2021-10-09 (NLDS Game #2): Braves (Fried) at Brewers (Woodruff) [Brewers lose, 3-0]

[wOOgiE22]

The bats have been struggling since the Indians series. It didn’t help that Wily got hurt and had to sit down most of September. Then Avi started having issues with his back and Rowdy going down as well. Those 3 bats carried us through August. It is not a surprise they are struggling to get back going.

[pacopete4]

Pulling Pina was just a really bad move. It used up both Vogelbach and Taylor, and we didn't have anyone to use in the 9th when we really needed someone with the game on the line.

 

Vogelbach is hard to have on your roster. He can’t run. He doesn’t hit lefties. Back to back games pulled because of these problems.

 

 

Atlanta has a bullpen full of lefties, and a lefty starter that's going to pitch twice, and your 1B is Rowdy Tellez. I have no idea why Vogelbach is on the roster for this series.

 

I’m not sure they have a better choice to be honest. Braun would’ve been lovely.

[rondoman]

18 innings, 24 k’s, 10-61 (.164), 2 runs, 1 HR…at HOME. This offense has been terrible for large chunks of the season and it’s just hard to watch

[yourout]

18 innings, 24 k’s, 10-61 (.164), 2 runs, 1 HR…at HOME. This offense has been terrible for large chunks of the season and it’s just hard to watch

The braves tried to help them out with walking a few guys late in the game.

[sixtolezcano16]

Yep. No way the September swoon carries over to the playoffs. Not really any clutch hitting for this team

in a month.

 

Pitching is good. They had one less hit than the Braves today. One more than the Braves yesterday.

As I mentioned in my second sentence, no clutch hitting. Those last 3 innings showed us what type of hitting the Brewers have and will have the rest of next week. Absolutely no idea of the strike zone and no patience. What a waste of a pitching staff.

[DuWayne Steurer]

 

 

I’m not sure they have a better choice to be honest. Braun would’ve been lovely.

 

 

I hate to say this but...... Reyes has a lot more utility as a late defensive replacement, a PR, he can hit against lefties, if not particularly great. I just think he has more use in a 5 game series than a lefty who can't run, field, or hit against a team stacked with lefty pitching.

[PinaMadness]

The bats have been struggling since the Indians series. It didn’t help that Wily got hurt and had to sit down most of September. Then Avi started having issues with his back and Rowdy going down as well. Those 3 bats carried us through August. It is not a surprise they are struggling to get back going.

 

This picture is becoming the new "sweep suits".

 

[TURBO]

Why was our 3rd string catcher hitting with 2 men on, bottom of the 9th in a playoff game?

[sixtolezcano16]

Why was our 3rd string catcher hitting with 2 men on, bottom of the 9th in a playoff game?

One word “Craig”.

[HarveysWBs]

Why was our 3rd string catcher hitting with 2 men on, bottom of the 9th in a playoff game?

Bc our only other available catcher was a slumping lefty.

[oldguy]

18 innings, 24 k’s, 10-61 (.164), 2 runs, 1 HR…at HOME. This offense has been terrible for large chunks of the season and it’s just hard to watch

 

Bingo....Good thing they have a day off....cuz you know......they need more rest.

[HarveysWBs]

Should the Braves offense be considered terrible for only averaging two runs per game in these playoffs? I’m just wondering how our little rhetorical game is being played here.

[MrTPlush]

Going into Atlanta I feel pretty neutral. Offense has been pretty blah, but the pitching has been great. That pitching advantage is ours pretty much the rest of the way. Braves used up their two star rotation arms. We still have Peralta/Lauer for these road games.

[BuckyBrewer61]

Why was our 3rd string catcher hitting with 2 men on, bottom of the 9th in a playoff game?

 

100% this

[pacopete4]

If they lose game 3, I sure hope Burnes is ready for game 4.

[HarveysWBs]

Going into Atlanta I feel pretty neutral. Offense has been pretty blah, but the pitching has been great. That pitching advantage is ours pretty much the rest of the way. Braves used up their two star rotation arms. We still have Peralta/Lauer for these road games.

I’m going to feel the same pending the results of Monday’s game. That one is going to be really pivotal. I feel very good about being up 2-1, and really pessimistic about being down 1-2. These short series hinge on game three.

