2021-10-11 (NLDS Game #3): Brewers (Peralta) at Braves (Anderson) [Brewers lose, 3-0]

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

I am just dumbfounded that runs are at such a premium they would pull a dealing starter after 4 but won't sit Yelich against a lefty.

 

Yelich went 1-3 with a BB on Sunday. The team had 6 hits total. He wasn't the problem.

 

There's no way around the reality that Yelich is a major problem on this team as constructed and as it looks now, will continue to be one. We have a bad slap singles hitter making 30 million a year. If he had regressed to Marlins level, we'd probably be OK and at least a semi-watchable offense.

 

That's really a completely different argument.

[Cool Hand Lucroy]

Made 'em work there, didn't they?

 

Ouch.

[KeithStone53151]

The offense sucked most of the year. It’s no surprise it sucks during the playoffs

Except for a couple of games against the Cubs, the offense has been routinely weak.

What's the point of arguing about who pitches tomorrow, when nobody is going to score?

Overcoming a 1-run lead is a big ask for this team. Overcoming a 3-run lead in the playoffs looks like trying to climb Denali in flip-flops. Misery.

 

And Yelich is back to taking strikes again. MISERY I tell you!

 

What's the point of coming to a Brewers forum to cry and complain? I can send you a box of tissues if needed...

 

The negativity is getting ridiculous. It's one thing to question and disagree with a decision...it's quite another to read the 70th post about how horrible the offense is. Just turn it off if you can't stand to watch it

[tmwiese55]

Something that will be overlooked here is that if Urias moved up on the wild pitch like he probably should've. Then assuming Omar's bat does the same, none of this happens. Just a horrible luck of bad sequences/coincidences in a row. Yet everyone will simplify to act like the manager is a moron.

[IntentionalHBP]

I feel like Yelich constantly has two strikes on him

[Junkball Jim]

Exactly!

[yourout]

Has a team ever been shutout 3 times in 4 games in a playoff series?

This group is very capable of doing it.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

I am just dumbfounded that runs are at such a premium they would pull a dealing starter after 4 but won't sit Yelich against a lefty.

 

Yelich went 1-3 with a BB on Sunday. The team had 6 hits total. He wasn't the problem.

 

They didn't play Sunday but point taken, you like how the offense is run, I get it.

 

Saturday.

 

And no, where in the heck do you see me defending the offense there? I said Yelich wasn't the problem in the 3-0 loss, and he wasn't.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Something that will be overlooked here is that if Urias moved up on the wild pitch like he probably should've. Then assuming Omar's bat does the same, none of this happens. Just a horrible luck of bad sequences/coincidences in a row. Yet everyone will simplify to act like the manager is a moron.

 

I'm on board with our players and manager both being morons if that helps.

[adambr2]

I am just dumbfounded that runs are at such a premium they would pull a dealing starter after 4 but won't sit Yelich against a lefty.

 

Yelich went 1-3 with a BB on Sunday. The team had 6 hits total. He wasn't the problem.

 

There's no way around the reality that Yelich is a major problem on this team as constructed and as it looks now, will continue to be one. We have a bad slap singles hitter making 30 million a year. If he had regressed to Marlins level, we'd probably be OK and at least a semi-watchable offense.

 

Yeah ...if we had expected to be pleased with Yelich for 1 for 3 with a single and a BB outings, we sure as hell wouldn't have paid him $200M.

 

It's a bit troubling that Yelich has gotten so bad where those days from him can even be referred to as "not the problem". He's fallen so far.

[timpep]

The offense sucked most of the year. It’s no surprise it sucks during the playoffs

Except for a couple of games against the Cubs, the offense has been routinely weak.

What's the point of arguing about who pitches tomorrow, when nobody is going to score?

Overcoming a 1-run lead is a big ask for this team. Overcoming a 3-run lead in the playoffs looks like trying to climb Denali in flip-flops. Misery.

 

And Yelich is back to taking strikes again. MISERY I tell you!

 

What's the point of coming to a Brewers forum to cry and complain? I can send you a box of tissues if needed...

 

The negativity is getting ridiculous. It's one thing to question and disagree with a decision...it's quite another to read the 70th post about how horrible the offense is. Just turn it off if you can't stand to watch it

 

Alternately, what's the point of coming to a Brewers forum to complain about people complaining. I can send you a box of tissues if needed. The attacking of other fans is getting ridiculous.

[KeithStone53151]

Something that will be overlooked here is that if Urias moved up on the wild pitch like he probably should've. Then assuming Omar's bat does the same, none of this happens. Just a horrible luck of bad sequences/coincidences in a row. Yet everyone will simplify to act like the manager is a moron.

 

It's called monday morning quarterbacking. If Vogel slaps one down the line and we score 2, and Houser pitches effectively...then CC is a genius. That outcome was probably more likely than the outcome that happened. That'd be like, why didn't Kershaw just walk Woodruff in the playoffs instead of pitching to him and allowing a hr. CC played the odds and lost, but his decision-making was correct in this case.

[Cool Hand Lucroy]

Something that will be overlooked here is that if Urias moved up on the wild pitch like he probably should've. Then assuming Omar's bat does the same, none of this happens. Just a horrible luck of bad sequences/coincidences in a row. Yet everyone will simplify to act like the manager is a moron.

 

Yup. Tiny random things don't go your way, and here we are.

 

And Pederson hit a pitcher's pitch. The Brewers offense has missed a lot of...not pitcher's pitches.

[MrTPlush]

Something that will be overlooked here is that if Urias moved up on the wild pitch like he probably should've. Then assuming Omar's bat does the same, none of this happens. Just a horrible luck of bad sequences/coincidences in a row. Yet everyone will simplify to act like the manager is a moron.

