this team is built, they need to score something like 8 runs to have a good chance of winning a best-of-five. I always thought you could win two games with 2 runs. The pitching is that good. But you still needed that one game where the offense got 4.

 

Maybe it'll be today. If not, there is a tomorrow. At least there's that.

 

Yea, I'm not going to deny reality. You need to score more than zero runs to win a game. That said, the Big 3 have not been dominant down the stretch. It's been Burnes, and that's it. Brewers formula could have worked with three dominating starters, winning the best of 5/7 winning enough games 1-0 or 2-1 . For example, if Woody had a clean sheet going int the 8th or 9th, that game may have played out differently. It's not fair to expect that from him, or anyone, but realistically that was/is the only way they win any of these playoff series Just flat-out dominant pitching.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Yelich isn't the sole offensive issue with this club.

 

Who said he was? He's the biggest one. And his contract prevents solving other ones.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

I think letting Garcia walk after the season just became a much easier decision. This team desperately lacks a guy that can rack up base hits. Sure a lineup with its highest batting average topping out in the mid .270's isn't necessarily reflective of its ability to score runs if the batters can slug and draw walks. But it would be nice to at least have one friggin' bat that you have hope for getting a base hit when runners are on base. It's called balance.

 

I think Urias and Adames have that type of ability, but they need to decide whether they are power guys or OBP guys. By all appearances, they want to be power guys, at least right now.

[owbc]

I think letting Garcia walk after the season just became a much easier decision. This team desperately lacks a guy that can rack up base hits. Sure a lineup with its highest batting average topping out in the mid .270's isn't necessarily reflective of its ability to score runs if the batters can slug and draw walks. But it would be nice to at least have one friggin' bat that you have hope for getting a base hit when runners are on base. It's called balance.

 

.275 is a pretty good batting average these days.

 

This team has two guys with an OPS over .800 and zero with an OPS over .900. Zero elite hitters of any kind. They are depending on a bunch of .700-something OPS guys to come up with crucial hits against a quality postseason opponent.

[Lostpawn]

Can we all be thankful that it's not JBJ at the plate right now?

[tmwiese55]

I'd totally agree it was a desperate move. I just don't think he's inherently wrong to be desperate in the situation the offense has put him. And, he has a good guy in Houser there to cover 2-3 innings.

 

I did forget one clearly dumb thing in that inning. Omar not moving to 3rd during the run down. That could've been a killer if Wong got a hit. As a slow runner it mattered to get to 3rd there.

[KeithStone53151]

Matzek is really struggling with his release point, but this still isn't looking great obviously

[HarveysWBs]

I think letting Garcia walk after the season just became a much easier decision. This team desperately lacks a guy that can rack up base hits. Sure a lineup with its highest batting average topping out in the mid .270's isn't necessarily reflective of its ability to score runs if the batters can slug and draw walks. But it would be nice to at least have one friggin' bat that you have hope for getting a base hit when runners are on base. It's called balance.

 

.275 is a pretty good batting average these days.

 

This team has two guys with an OPS over .800 and zero with an OPS over .900. Zero elite hitters of any kind. They are depending on a bunch of .700-something OPS guys to come up with crucial hits against a quality postseason opponent.

Again, not that I think now is the best time for this discussion, but from a roster construction standpoint, if you can’t have it all (and the Brewers can’t, because it’s an unfair game), it’s a lot more plausible expecting to catch postseason lightning in a bottle with average hitters than average pitchers. It’s not working out so far, but I get why the team is constructed as is.