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[BruisedCrew]

The downside of having 3 starters go to the All Star Game.

 

I guess we’ll find out in September if this long game strategy with the starting pitchers pays off. Hopefully Mahle will hand the Brewers a couple of gift runs like he did last week because the Brewers haven’t shown that they can hit him.

 

It also looks like there is a good possibility of rain delays or a rainout tonight.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

The downside of having 3 starters go to the All Star Game.

 

I guess we’ll find out in September if this long game strategy with the starting pitchers pays off. Hopefully Mahle will hand the Brewers a couple of gift runs like he did last week because the Brewers haven’t shown that they can hit him.

 

I don't know if throwing a guy with a 3.76 ERA is really a downside, though. Despite his rough-ish start last week against the Reds, Houser has been very good this year for the most part.

 

They theoretically could have pushed Woodruff to tonight on 5-days rest, but that would likely move Burnes and Peralta up as well. This way Peralta doesn't need to see the Reds for the 27th time this year.

[timpep]

The downside of having 3 starters go to the All Star Game.

 

I guess we’ll find out in September if this long game strategy with the starting pitchers pays off. Hopefully Mahle will hand the Brewers a couple of gift runs like he did last week because the Brewers haven’t shown that they can hit him.

 

I don't know if throwing a guy with a 3.76 ERA is really a downside, though. Despite his rough-ish start last week against the Reds, Houser has been very good this year for the most part.

 

They theoretically could have pushed Woodruff to tonight on 5-days rest, but that would likely move Burnes and Peralta up as well. This way Peralta doesn't need to see the Reds for the 27th time this year.

 

3.76 ERA would have felt like the ace on most of the Brewers teams I've watched during my life, however he's pretty clearly not among our best 3, so while a 3.76 ERA isn't terrible it's obviously a downside compared to Woodruff, Burnes or Peralta.

 

After today Houser and Peralta will have both faced the Reds 4 times.

[BruisedCrew]

The downside of having 3 starters go to the All Star Game.

 

I guess we’ll find out in September if this long game strategy with the starting pitchers pays off. Hopefully Mahle will hand the Brewers a couple of gift runs like he did last week because the Brewers haven’t shown that they can hit him.

 

I don't know if throwing a guy with a 3.76 ERA is really a downside, though. Despite his rough-ish start last week against the Reds, Houser has been very good this year for the most part.

 

They theoretically could have pushed Woodruff to tonight on 5-days rest, but that would likely move Burnes and Peralta up as well. This way Peralta doesn't need to see the Reds for the 27th time this year.

 

Houser has not been effective against the Reds in his 3 previous starts this year with 10 runs allowed (7 earned) in just 13.2 IP. He has allowed 15 hits, 11 walks, and a HBP in those 13.2 innings, giving the Reds an OBP of a little over .400 against him. I would be going out of my way not to give the Reds offense another crack at him.

 

We have to hope that Houser can keep the Brewers in the game for 5 innings and that the offense and bullpen can bring home a win. I wouldn’t be shocked to see Lauer in the game early unless Counsell plans to start him this weekend.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

The downside of having 3 starters go to the All Star Game.

 

I guess we’ll find out in September if this long game strategy with the starting pitchers pays off. Hopefully Mahle will hand the Brewers a couple of gift runs like he did last week because the Brewers haven’t shown that they can hit him.

 

I don't know if throwing a guy with a 3.76 ERA is really a downside, though. Despite his rough-ish start last week against the Reds, Houser has been very good this year for the most part.

 

They theoretically could have pushed Woodruff to tonight on 5-days rest, but that would likely move Burnes and Peralta up as well. This way Peralta doesn't need to see the Reds for the 27th time this year.

 

3.76 ERA would have felt like the ace on most of the Brewers teams I've watched during my life, however he's pretty clearly not among our best 3, so while a 3.76 ERA isn't terrible it's obviously a downside compared to Woodruff, Burnes or Peralta.

 

After today Houser and Peralta will have both faced the Reds 4 times.