 

I mean most players probably aren’t advancing there…you are kinda simplifying him going or not going there.

[True Blue Brew Crew]

Would any of you have agreed with Counsell had that been Burnes or Woodruff? Because Freddy has been battling them statistically all year. And he's been better than both of them the 3rd time through the order. The only reason anyone thinks that decision was acceptable is because so many still can't grasp how good Peralta has become. It's indefensible and likely will go down as the moment when the season ended.

[roadcrew3]

Pulling Peralta in that spot reeks of a desperation move....if the inept offense can't get a run across with 2nd and 3rd and nobody out, then you at least let Peralta stay in the game to hold the Braves in check to and hope they can get to the Braves pen. Anderson was coming out after 5 regardless.

 

"Desperation" or "aggressive" are interchangeable adjectives used depending on how the move plays out

 

You aren't mistaken though saying the offense is "desperate" for scoring opportunities...and they finally had one

[jason21nl]

The offense sucked most of the year. It’s no surprise it sucks during the playoffs

Except for a couple of games against the Cubs, the offense has been routinely weak.

What's the point of arguing about who pitches tomorrow, when nobody is going to score?

Overcoming a 1-run lead is a big ask for this team. Overcoming a 3-run lead in the playoffs looks like trying to climb Denali in flip-flops. Misery.

 

And Yelich is back to taking strikes again. MISERY I tell you!

 

What's the point of coming to a Brewers forum to cry and complain? I can send you a box of tissues if needed...

 

The negativity is getting ridiculous. It's one thing to question and disagree with a decision...it's quite another to read the 70th post about how horrible the offense is. Just turn it off if you can't stand to watch it

 

 

How about noooooooo. I’ll be a fan how I want to be a fan thank you very much.

[KeithStone53151]

What's the point of coming to a Brewers forum to cry and complain? I can send you a box of tissues if needed...

 

The negativity is getting ridiculous. It's one thing to question and disagree with a decision...it's quite another to read the 70th post about how horrible the offense is. Just turn it off if you can't stand to watch it

 

Alternately, what's the point of coming to a Brewers forum to complain about people complaining. I can send you a box of tissues if needed. The attacking of other fans is getting ridiculous.

 

I came here to talk about the game, not read 70 posts of people whining that we don't score 10 runs a game. Nobody wants to read that crap...

[BruisedCrew]

Has a team ever been shutout 3 times in 4 games in a playoff series?

This group is very capable of doing it.

 

Yes.

[MoreTrife]

Yeah, the attacking of disappointed people is stupid. Nothing wrong with complaining about lackluster results. Certainly shouldn't be happy.

[Jopal78]

I am just dumbfounded that runs are at such a premium they would pull a dealing starter after 4 but won't sit Yelich against a lefty.

 

Yelich went 1-3 with a BB on Sunday. The team had 6 hits total. He wasn't the problem.

 

There's no way around the reality that Yelich is a major problem on this team as constructed and as it looks now, will continue to be one. We have a bad slap singles hitter making 30 million a year. If he had regressed to Marlins level, we'd probably be OK and at least a semi-watchable offense.

 

Hindsight it 20/20 isn’t it? That’s the inherent problem of paying for anticipated performance based on prior production. On the other hand, had they let him walk or traded him and he remained a monster everyone would still call the front office a bunch of idiots.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Would any of you have agreed with Counsell had that been Burnes or Woodruff? Because Freddy has been battling them statistically all year. And he's been better than both of them the 3rd time through the order. The only reason anyone thinks that decision was acceptable is because so many still can't grasp how good Peralta has become. It's indefensible and likely will go down as the moment when the season ended.

 

You aren't arguing with anyone. In fact, I would imagine that most agree with you. Yes, Peralta should have stayed in. Most said that.

[Eye Black]

I’m as disappointed as anyone right now, but the offense’s inability to do much of anything this series makes it hard to be too overly upset if they lose. Asking a pitching staff to work on razor thin margins where you basically can’t give up a run in order to have a chance to win doesn’t leave much hope.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Something that will be overlooked here is that if Urias moved up on the wild pitch like he probably should've. Then assuming Omar's bat does the same, none of this happens. Just a horrible luck of bad sequences/coincidences in a row. Yet everyone will simplify to act like the manager is a moron.

 

It's called monday morning quarterbacking. If Vogel slaps one down the line and we score 2, and Houser pitches effectively...then CC is a genius. That outcome was probably more likely than the outcome that happened. That'd be like, why didn't Kershaw just walk Woodruff in the playoffs instead of pitching to him and allowing a hr. CC played the odds and lost, but his decision-making was correct in this case.

 

There were like 6 posts immediately calling the decision to pull him stupid before it even wen poorly. It was stupid. There is always a decision to be made and you can always call something Monday morning QB-ing. I am pretty sure the vast majority of people leave Freddy in. Sometimes the majority is the majority for a reason. Freddy was on. Of course, again, if we score 0, who cares.

[KeithStone53151]

Would any of you have agreed with Counsell had that been Burnes or Woodruff? Because Freddy has been battling them statistically all year. And he's been better than both of them the 3rd time through the order. The only reason anyone thinks that decision was acceptable is because so many still can't grasp how good Peralta has become. It's indefensible and likely will go down as the moment when the season ended.

 

You aren't arguing with anyone. In fact, I would imagine that most agree with you. Yes, Peralta should have stayed in. Most said that.

 

Even if Peralta pitching is less likely to yield runs against, we had a great scoring opportunity and letting him hit has almost no chance of getting a run in.