[PinaMadness]

Should the Braves offense be considered terrible for only averaging two runs per game in these playoffs? I’m just wondering how our little rhetorical game is being played here.

 

No they shouldn't because since September 14 they are averaging 4.75 runs per game whereas the Brewers are averaging 3.35 runs per game. Hope that helps.

[brewers888]

Pulling Pina was just a really bad move. It used up both Vogelbach and Taylor, and we didn't have anyone to use in the 9th when we really needed someone with the game on the line.

 

Vogelbach is hard to have on your roster. He can’t run. He doesn’t hit lefties. Back to back games pulled because of these problems.

 

 

Atlanta has a bullpen full of lefties, and a lefty starter that's going to pitch twice, and your 1B is Rowdy Tellez. I have no idea why Vogelbach is on the roster for this series.

 

We don't have a right handed alternative so thats why he's on the roster.

[Cool Hand Lucroy]

ZiPS posted its updated game-by-game projections. It has the series as a true toss-up with a 50.2% series win probability for the Braves.

 

I think their model cares more about home field than I do, but that seems about right.

 

The Crew absolutely could lose, but this is the definition of playoff baseball. You get in tough series, and you have to rebound from losses.

 

The "destined to lose" stuff is fine as an exercise in venting or expectation management or whatever, but I think we'd all be better off if we recognized it as serving an emotional purpose rather than in any way reflecting reality (which is fine, of course--playoff baseball is emotional).

[yourout]

Should the Braves offense be considered terrible for only averaging two runs per game in these playoffs? I’m just wondering how our little rhetorical game is being played here.

 

No they shouldn't because since September 14 they are averaging 4.75 runs per game whereas the Brewers are averaging 3.35 runs per game. Hope that helps.

 

I am not hopeful about going anywhere in the playoffs. Even with great pitching they still have to be able to score some runs against good pitching and I have not seen anything that gives me hope they can.

[HarveysWBs]

Should the Braves offense be considered terrible for only averaging two runs per game in these playoffs? I’m just wondering how our little rhetorical game is being played here.

 

No they shouldn't because since September 14 they are averaging 4.75 runs per game whereas the Brewers are averaging 3.35 runs per game. Hope that helps.

The Brewers averaged that with several key pieces missing time, and the last week being played under less than serious conditions, if we’re being specific.

 

However, that isn’t even really my point. The idea that any of it has any bearing on the postseason is understandable, since we have a natural inclination to think things that are going a certain way will continue that way indefinitely, and we also naturally think in terms of certain narrative forms which provide a logical frame for how we receive all subsequent information. Hence, Brewers offense = bad, ergo, Brewers offense will be bad every game from here on out, repeated as nauseam.

 

Baseball doesn’t really work that way, though, and it stubbornly defies our innate desire for narrative-building, especially when you get into scenarios that are defined by both small sample sizes and shifting tactical decisions (expanded rosters, elimination games, etc.). All that is to say that it doesn’t really do much good to be too anxious about past performance at this point, which have almost no bearing on future results. Buy a ticket and enjoy the ride. It’s the playoffs, baby.

[jjgott]

 

Vogelbach is hard to have on your roster. He can’t run. He doesn’t hit lefties. Back to back games pulled because of these problems.

 

 

Atlanta has a bullpen full of lefties, and a lefty starter that's going to pitch twice, and your 1B is Rowdy Tellez. I have no idea why Vogelbach is on the roster for this series.

 

We don't have a right handed alternative so thats why he's on the roster.

 

This. It's either him or Hiura/Reyes.

[TURBO]

Only a few games left (possibly) to flip that switch...

[DuWayne Steurer]

 

This. It's either him or Hiura/Reyes.

 

I already pointed out the reasons Reyes is a better option than Vogelbach. IMO of course.

[jjgott]

 

This. It's either him or Hiura/Reyes.

 

I already pointed out the reasons Reyes is a better option than Vogelbach. IMO of course.

 

I don't necessarily disagree. He at least offers some flexibility and is a good PR.

 

The way CC used Vogey today was a waste. Even against a lefty he should've been available to take a hack instead Maile. Sending him up as a decoy is pointless.