 

I think it's pretty clear that the Brewers are not THAT concerned with specific matchups quite yet. Certainly a strategy that can be argued, but it is what it is. I had an inkling that they'd go with either Houser, Lauer or Anderson on Friday before going with two of their big 3 over the weekend, simply because the lower 3 have had the longest layoff with Burnes getting 2 innings in the AS game.

[MrTPlush]

The downside of having 3 starters go to the All Star Game.

 

Sir, Brandon Woodruff didn't even pitch. Freddy Peralta threw 12 pitches, something he would have done between starts anyway.

 

Not sure this has much of anything to do with their appearance at the AS Game.

[timpep]

 

I think it's pretty clear that the Brewers are not THAT concerned with specific matchups quite yet. Certainly a strategy that can be argued, but it is what it is. I had an inkling that they'd go with either Houser, Lauer or Anderson on Friday before going with two of their big 3 over the weekend, simply because the lower 3 have had the longest layoff with Burnes getting 2 innings in the AS game.

 

I'm not concerned about individual matchups either. You just seemed to imply there wasn't a downside to starting Houser over the "big 3" when he's clearly not on their level. I'm not questioning the strategy just pointing out that your optimism was a bit out of control.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

 

I think it's pretty clear that the Brewers are not THAT concerned with specific matchups quite yet. Certainly a strategy that can be argued, but it is what it is. I had an inkling that they'd go with either Houser, Lauer or Anderson on Friday before going with two of their big 3 over the weekend, simply because the lower 3 have had the longest layoff with Burnes getting 2 innings in the AS game.

 

I'm not concerned about individual matchups either. You just seemed to imply there wasn't a downside to starting Houser over the "big 3" when he's clearly not on their level. I'm not questioning the strategy just pointing out that your optimism was a bit out of control.

 

I do tend to answer pessimism with over-the-top optimism at times. It is definitely one of my faults, and probably defining traits as a poster here.

 

That said, I have a little more confidence in Houser than in Lauer or Anderson to keep the game tonight in check tonight. He is a solid MLB starter. Like you mentioned, though, if the Brewers bats don't show up, it isn't likely to matter a whole lot.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Brewers have now announced that Woodruff is starting on Saturday, and Burnes Sunday.

[KeithStone53151]

I'm kinda good with that. Would have liked to see all 3 start this weekend but I'm sure they have their reasons. If any of the big 3 are on an innings limit or even a soft limit, it's probably Peralta for many reasons.

[Pugger]

The downside of having 3 starters go to the All Star Game.

 

I guess we’ll find out in September if this long game strategy with the starting pitchers pays off. Hopefully Mahle will hand the Brewers a couple of gift runs like he did last week because the Brewers haven’t shown that they can hit him.

 

It also looks like there is a good possibility of rain delays or a rainout tonight.

 

Woody didn't pitch, Burnes pitched in 2 innings and Freddy one great inning so I don't think any of them will have to be treated with kid gloves in this rotation.

[BruisedCrew]

The downside of having 3 starters go to the All Star Game.

 

I guess we’ll find out in September if this long game strategy with the starting pitchers pays off. Hopefully Mahle will hand the Brewers a couple of gift runs like he did last week because the Brewers haven’t shown that they can hit him.

 

It also looks like there is a good possibility of rain delays or a rainout tonight.

 

Woody didn't pitch, Burnes pitched in 2 innings and Freddy one great inning so I don't think any of them will have to be treated with kid gloves in this rotation.

 

I realize how much the Brewers starters did or didn’t pitch in the All Star Game, and that pitchers typically throw in between starts. That’s why I was hoping that they would take their best shot in this series against their closest challenger who has already won 6 of the last 7 from them. But, it looks like Counsell is giving them extra days to account for their ASG travels and experience. Burnes will have 10 days in between starts with just 2 ASG innings in between, and I don’t think pitching Woodruff again on 4 days rest would have been unreasonable, considering that he probably won’t be starting again until next weekend against the White Sox.

