Ideal lineup?

[ebmackenzie]

Starting lineup in September to take a run at the pennant. Yes Yeli and Cain batting so low in the order would have been unfathomable a few years back, is just the way their OPSs are dictating events now. Am I off?

 

Wong - 2b

Adames - ss

Omar N - c

EEscobar - 3b/1b

Avi - rf

Tellez/Urias - 1b/3b

Yelich - lf

LoCain - cf

 

Bench

Jace

MPina

TyTaylor

JBJ

 

Rotation

Woody

CBurnes

FPeralta

Lauer

BAnderson

Houser (to pen soon enough)

 

Pen

Hader

DevWill

Boxbrgr

Suter

Curtiss

DNorris

HStrickland

 

Shuttle if necessary

Cousins

Gustave

MSanchez

AAshby

APerdomo

Maile

Reyes

TShaw

Voglbch

[pacopete4]

Am I off? Yes, you’re off. Yelich isn’t moving to the 7-hole.

[Outlander]

Well the ideal lineup and what will be put out there are often times two different things.

[umphrey]

This version of Yelich, which is hopefully his floor, is a great 2 or maybe even 1 hitter due to OBP and base running

[TURBO]

Am I off? Yes, you’re off. Yelich isn’t moving to the 7-hole.

 

 

He said "is this the ideal line-up.?"

 

In the here and now, I think that is pretty close to the ideal line-up.

 

Can Yelich turn things around? I sure hope so, but there aren't many signs saying that is going to happen.

 

I think Yelich should be dropped in the line-up, but that might be another different conversation all together.

[bork]

You could also make the case that Yelich should be at the top of the order. Despite his lack of slugging, he is leading the team in OBP.

[JohnBriggs12]

There is not one ideal lineup. It varies by who is hot and who is not. You can't get out of a slump sitting for long periods so the manager just has to gauge things. Counsell is generally pretty good at it.

[BruisedCrew]

This version of Yelich, which is hopefully his floor, is a great 2 or maybe even 1 hitter due to OBP and base running

 

I agree with this. Yelich batting 7th takes away his biggest value.

 

It isn’t ideal to have two LH at 1-2, but Wong and Yelich are not completely neutered by LHP.

 

The way they are hitting now, I think I would put Yelich 1st and Wong 2nd.

 

I would also move Narvaez down further. He hasn’t been hitting that great lately and he is by far the slowest guy in the lineup.

 

I propose:

 

Yelich

Wong

Adames

Escobar

Garicia

Tellez/Urias

Cain

Narvaez (second cleanup hitter)

Pitcher

 

Actually, in a lineup with no superstar hot hitters and no complete black holes, the batting order becomes relatively unimportant. Tinker with it to reflect who is hot, but don’t overthink it.

[markedman5]

"Simulation studies have repeatedly shown that the order in which players bat in the lineup has minimal impact on the team’s runs scored"

 

Bill James

 

Fans(for whatever reason) love to spend time thinking about things that don't really matter.

[pacopete4]

Am I off? Yes, you’re off. Yelich isn’t moving to the 7-hole.

 

 

He said "is this the ideal line-up.?"

 

In the here and now, I think that is pretty close to the ideal line-up.

 

Can Yelich turn things around? I sure hope so, but there aren't many signs saying that is going to happen.

 

I think Yelich should be dropped in the line-up, but that might be another different conversation all together.

 

The guy leading our team in OBP hitting 7th? I don’t think even that part is “ideal”. It’s what fans do right now to make a point that Yelich hasn’t lived up to the high standards he set.

[FVBrewerFan]

Ideal lineup vs LH starter is different than RH starter, always start there. Ideally, Yelich would be moved down vs LHP, Cain would be moved up. Just 2 examples.

[thebruce44]

"Simulation studies have repeatedly shown that the order in which players bat in the lineup has minimal impact on the team’s runs scored"

 

Bill James

 

Fans(for whatever reason) love to spend time thinking about things that don't really matter.

 

Do you have the context for this quote? Because the first spot in the order is expected to have roughly 120 more PAs than the 9th spot. I would think that a high OBP guy at the top of the order vs at the end could make a serious difference in terms of runs scored over the course of the season based on the PAs alone.