 

Starting pitching is the Brewers biggest strength and they haven’t taken maximum advantage of that against the Reds so far this season. The one explanation for starting Houser tonight is that Counsell anticipates heavy rain tonight and doesn’t want to risk losing one of his top starters to a game that is burdened with long rain delays.

[BruisedCrew]

The downside of having 3 starters go to the All Star Game.

 

Sir, Brandon Woodruff didn't even pitch. Freddy Peralta threw 12 pitches, something he would have done between starts anyway.

 

Not sure this has much of anything to do with their appearance at the AS Game.

 

Sir, I know how much the pitchers were used in the ASG. Do you think Burnes would be pitching on Sunday instead of today if not for his ASG experience? Pitchers going with 4 days in between starts is pretty much the norm for most teams these days, and the 4 day ASG break gives everyone that much time.

[bork]

With the days off this month, they don't need a 6th starter until August. Does Lauer go to the pen, even though he's been pitching well lately? Or Anderson, since he has only thrown 4 innings since he came back from the DL? Or do they give everyone extra rest?

[KeithStone53151]

I'm expecting a bit of extra rest for everyone over the next couple weeks. Some of our lower tier starters will probably be ready for long relief roles. So if Houser doesn't look super sharp we might pull him in the 2nd or 3rd inning even if he hasn't given up a ton of runs and have Lauer/Anderson ready to jump in. At least I like to assume the Brewers would think that way.

[rickh150]

Peralta getting extra rest….

https://www.mlb.com/brewers/news/milwaukee-brewers-aiming-to-keep-pitchers-rested

[Eye Black]

The Brewers have listed Eric Lauer and Brett Anderson as their starters versus the Royals on Tuesday and Wednesday this week.

[BruisedCrew]

Now that the Brewers have announced they are giving Peralta a break, I wonder if their original plan was to pitch Peralta on Friday against the Reds, followed by Woodruff and Burnes. That would have been the normal 6 days after Peralta’s previous start. Then they could have skipped his turn with the off days and brought him back after the White Sox series. But, they adjusted that after he was made a late selection for the ASG.

[Eye Black]

Barring injuries it feels like they’ll go through the rotation twice more before we see Peralta start again. I’d guess the White Sox series next weekend will be a repeat of this weekend (Houser on Friday, Woodruff on Saturday, Burnes on Sunday). Then with the off days they could use Lauer and Anderson against the Pirates to get back to Houser/Woodruff/Burnes once again on 5 days of rest. My guess is Peralta’s next start is Sunday, August 1st against the Braves.

[DHonks]

Barring injuries it feels like they’ll go through the rotation twice more before we see Peralta start again. I’d guess the White Sox series next weekend will be a repeat of this weekend (Houser on Friday, Woodruff on Saturday, Burnes on Sunday). Then with the off days they could use Lauer and Anderson against the Pirates to get back to Houser/Woodruff/Burnes once again on 5 days of rest. My guess is Peralta’s next start is Sunday, August 1st against the Braves.

 

The beat reporters have been saying since Friday that we’re seeing Peralta against ChiSox

 

I wouldn’t be shocked to see him in the pen for an inning today.

[Eye Black]

The beat reporters have been saying since Friday that we’re seeing Peralta against ChiSox

 

I wouldn’t be shocked to see him in the pen for an inning today.

Ahh, I missed that report… nothing to see here then folks!

[BruisedCrew]

Giving a healthy pitcher 3 weeks in between starts would seem to be likely to do more harm from rust than good from rest

[pacopete4]

Running that same pitcher into the ground by the end of August is also not a good plan.

[BruisedCrew]

Running that same pitcher into the ground by the end of August is also not a good plan.

 

Nobody is recommending running him into the ground.

[pacopete4]

Running that same pitcher into the ground by the end of August is also not a good plan.

 

Nobody is recommending running him into the ground.

 

You can’t have it both ways. And the Brewers continue to prove your thoughts wrong as to how they are managing their arms. Take a break for a bit and enjoy the show.